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Title: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: rollntider on February 21, 2017, 12:38:39 AM
Raiders have some investors to move to Vegas. Would be interesting to see if this happens. Not sure the NFL likes the idea of a team in LV.


http://oak.247sports.com/Bolt/Vegas-official-confirms-Raiders-have-2-stadium-investors-ready-51397664

Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: rollntider on March 21, 2017, 10:18:04 PM
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/844242271969062912
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on April 14, 2017, 04:36:44 PM
FWIW I hate it. When the Oilers left, it was extremely bitter, all because of Butt Adams, so it really didn't hurt too much losing this team. Doesn't seem as though there's as much animosity surrounding the Raiders (at least not until the move was announced) but I could be wrong as I don't follow it that closely.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on April 28, 2017, 12:01:37 AM
You know, I'm conflicted about Michigan players I really loved watching getting drafted by teams I absolutely despise. Truly happy for Jabrill Peppers and Taco Charlton, but seriously: f*ck Cleveland and f*ck Dallas too.  :P

...and lol at the Bears for trading away four picks to move up one spot to draft a QB that would've been there anyway (and you morons left Deshaun Watson on the board). Congrats on sucking for the next few years, Chicago.

As much as I love the Lions drafting Jarrad Davis (LB is a need), I thought for sure they would've picked up Reuben Foster instead. Can't believe it.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: thaima1shu on April 28, 2017, 02:23:50 PM
Pretty happy with the trades the Seahawks made. Still tons of talent left on the board and they got great value in their deals. Still a slight bummer to watch 3.5 hours of draft coverage only for them to not take anyone, haha.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on May 26, 2017, 12:59:18 AM
Texans, finally, finally draft a QB early. This is what I hate...when I think back to previous teams, hey, lets go get Fitzpatrick, or lets get Hoyer lets get Weeden and all this rotating in and out bullshit. Pick a fuckin guy, stick him in there and let him learn and allow the team to grow together. Now we had solid prospects entering free agency by the time we fill this hole...wasted years, now we have these guys to develop now that this guy matured...wasted years, oh and now this journeyman here and this one there, jesus fucktards, you had a solid, and I mean solid foundation of young talent with the ability to get more and let them gel, but, all I can say is, Rick Smith. I swear this guy makes Matt millen look almost competent.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on May 30, 2017, 01:18:51 PM
See, unfortunately I jumped off the Bucs bandwagon because of Jameis, otherwise I'd be very excited for Tampa this season.

Instead, I get to look forward to drinking heavily during Jets games.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on July 20, 2017, 10:04:51 AM
https://twitter.com/BradGalli/status/887795747663564805

https://twitter.com/BradGalli/status/887692646973616128

Lions remove Playoff Appearance banners from Ford Field...I'm completely okay with this. I'll be even better with it once they start making the playoffs on a more consistent basis and winning once they get there.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on July 20, 2017, 10:11:20 AM
https://twitter.com/ESPNNFL/status/887699297663365120

Top-selling jersey by state. That Tom Brady guy seems pretty popular...wonder what university he went to?  :P
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: thaima1shu on July 20, 2017, 02:41:29 PM
Love seeing Marshawn all over the west coast. Him in a Raiders jersey is beyond perfect and so damn cool.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on July 20, 2017, 06:04:50 PM
You still in Seattle Thai? I just moved to Washington back in March, living in Everett.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: thaima1shu on July 20, 2017, 06:12:05 PM
Quote from: Bucfever on July 20, 2017, 06:04:50 PM
You still in Seattle Thai? I just moved to Washington back in March, living in Everett.

Oh what, that's awesome! Yeah I'm still in Seattle. What are you doing all the way up here?
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on July 20, 2017, 06:56:56 PM
Moved with the girlfriend. Had to get out of South Carolina, haha. I'm working in the Comcast store in Lynnwood now. Going to the Yanks Ms games on Friday and Saturday. My brother and dad are flying in to go.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on August 06, 2017, 09:25:54 PM
Jay Cutler comes out of retirement to play for the Dolphins...and somehow Colin Kaepernick still doesn't have an NFL job.  ::)

