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Video Gaming General / Axis Football
« on: October 25, 2021, 04:45:02 PM »
Just thought I would drop a line about this game.  It's available on PC and console. I play it on the ps5 and it's a lot of fun.  It is graphically not up to Madden standards but its franchise mode is off the charts good.  There are a lot of coaching leagues out there since it allows you to set your team's tendencies by down distance, and any other factor you can think of.  Give it a shot it's a fun ride for 30 bones.

http://axisleague.com/

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https://www.wolverinestudios.com/games/draft-day-sports-college-football

perfect time to join... season 1 is over and heading into season 2.

pick a team from the mac or sunbelt.

Would love to but I don't have a home PC to run the software at the moment. 

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Umm dang, I disappear for a few months, kinda been busy in the healthcare world, would have moved to jump back into the TUFF world.  I wish I could still go back and look at the old articles and history of the league.  Let me know when I could get in if possible.  What game are you using now?

 

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Console Gaming Discussion / Re: PlayStation 5
« on: October 08, 2021, 03:17:12 PM »
So my boss messages me during work on Thursday and says "I can't stop buying PS5s because getting them is so satisfying, but I never play them because I prefer my XBox Series S." He then tells me how he's had 3 so far, and given away two to two other co-workers and, hey, would I like the third one?

And that's how I came to have a PS5 in my house today.

Nice

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Console Gaming Discussion / Re: Madden 22
« on: October 08, 2021, 03:15:53 PM »
If you are willing to put up with less than great graphics and some retro gameplay there is no deeper franchise mode out there than the one offered in AXIS football https://axisleague.com/ .  I am waiting for it to pass the sony certification process to download it.  The 19 version was good but the newest version looks even deeper on the franchise side. 

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Console Gaming Discussion / Re: PlayStation 5
« on: November 20, 2020, 12:01:28 PM »
yea, I see that after I bought SM PS4, there's a PS5 icon which I guess you click and it upgrades.

I was thinking yesterday that I really wouldnt use it all that much, I mean I guess my PS4 games could be played on it so there's that, but as for new games, Im thinking now that COD isnt worth based on what I read and Cyberpunk may be the only I'd buy for quite some time.

That plus the fact this thing just stands up? You cant lay it flat?
Aside from it being disgustingly butt white, I have to deal with placement issues because it cant lay flat?
Cmon Sony, wtf?

Just to clarify it can be laid flat. It comes with a stand that allows for either.

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Chit Chat / Re: The 2020 Song A Day Thread
« on: November 19, 2020, 05:05:08 PM »
Old and worn out but still good


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Console Gaming Discussion / Re: PlayStation 5
« on: November 19, 2020, 04:53:28 PM »
So far the Ps5 is great. 0 load times with decent graphical upgrades Mk ije all launch titles most are ps4.5 next year will be the real wow games, maybe summer.

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Chit Chat / Re: The Movies Thread
« on: October 12, 2020, 03:48:50 PM »
This will be a quickie, but the NF doc 24 Hour War is worth a watch if you are a racing fan.
There was also the movie, if you are just a casual fan, Ford vs Ferrari with Damon and Bale that was really good at telling this story too.
The doc covers how 24 Hours @ Le Mans came to be and how big racing really was, people just dont realize today.
So it moves kinda quick until it gets to the meaty part which is Ford v Ferrari in the 60's.
It delves in to the management of both Ford and Ferrari, the racers, engineers etc.
Interviews with some of those guys still alive today adds to the emotion and realism of what they are discussing.
If you want entertainment, go with the movie. It's pretty accurate and well told.
If you've seen that and want more, go to the doc, it was worth it to me, especially seeing all the old footage.

Both the documentary and the movie are worth watching.  They were very well done.

 :D
You a big race fan?

Not really but I like a good documentary and a good movie and both fit that bill.  Not to mention this story had a David vs goliath spin, America vs. Europe spin , sticktuitivness vs pessimism spin to it, all of which appeal to me so... I like racing in a passing sort of way but I really just like a well made historically based story.   

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Chit Chat / Re: Cord cutting
« on: October 09, 2020, 10:55:45 AM »
so how is everyone watching football? Are you getting the games you want?

So on the nfl fantasy football app I can watch Monday Thursday and the game of the week.  Not ideal but it gets me at least some football.

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Chit Chat / Re: The Movies Thread
« on: October 09, 2020, 10:54:43 AM »
This will be a quickie, but the NF doc 24 Hour War is worth a watch if you are a racing fan.
There was also the movie, if you are just a casual fan, Ford vs Ferrari with Damon and Bale that was really good at telling this story too.
The doc covers how 24 Hours @ Le Mans came to be and how big racing really was, people just dont realize today.
So it moves kinda quick until it gets to the meaty part which is Ford v Ferrari in the 60's.
It delves in to the management of both Ford and Ferrari, the racers, engineers etc.
Interviews with some of those guys still alive today adds to the emotion and realism of what they are discussing.
If you want entertainment, go with the movie. It's pretty accurate and well told.
If you've seen that and want more, go to the doc, it was worth it to me, especially seeing all the old footage.

Both the documentary and the movie are worth watching.  They were very well done.

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Political Ranting / Re: Gina Carano
« on: September 22, 2020, 06:46:10 PM »
Lets go through a few of these!



The market place of ideas eliminates things like racism and unjust beliefs because it allows them to be in the daylight for all to see. 

How's that working out? Is that why racism has been conquered in the US? Is that why our institutions are free of racist influence, and we live in a time without racial strife? It's funny, you say you haven't heard that saying since 8th grade, as I actively mocked the usage of it by referencing it to Ben Shapiro, and then you go and praise the idea. "The marketplace of ideas" is yet another BS rhetoric, that was the point, and then you praised it.

You are displaying the exact behavior I am talking about ďbe more careful with your wordsĒ why because I might offend someone?

No, because you're not choosing your words carefully, and are actively promoting the kind of apathy and lack of empathy that the alt-right thrives on. I'm sure it's exhausting everyday seeing people up in arms about some new "social justice" deal. Imagine how exhausting it feels to not be able to unplug from that, when you're black, when you're trans, when you're homosexual. That's our privilege, Rigg, that's my point. You decry the mob, but you don't decry the conditions that created the mob.

Every point you made in the paragraph is irrelevant because I did not advocate or even comment regarding any of those issues. 

I feel like I covered this in my response above, but again, your apathy and disregard ARE a comment in and of themselves.

They are paid to do a job. Play a sport, pretend to be another person on film, write a book.    Literally nothing in my post was left or right.

Laura Ingraham: Stick to sports!

The movement by the NBA has been incredible, and is possible because they are players of means due to their talent. Yes, it's an idealist view, but in an ideal world, prominent public figures would use their platform to promote social good. Again, to the point of Gina, they shouldn't be harassed or what have you, but, to repeat myself yet again, decrying this mob without decrying the conditions that created the mob is in and of itself ignoring the real issues underneath. It's not that hard to go "yeah, well, that's Twitter," but instead, there was some lecture about groupthink and cancel culture.

How many people leave this country on rafts, homemade boats, or just illegally immigrate to other countries to get away from the extreme poverty and oppression taking place here?  Now, how many do those things just to get a chance to call this country home?  We may not be perfect but we are a damn sight better than most alternatives.


Is that where the bar is? Do you realize we're STILL banned from travelling to most countries right now? We have the most coronavirus deaths. Healthcare is a nightmare in America. Immigration is, of course, down during the Trump admin (regardless of politics, it's no secret that was the Trump admin's goal, so whether it's down as a matter of policy or as a matter of foreigners being afraid to now come here, I imagine it's a bit of both).