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2725975-fins-overlook-cutlers-sour-past-while-kaepernick-cant-find-path-to-the-future (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2725975-fins-overlook-cutlers-sour-past-while-kaepernick-cant-find-path-to-the-future)

https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/894310230259118080

Sorry, but this has to be a joke...Tim Tebow and Kyle Orton were the other names considered? LOL, the Fins would've been better off signing Randy Orton over Kyle. And Kaepernick is still better than any other name mentioned here.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on August 07, 2017, 12:03:16 AM
I'm out of the loop, what became of Tannehill? Did I know and just forget?
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on August 07, 2017, 01:01:20 AM
Quote from: Crewe on August 07, 2017, 12:03:16 AM
I'm out of the loop, what became of Tannehill? Did I know and just forget?

Think he got hurt the first couple of days of training camp or something...might've been his knee.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on August 07, 2017, 03:12:05 PM
And then lost his job to Cutler, double whammy
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on August 08, 2017, 05:20:28 PM
One of the reasons I can't seem to leave Twitter. :D

https://twitter.com/ESPNNFL/status/894994130367131649
https://twitter.com/BrianManzullo/status/895011154883432448
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on August 09, 2017, 12:40:27 AM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on August 28, 2017, 11:46:31 PM
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/902353429833666565

I have no problem with this, deal needed to be made. Stafford is a top 10 QB in this league.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on August 29, 2017, 01:07:48 AM
I always liked Stafford, kids a gamer
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on September 08, 2017, 01:15:47 PM
I know Brady is Norm's boy and all, being from Michigan, but nobody wants to gloat after the first game of the season aired last night and offered us the Pats getting their asses handed to them by the Chiefs?

Is this Blindsideblitz or not?
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: thaima1shu on September 08, 2017, 05:23:32 PM
I was very, very annoyed watching the leadup to the game with Mark Wahlberg trying hard to read off cue cards and the whole presentation. Then the way the game started, I almost turned it off. Damn glad the rest of the game went so well though. Can't say I saw that coming.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on September 25, 2017, 11:15:43 AM
Over 40 years as a Lions fan, and thought I'd seen just about every which way the team could possibly lose...nope.
https://twitter.com/BradGalli/status/912146310014349313

Utter fucking bullshit...but also:

https://twitter.com/LGhail/status/912053486434553856
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: thaima1shu on September 25, 2017, 12:32:25 PM
Really crappy way to lose. Didn't think that would get overturned.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on September 25, 2017, 06:51:54 PM
Me either. Everyone is discussing the time issue but that flat out looked like six to me
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on October 01, 2017, 12:24:04 PM
Cutty does it.
https://twitter.com/xmasape/status/914486718815928320

WOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
https://twitter.com/espn/status/914520390982148102
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on October 06, 2017, 11:47:07 AM
Lol those shoes!

So what about the Cam flub?
I mean, I don't like the guy, at all and yea he's obviously not so smart but I really don't think he meant it in a hurtful manner although it was certainly condescending.
Oh and turns out, the reporter got called out on some racist tweets of hers which she brushed off in a meaningless apology by saying something like I'm sorry about those comments 4 or 5 years ago.
Can we just do away with both of these people?
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on October 06, 2017, 11:38:28 PM
Quote from: Crewe on October 06, 2017, 11:47:07 AM
Lol those shoes!

So what about the Cam flub?
I mean, I don't like the guy, at all and yea he's obviously not so smart but I really don't think he meant it in a hurtful manner although it was certainly condescending.
Oh and turns out, the reporter got called out on some racist tweets of hers which she brushed off in a meaningless apology by saying something like I'm sorry about those comments 4 or 5 years ago.
Can we just do away with both of these people?

My answer in bold, pretty much. And I love the myopia of some people I ran into.
"Damn, that was some pretty racist shit she said back then."
"That's not the important part, the focus is on what Cam said!"
"Uh...what? We can focus on both."
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on October 28, 2017, 11:10:11 AM
Ah, Suh.