This right here sums up so many of my issues with your posts, Rigg. You act like the status quo is fine. It's not fine. I get that it works for you and me and we get to live our little lives and make out well for our families and such, but for the majority of Americans, especially minorities, it's not working. That's without going into wealth divides. The problem is the deeper underlying core beliefs, the "This is fine" mentality where what you're used to is OK, even if what you're used to is horrible. There's a reason there's been this growing "politically correct" movement, it's a movement for people, and, along with democratic socialism, is trying to fix these very injustices baked into our system. I answer your "things could be worse" with a humble "yes, but things could be so, so much better." Yet, the very idea of treating people with dignity and respect is considered some sort of "radical left" proposition.

I live a life of compassion for others I donít just rant about it on the internet.  If you canít talk with others who differ from you with some modicum of respect then you should refrain from doing so until you grow up a bit. blue pill instead of the red  

And here we have the problem. There is no blue pill. There is no red pill. Labels are idiotic to begin with. It's not that hard to say, as a simple human being, I am for the equal treatment of all my fellow citizens. I am for social justice, be it BLM or what have you. And we have to realize, these matters we're discussing here, they're not opinion. Yes, that's my belief. It's not opinion. To me, it is a truth, and it is a truth many Americans in this country either don't want to deal with, don't want to face, or just simply oppose. Americans lack empathy and compassion, and we see it now with the mask protests, with the taunts and jabs. You ask people to sacrifice for others, for those who are more vulnerable, and you get met with this lack of empathy. You decry the mob calling for compassion, calling for empathy, but you don't call out the fact the reason these cries are coming is these people have faced true oppression, true violation of their rights, while those decrying "cancel culture" have only had the impression of such, because they haven't actually faced true adversity.

I commend you on your home life, and that you're able to carry yourself locally in a way that you can sleep at night, and that leaves you feeling that you contributed to your community. I can do the same. I only hope you can broaden your mind to a larger reality, beyond Democrat/Republican, to intrinsic truths of humanity and civilization. While I don't think America is what you think it is, I still think it can get there, even as it faces it's greatest obstacles ever this year. But I simply cannot agree with the statements you've made in this thread.

Well lets go through a few of these

How's that working out?
The county is less racist now than it has ever been.  It's not perfect or where we want to be but it is better and getting better.  Congress is the most racially diverse its ever been (https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/02/08/for-the-fifth-time-in-a-row-the-new-congress-is-the-most-racially-and-ethnically-diverse-ever/)
  While Pro sports has a ways to go there are more minority coaches now than ever. (https://theundefeated.com/features/black-coaches-cleveland-tyronn-lue-golden-state-mike-brown-nba-finals-first-time-since-1975/)
 Not to mention I grew up in a time that black Qbís were a rarity and now they make up a large portion of the Qb population in the NFL.  For the start of the 2020 NFL season, 10 of the league's 32 starting quarterbacks were black, the most in one week in NFL history. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_starting_black_NFL_quarterbacks#:~:text=It%20was%20not%20until%202017,one%20week%20in%20NFL%20history.)

One I canít gather resources for but can say it because it's self-evident.  It's not that long ago that a person like Don Lemon wouldnít have been allowed on air and never would have been allowed to say what he says.  It's not that long ago that Lebron James would have been fearful for his livelihood or even his life for being as vocal as he is.
There will never be a time that racism doesnít exist in this or any other country.  Even in countries that are for the most part made up of the same race they find other reasons to hate each other, religion, same religion different sect, wrong family, wrong political party. The point is you will never eradicate racism or hatred form the earth.  Should we try yes and we are.  We are a long way from segregated society and socially accepted racism. There are more examples but I know you will only dismiss them offhand and again act like we are living in the most oppressive society ever, ironically if you were living in that society you would not be allowed to say so.

  You are displaying the exact behavior I am talking about ďbe more careful with your wordsĒ why because I might offend someone?


I donít have to choose my words carefully because I said nothing offensive. I used the word mob to describe those attacking Gina because it accurately describes those people.  I used the term cancel culture because itís a real thing and its what they are trying to do to her by asking for her job over literally nothing.




Every point you made in the paragraph is irrelevant because I did not advocate or even comment regarding any of those issues.

What apathy are you talking about?  I have literally said they deserve to be treated humanly and be allowed to live their lives as they choose.  What exactly is apathetic about that?  Is it only good enough if I swear allegiance to every issue, they have blindly tied myself to a cause?  If so, thatís called being bullied into supporting something, much like they are trying to do to Gina. You point out a specific injustice and I will fight with you on that issue but I won't blindly support any movement because no movement is 100% right all the time.

They are paid to do a job. Play a sport, pretend to be another person on film, write a book.   

So, you are double speaking.  They donít have to make a statement but if they donít then they are part of the problem.  In other words, they donít have a choice, think this way, support this cause, or lose your career.  Fascist much?

How many people leave this country on rafts

I believe in my own post I said things could be better.  All socialism will get you is poverty for all, but why pay attention to every country that has tried it. Donít try and use Denmark as a rebuttal, even they say they are not socialist, they have a capitalist economy. (https://www.vox.com/2015/10/31/9650030/denmark-prime-minister-bernie-sanders)
You read into things a lot; do you realize that? I have never once said the status quo is great and there is no room for improvement.  I have said all people should be treated with compassion no matter their beliefs. I have said that no one should be mistreated for their given lifestyle.  You can not go two-seconds without mentioning Trump in an argument: do you realize that?  He literally has nothing to do with this conversation yet you keep bringing him up as if he proves some point.
As to whether should the bar be people wanting to risk life and limb to get into this country? Yes, it should.  If this country were half as bad as you think it is they would not want to be here. You are a product of privileged.  You set in a county that affords you the freedom to do as you wish be who you wish and you cant see it.  I believe in the constitution and the dream of a people governing itself.  A government answerable to the people. A land where all men are created equal and afforded equal opportunity but not guarantees equal outcome.  Is that what we have now? Yes and no. In many ways we are there in others we have miles to go. We are not perfect but we are better than the other options as a whole. Much like personal growth, we will never reach an end growth is indefinate. 

I live a life of compassion for others I donít just rant about it on the internet.
The problem with everything you just said is its gibberish.  I am an independent and donít vote for party affiliation, which I have told you the past.  I would say on a local level this last election I voted 70% democrat about 50/50 on the state level and about 60% republican on the federal level.
I spoke of the mob because it was the subject of our discussion regarding Gina.  I am not obligated to cry out in every discussion about underlying oppression especially when it had nothing to do with what we were talking about. I would argue that by being there for real people I actually know in their times of need I am making more of a real impact for change than a hundred internet warriors crying out for change in an echo chamber.
There you ago again attacking me, claiming I lack empathy or compassion for others. How do you make these judgments?  I have said nothing to give even an ounce of credence to your assertions.

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Political Ranting / Re: Gina Carano
« on: September 22, 2020, 05:41:08 PM »
She elected to not cave in and that doesnt mean she doesnt care. I get the feeling she does care, but the beep bop boop in my mind was a quiet fuck you, I will not acquiesce to your ridiculous demands. Who the fuck are you anyway?
That's the spirit I take away from this whole thing.

But there's a reason people put those pronouns into their profiles: it's to normalize it for both the trans-community and non-binary folks, who do use those pronouns in their profiles to avoid misgendering
. However, it also puts a target on their back for the online bigots, and thus the proliferation of pronouns across the site. I don't have them in my profile on Twitter because I don't tweet, ever, literally, I only read stuff on the site plus I'm certainly not a person of any prominence, but I do have them in my email signature at work, all for the purpose of helping to normalize pronoun usage at my workplace.

Again, I'm not saying she had to add the pronouns to her Twitter, and I'm not saying she should lose her job on the Mandalorian because of the beep/boop/bop nonsense. But it was a childish and misguided response. It's a case of "everyone reacted in the worst way possible," from the people harassing her to Gina's response, and unfortunately, it results in the erasure of the actual victims and issue.