https://twitter.com/SBNationGIF/status/923751166906953734
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on October 29, 2017, 01:12:21 AM
Missed that. Any penalty, ejection?
This will segue into my next thought which is I don't watch a lot of football anymore.
Ive said this numerous times but no-one knows what a penalty is anymore, part of it is the refs because there is no continuity in calls from game to game, week to week. A bigger part of it this stupid rules committee that keeps inflating the rule book with all this technical nonsense and even they don't know what it means, except that whenever its said and done we want points on the board so figure it out.
then you have lapdogs like Mike Piererra (sp?) who, no matter what the hell just happened, he's going to side with the refs, ever single time. And heaven forbid and announcer make an honest comment about what bullshit weve just seen. Id give an eye tooth just once to hear Gruden cut loose on that inept twit, just once.
No matter what game I watch, I know, for a fact, the refs will influence the outcome of that game, its a simple fact of life. I hate it, and I hate the NFL.

that was a long rant, but it only gets worse because I just watched the Tuck Rule 30 for 30.
Im not one to side with Al Davis and his conspiracy theories but it just does seem to fit the agenda in this instance.
Indisputable evidence to overturn the call....where was the evidence to overturn the call?
I mention this because I think the tuck rule was the catalyst for the current state of the NFL. It wasn't the first instance but it was the biggest.
ok, Im done....
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on October 29, 2017, 09:55:07 PM
The caption is hilarious, but seriously, when is Suh going to grow up? I mean, he's been in the league how long and is how old? Shit like this doesn't impress anyone.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on October 30, 2017, 11:55:48 AM
I think by now we can say this is who he is
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on December 04, 2017, 08:47:55 PM
So glad I had other stuff going on yesterday and I didn't waste my time on the Lions imploding against the Ravens.

https://twitter.com/MarktheNomad/status/937686985577304064

I may make this my new avatar here
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on December 18, 2017, 11:10:27 PM
Aww, the Steelers had a potential call not go their way and now everyone's having a field day about it. How cute.

https://twitter.com/drunkgibbons/status/942587584412246021
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on December 19, 2017, 10:10:27 AM
Theres a big to do about the catch. Many people say the catch rule is black and white and that was the point of the rule change.
The refs no longer have to enter judgement on plays like that because the rule is the rule.
What I read is that the process of the catch wasn't complete, i.e., the ball moved after hitting the ground.
I say, he caught the ball, broke the plane. Control was established, hence the lunge towards the goal line.
I have no dog in this fight but seriously, fuck these rules. Catch, two feet down, end of story.
This is exactly why I've distanced myself from the NFL over the last several years.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on December 19, 2017, 11:39:37 AM
I think the call WAS consistent with HOW they've been calling these catches these days. Do I agree with it? No, but it's not unusual or out of the norm for that to be ruled incomplete. Also, I'm all for anything that leads to a Steelers loss.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on December 19, 2017, 01:26:32 PM
I agree, but, just because they are calling it according to the rule doesn't mean it isn't an idiotic rule.
I realize Im refusing to let go to the old ways but it still dilutes my enjoyment of the game.
When I see a fingernail scrape the backside of a QB's helmet get flagged and then see one get slapped across the facemark with no call...well, yea, fuck these guys.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 05, 2018, 11:50:02 AM
Well this sure was a fun read on a Friday morning.  :popcorn:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/hotread180105/beginning-end-new-england-patriots-robert-kraft-tom-brady-bill-belichick-internal-power-struggle

QuoteTHE PATRIOTS ARE in uncharted territory. They haven't just won games and titles. They've won at an unprecedented rate and over an unprecedented span, which makes the feelings of entitlement creeping inside Gillette Stadium unprecedented as well. The Patriots, in the only statement anyone associated with the team would make on the record for this story, responded to specific questions by saying that there are "several inaccuracies and multiple examples given that absolutely did not occur," though they declined to go into detail. But according to interviews with more than a dozen New England staffers, executives, players and league sources with knowledge of the team's inner workings, the three most powerful people in the franchise -- Belichick, Brady and owner Robert Kraft -- have had serious disagreements. They differ on Brady's trainer, body coach and business partner Alex Guerrero; over the team's long-term plans at quarterback; over Belichick's bracing coaching style; and most of all, over who will be the last man standing. Those interviewed describe a palpable sense in the building that this might be the last year together for this group.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on January 05, 2018, 02:56:39 PM
Ill wait for it to unfold with little hope there's any real fire there
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 05, 2018, 07:01:18 PM
Quote from: Crewe on January 05, 2018, 02:56:39 PM
Ill wait for it to unfold with little hope there's any real fire there

Pretty much what I'm thinking. I think they'll ultimately win another SB here but this offseason could be interesting if there really is a bunch of discord.
If a lot of this is true, I'm impressed it took this long...this group has pretty much been together since what, late 2001? In sports that's a lifetime.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on January 05, 2018, 07:05:21 PM
This is the one year I don't think the Patriots have the Super Bowl on lock (maybe I'm being foolish). Eagles probably can't beat them without Wentz, but Minnesota has a brutal defense and can control the clock, they don't make many mistakes, and then obviously the Rams are just a beast. Heck, even the Saints with Alvin Kamara should be able to run right through the Pats non-existent run D.

Ideally, Pittsburgh would lose to Jacksonville that way I can root for Jacksonville or KC against NE. I hate having to root for the Pats everytime they face Pittsburgh in the AFC Championship. Because seriously, screw the Steelers and screw their fans.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on January 06, 2018, 02:52:14 AM
I'd love to see the Vikes win it just because of Case Keenum. The Eagles can't...they just can't...id never hear the end of it. Besides, they have a lock on being the only blemish in the NFC East
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on January 06, 2018, 02:56:23 AM
Quote from: TheNorm on January 05, 2018, 07:01:18 PM
Quote from: Crewe on January 05, 2018, 02:56:39 PM
Ill wait for it to unfold with little hope there's any real fire there

Pretty much what I'm thinking. I think they'll ultimately win another SB here but this offseason could be interesting if there really is a bunch of discord.
If a lot of this is true, I'm impressed it took this long...this group has pretty much been together since what, late 2001? In sports that's a lifetime.

Agreed. But if I'm to play along in the complete unknown, I'd side with Belichick.
Brady is great and all, but no way he even comes close to this type of career without BB, whereas I think BB has proven he can win with almost anyone. Kraft just seems so fraudulent to me, very haughty, never did like him.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on January 06, 2018, 11:22:33 AM
I mean, they went 3-1 with the Garoppolo/Brissett combo last season, and 11-5 with Cassell years ago, so Brady gets them 2-3 extra wins but based on the (admittedly small) sample size, yeah, seems like BB deserves credit
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 06, 2018, 09:00:07 PM
Name drop from the past alert:

If GoChiefs were still here, I think he'd disappear for awhile after today. Nice comeback by the Titans there.

https://twitter.com/NitrogenSports/status/949817796237520896
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on January 06, 2018, 11:29:38 PM
OMG GoChiefs. There's a deep cut.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on January 07, 2018, 01:37:36 AM
Lol oy
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on January 13, 2018, 01:56:32 PM
Te only two teams I want to win are playing each other :-(
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 13, 2018, 09:50:24 PM
https://twitter.com/theplayerthefan/status/952363592548044800
;D
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on January 13, 2018, 10:28:45 PM
Actually, its not.
And not for nothing, but I think its well known Romo wasn't the weak link. And I can think of Hall of Famers who have less playoff wins than him, so, I dont get the joke  :D
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on January 13, 2018, 10:52:54 PM
Cant believe Atlanta's "season on the line" play call. No wonder they cant win.
Titans are equally outmatched with such silly calls.
But, some of the easiest money you can make was betting on this game.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 13, 2018, 11:06:11 PM
Quote from: Crewe on January 13, 2018, 10:52:54 PM
Cant believe Atlanta's "season on the line" play call. No wonder they cant win.
Titans are equally outmatched with such silly calls.
But, some of the easiest money you can make was betting on this game.

Missed the Falcons/Eagles game, and the Titans are just outclassed here...kind of hoping Jacksonville pulls off the upset tomorrow, and I think the Saints do the Vikings.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: rollntider on January 14, 2018, 12:49:17 AM
Quote from: TheNorm on January 13, 2018, 09:50:24 PM
https://twitter.com/theplayerthefan/status/952363592548044800
;D

ouch lol
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on January 14, 2018, 10:32:14 AM
Quote from: Crewe on January 13, 2018, 10:52:54 PM
Cant believe Atlanta's "season on the line" play call. No wonder they cant win.
Titans are equally outmatched with such silly calls.
But, some of the easiest money you can make was betting on this game.