I understand the purpose, but I'm suggesting that she took the stance that, a) the photo had nothing to do with trans people, b) had nothing to do with ACAB or BLM, but yet, that's the mess she found herself in through no action or comment of her own.
And worse, instead of trying to converse with her to see if there was a misunderstanding in her meaning, she was literally bullied in to doing something that was well beyond her intent. hence the beep bop boop being a fuck you.
She saw it as cyber bullying, and honestly, I do too, but Twitter sees it as her being a transphobe.

Ill mostly agree with the last part and I do think we are in the same book if not the same page, but I dont think she was childish, I think it was a measured response to bully tactics for which she has a history of opposing. Would it had been better to not say anything? Sure. Especially in her position. But she felt just as strong about her cause as the Twitter user's did about theirs. Ill add, Gina's response is directly related to the shit storm thrust upon her. She did nothing to warrant the onslaught against her.

Agree with all of what you said.

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Chit Chat / Re: The Life Thread
« on: September 22, 2020, 05:38:47 PM »
Our two older dogs passed.  We had a Golden retriever mix and Begal that passed during the early days of this mess.  Since then we had added a German Shepard to the house.

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Political Ranting / Re: Gina Carano
« on: September 22, 2020, 03:34:49 PM »
Well, I haven't checked back here in a bit but wow BoJack you are one hostile fella.  You need to calm down and take the time to read a post and not read into it what you want to see. I will do my best to respond.

As Crew pointed out when I spoke of Rosa Parks and others, I was alluding to the point Gina Carano was making with her original tweet, not comparing her to Rosa Parks.  Sorry, that alluded you.

If you can not find examples of cancel culture due to an unwillingness to conform to a vocal mobís shouts, thatís on you.  You are willfully ignorant on that front if you canít see it.

One, my stance on Trans people is my stance on all people.  The way a person chooses to live his or her life is their choice. Only if that way of life brings harm to others should it be curtailed.   No one should be persecuted for their beliefs or lifestyle. Violence against any person for their chosen lifestyle is not to be condoned nor encouraged.  This doesnít mean that anyone should be forced to accept anotherís choices or beliefs into their own belief system.

Two, I am not sure what point you were making with the whole Donald Trump and Identity politics rant.  I didnít talk about any of those things. 
Not sure what I am apathetic about since I did not say any of the things you are accusing me of saying. As far as peaceful protests go. They are protected by the constitution under the right to peacefully assemble.  So, yea have at it. Protest away as long as it's peaceful.

 To say that the only people that should be afraid of cancel culture are bigots is like saying the only people that should fear the police are the guilty.  Today's accepted is tomorrow's offense in today's gottcha social media-driven narrative. So if anyone is asinine it is you for believing that statement.

So, let me address these points in turn:

Rosa Parks stood up for people. Gina, at most, stood up for herself. I stand by saying the comparison is asinine. Again, not saying Gina had to give in to the mob, but, just noting the comparison is wildly inaccurate.

And, no, cancel culture is not coming for us. Cancel culture only exists on Twitter and, as our current administration and their families are all way too online and involved on Twitter, yes, they tend to get banned, or have posts censored, but that's all it is. Cancel culture doesn't exist in real life. And that's the point I made, that you failed to recognize. When you start parroting off these buzzwords, like "groupthink" and "the digital Gestapo," you're parroting right wing talking points. There's not much more to it than that, I don't know what to tell you, it's that straightforward. These specters and ghouls are of 0 concern to most ordinary citizens, and yet it's the way the GOP has to scare people into voting for them nowadays. When you parrot it, you actively promote it. Be more careful with your words?