I ranted about this on Facebook. Never have I seen such a mediocre team achieve such success and then, when they do, find the most idiotic ways to blow it.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 14, 2018, 12:27:30 PM
https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/952295678046277633

This reminds me of an article I read a month or two ago...they took this dude's advice for the entire season and bet the exact opposite of what he said. They ended up with a profit.  :D

*EDIT* Found it! Now this may very well be the one and only time I link to a buckeyes blog, but they did good work here. It was a 14% profit. Everyone knows I can't stand the buckeyes, but anyone that works to prove what an idiot Clay Travis is I'll tip my cap to.

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/college-football/2017/12/89067/slay-travis-the-final-tally-following-a-season-of-fading-clay-travis-and-his-cant-miss-picks (https://www.elevenwarriors.com/college-football/2017/12/89067/slay-travis-the-final-tally-following-a-season-of-fading-clay-travis-and-his-cant-miss-picks)
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on January 14, 2018, 01:04:14 PM
Geez, why?
Like I said earlier, there's never been easier money than taking the Pats over the Titans. Unreal.

It's like the joke where a guy says man it's a bad weekend. I lost 6 out of 6 on college football, 8 out of 8 on pro football. His buddy says well there's hockey games tonight and he says yea but I don't know anything about hockey
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on January 14, 2018, 02:04:29 PM
I'm a Yankees fan, and even I hate the Steelers more than I hate the Red Sox.

Watching the Jags go up 21-0, I was like Kylo Ren at the end of Last Jedi. "More! MORE!!!!"
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 14, 2018, 04:17:34 PM
https://twitter.com/wingingitmotown/status/952646461317156864
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on January 14, 2018, 05:38:34 PM
Quote from: TheNorm on January 14, 2018, 04:17:34 PM
https://twitter.com/wingingitmotown/status/952646461317156864

Perfect.

In other news, I've heard Joe Buck call Case Keenum a "franchise QB" and say he's playing "Favre-esque."

Case Keenum. Franchise QB.

Words no longer have meaning in 2018.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 14, 2018, 05:40:30 PM
Jaguars twitter account bringing straight fire.
https://twitter.com/Jaguars/status/952653917241954309
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 14, 2018, 06:05:12 PM
Quote from: Bucfever on January 14, 2018, 05:38:34 PM

Perfect.

In other news, I've heard Joe Buck call Case Keenum a "franchise QB" and say he's playing "Favre-esque."

Case Keenum. Franchise QB.

Words no longer have meaning in 2018.

Right up there with "Blake Bortles drops 45 on Steelers in Pittsburgh, Jaguars advance to AFC Championship Game". Out of all the outlandish shit I've expected to see in 2018 (keep in mind the time we live in now, I can imagine a lot), this is something I didn't expect.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on January 14, 2018, 06:06:15 PM
Truly the darkest timeline.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on January 14, 2018, 06:19:33 PM
Quote from: Bucfever on January 14, 2018, 05:38:34 PM


Perfect.

In other news, I've heard Joe Buck call Case Keenum a "franchise QB" and say he's playing "Favre-esque."

Case Keenum. Franchise QB.

Words no longer have meaning in 2018.

To be fair, it is Joe Buck. Nothing he says should ever matter, beatnik
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on January 14, 2018, 06:24:00 PM
btw, Im soooo glad we have those cutaways to the studio so they can tell me whats coming up at halftime or postgame.
they are going to review the games? No shit?
ive been watching this happen for 40+ years...Im starting to think this will become a thing  :popcorn:
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on January 14, 2018, 08:02:38 PM
Watching in real timed Icant believe the Vikes are so happy, they just lost the game.
1:29 and a timeout for Brees? Down 23-21
Easy peasy.
Lets see..
From NO 20
1d - overthrow
2nd - complete over the middle to NO 43

1d Complete to MN 48 (:55 sec left)

1d incomplete
2d incomplete on flag route...why not run a screen or flare in the flat? they dont need that much
3d incomplete same route same throw
:45 sec
4d Caught by Snead at 33, out of bounds. Game over

:40 sec
1d complete to 30 out of bounds
2d Caught at 25 TO MN with :33 left. Review catch, upheld
3d run for a yard TO MN
4d 29 secs left 43 yard FGA is good. No 24-23

Game.

Thats the thing about Case as much as I like him, he throws it up under pressure. He makes a lot fo good plays in this manner but also some bad ones. All the way back in the Cougar days this was the....case ll Sorry. Couldn't resist.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on January 14, 2018, 08:09:34 PM
WHAT???!!!!!!!!!!!????!!!
Are you SHITTING ME???

I aam speechless.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 14, 2018, 08:14:20 PM
OMG I WAS PULLING FOR THE SAINTS HERE BUT WHAT A FINISH
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 14, 2018, 08:15:41 PM
https://twitter.com/PFTCommenter/status/952709606563893248
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on January 14, 2018, 08:19:55 PM
Quote from: TheNorm on January 14, 2018, 08:15:41 PM
https://twitter.com/PFTCommenter/status/952709606563893248

snicker
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on January 14, 2018, 08:26:46 PM
Wow
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 14, 2018, 08:28:01 PM
Why I don't bet on sports, reason #8675309

https://twitter.com/LastWordOnNFL/status/952711238592749568
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 15, 2018, 01:34:48 PM
This is something I like to see, because we all know with social media people tend to take the opposite route and be threatening assholes. It's still just a game, and Marcus Williams doesn't have the fate of the free world in his hands. Seeing this truly makes me happy.

https://twitter.com/lurie_john/status/952944515291275266
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on January 15, 2018, 07:16:11 PM
Quote from: TheNorm on January 14, 2018, 08:28:01 PM
Why I don't bet on sports, reason #8675309

https://twitter.com/LastWordOnNFL/status/952711238592749568

I always love the people that blame the game...as if they are some sort of human computer than can predict whats supposed to happen. Well, if it wasn't for this or that that was supposed to happen yada yada yada lol
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on January 15, 2018, 07:18:08 PM
Quote from: TheNorm on January 15, 2018, 01:34:48 PM
This is something I like to see, because we all know with social media people tend to take the opposite route and be threatening assholes. It's still just a game, and Marcus Williams doesn't have the fate of the free world in his hands. Seeing this truly makes me happy.

https://twitter.com/lurie_john/status/952944515291275266

its so petulant the way people behave. I remember Matt Schaub and his family getting death threats. For what?
I just cant believe I share the planet with these assholes.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 21, 2018, 02:58:42 PM
Predictions? Mine:
Pats (and the GOAT) 27-17
Eagles 17 - 14 (I'd be fine with both NFC teams losing TBH)
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on January 21, 2018, 03:02:00 PM
I hope the Vikes win although it won't matter since NE beats whoever
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 21, 2018, 05:12:28 PM
https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/955197329438470144
I love Richard Sherman and his insight. I also think offensive players are coddled a bit. However, this take is dumb: that was a clear case of helmet to helmet, and there's a good couple of feet of space between a dude's head and his knees. Last I checked Gronk, like every other human being playing football, has a waist.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on January 21, 2018, 05:32:41 PM
Tell me how well tackling by the waist worked for #43 on the Saints last week.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 21, 2018, 06:45:14 PM
Quote from: Bucfever on January 21, 2018, 05:32:41 PM
Tell me how well tackling by the waist worked for #43 on the Saints last week.

Different situations here. Diggs was still in the air when Williams went for the ill-advised tackle. Gronk had his feet on the ground when he got hit at helmet level. They'll call that all day and odds are his wallet's gonna be a little lighter later this week too.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on January 21, 2018, 09:12:37 PM
I dunno man, I don't really have a problem with this hit. Shoulder in first, not a shoulder to head hit. im not suggesting there wasn't helmet to helmet contact, but I have two problems.
One is, this league already has done everything in its power to favor the offense and its sickening.
The other is, there is zero consistency. None. The announcers can babble all they want about what is and isn't legal, they are nothing more than league puppets.
Until they figure that out, which they won't, it will just have to be understood and accepted that football is a dangerous game and you take risks.
Or, you could just make the defense nothing more than tackling dummies, which they almost are now.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 21, 2018, 09:44:02 PM
I get that, but if as a league you're walking a fine line of letting them play/protect the player, the league needs to be more consistent on protecting the player. Yeah, I get there's risks involved in the game but to me that's a penalty all the time...and they'll call it that way. 
Is the league perfect? No, no one is...but other than adopting college's targeting rule (which is also a joke open to interpretation), I'm really not sure what other solutions they can use.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 21, 2018, 09:45:13 PM
LOL
https://twitter.com/jbillinson/status/955216336782811137
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on January 21, 2018, 11:02:47 PM
Quote from: TheNorm on January 21, 2018, 09:44:02 PM
I get that, but if as a league you're walking a fine line of letting them play/protect the player, the league needs to be more consistent on protecting the player. Yeah, I get there's risks involved in the game but to me that's a penalty all the time...and they'll call it that way
Is the league perfect? No, no one is...but other than adopting college's targeting rule (which is also a joke open to interpretation), I'm really not sure what other solutions they can use.

Thats the problem. And Im not saying helmet to helmet shouldn't be a penalty, but when you continually reduce a defenders ability to defend passes and tackle, it just borders on ridiculous.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 31, 2018, 11:10:29 AM
https://twitter.com/ChrisBurkeNFL/status/958731611075481601

The answer should be neither, and the fact that either one of these two clowns will more than likely get paid more than Matt Stafford is laughable.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: thaima1shu on January 31, 2018, 11:23:42 AM
Just the nature of QB money. It'll always be disproportionate to actual talent or performance. As long as you're above average, you'll pretty much become the highest paid player until the next above average QB is up for a contract.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on January 31, 2018, 11:44:52 AM
Quote from: thaima1shu on January 31, 2018, 11:23:42 AM
Just the nature of QB money. It'll always be disproportionate to actual talent or performance. As long as you're above average, you'll pretty much become the highest paid player until the next above average QB is up for a contract.

i.e. Brock Osweiller
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on February 02, 2018, 09:28:23 PM
So...who you got?

Ultimately I go Patriots here in a tight one, 27-21. That Eagles defense is stout for sure, but the Pats aren't bad on D either and tend to adjust pretty quick to anything the Eagles might do on offense. Sooner or later it'll fall down to the QBs, and they typically fall to their norm. Nick Foles realizing he's Nick Foles won't turn out well for Philadelphia, and I'm okay with that because f*ck Philly and their fanbase.

Besides, do you really want to see this classic BSB emoji made obsolete? Me neither.  :philly:
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on February 03, 2018, 03:42:13 AM
Belichick had two weeks to prepare for a Nick Foles led offense. I dont care how good the Eagles D is, that's Tom Brady on the other side of the ball.

Pats win, unfortunately
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on February 03, 2018, 11:44:12 PM
I'd be okay with this.

https://twitter.com/MarkAgee/status/959884817788682240
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on February 04, 2018, 01:37:54 AM
I really cannot stomach another smug smiling Brady after another win.
However, that vile Philly fan base deserves nothing but grief.
Why is it always the two worst possible choices? I haven't enjoyed a super bowl in years
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: TheNorm on February 04, 2018, 11:05:27 PM
Other than all that catch/no catch BS, I thought it was an awesome game. I also have a buzz and hit a square so there's that too  :woot:

https://twitter.com/sbell021/status/960352028689039360
https://twitter.com/sbell021/status/960348367380533248

...and while I absolutely despise Philly and their fanbase, congrats to Brandon Graham. He played on one of the worst Michigan football teams I've ever seen in my life (Rich Rodriguez, 2008) and still worked his ass off. Props to him, dude deserves it.

May we also never hear of "dilly dilly" ever again.
Title: Re: 2017 Pro Football thread
Post by: Crewe on February 04, 2018, 11:21:36 PM
I m so sick of all these guys saying the catch rules have made things black and white and easier to make the correct call. I see BS every week that deems those rules need to go back to catch, 2 feet down, nothing can be simpler.

I seriously hate the Philly fans more than the Philly players, so im kinda happy for guys like Foles etc.... it is a great story.
its just that fan base man, Jesus how horrible.
But now that I think about it, NE fans aren't a hell of a lot better.

Did Tom Terrific leave the field without congratulating the other side? I dont want to assume...

Btw, hand to God, on that fumble, I was waiting for them to invent or call up some obscure 50 year old rule to give the bad back to NE.