"Choice or belief" system is an interesting way to phrase things. It's funny, considering how we talk about "cancel culture" in here, as white males. How do you think trans individuals feel? Do you think they feel cancelled, every day of their life? Do you think when they were barred from the military or when NC tries to pass bath room bills, they felt cancelled? That's real oppression, that's real "cancel culture," and that's why your rhetoric above about "mobs" is misguided at best, actively dangerous at worst. You and I don't have to fear cancel culture. No one's coming to Blindsideblitz to get us.

So yes, when someone has a platform, with a prominent, public face, people tend to want them to stand up for them, because for some reason in this country, minorities are overlooked and underheard. Again, do I feel like that should have resulted in harassment towards her? Absolutely not. But I think when we fear the online response, more than the actual, real life, physical response these people experience everyday, we lose a piece of ourselves. That's why they want you scared of cancel culture, but, again, and I cannot emphasize this enough, it does not exist.

I think there's also something to be said for the fact that Carano, as far as I know, hasn't taken any stances. I don't think she's spoken out against anything. I don't think she's spoken out for anything. So, at a time when we see another prominent public figure, JK Rowling, actively speaking out against trans people and basically calling them not human, to have Gina decide this is the hill she's going to die on, with her "beep/boop/bop" response, is a pretty shit look, overall. She could have A) not responded, B) taken steps towards trans-advocacy or C) provided an actual reasoned argument for her decisions. Instead, she chose to belittle and mock, which is when things really kicked into high gear. She's responsible for her own actions too, and clearly isn't afraid of "cancel culture." Meanwhile, JK, for all her anti-trans bullshit, also has a new book being released, so, again, it only exists on Twitter, not in real life.

This is all why I take issue with your overall response. Yeah, I get her point, as do you, but then you kept talking and sputtering on with this other nonsense.

And, one last thing, and this isn't really a direct response but a rambling thought following: While I absolutely decry methods of harassment and violence, the fact that people actively oppose equal rights for these minority groups, and this is treated like a valid opinion and something worth protecting, will never stop boggling my mind. For some reason in this country, and we see it here, we often are angrier about the reaction to the problem than the problem itself. Our "radical left" is normal left in most other countries, our "center" is far right in most countries, and yet we treat the cries of the left for compassion towards citizens, for restoring humanity and dignity to our people, as "radical" while giving credence to those who would promote bigotry and oppress our fellow citizens. I don't understand this. I don't understand why people won't call a spade a spade and instead do this Ben Shapiro "marketplace of ideas" nonsense. If our country recognized this, Gina Carano would've never been in the position she's in to begin with, but, hey, that's just America at this point.

Well, again you act like there was a lot more to my post then was there.

Yes, Rosa park stood up for people as did the person in the picture Gina shared.  So, the comparison is not invalid or a stretch.  Unless you think a person refusing to salute in Nazi Germany was less dangerous than what Rosa Parks did and in that case your nuts.  They were both dangerous in equal amounts.
You seem to think it is ok to sensor oneís thoughts and ideas.  That is more like Nazi Germany than the United States.  This is a market place of ideas, thanks for reminding me of that phrase havenít heard it since 8th-grade government class. The first amendment protects all speech, not just the speech you or I agree with.  The market place of ideas eliminates things like racism and unjust beliefs because it allows them to be in the daylight for all to see.  It allows reasonable people to choose between what is clearly wrong and clearly right. It allows for as you say a spade to be called a spade. If you try and suppress an idea you only succeed to drive it underground where it will grow in the fertile conspiratorial ground of the internet.   You cannot regulate peopleís morality.  It doesnít work, see the prohibition for an example.  You are displaying the exact behavior I am talking about ďbe more careful with your wordsĒ why because I might offend someone? I have said nothing in either post that a reasonable nonpartisan person would find offensive.
What does my race have to with the Transgender issue?  That is a reach and partisan rhetoric at best. Every point you made in the paragraph is irrelevant because I did not advocate or even comment regarding any of those issues.  They were irrelevant to the topic at hand.  As far as my fear of cancel culture, I donít fear it because even if I became its target, unlikely I know but for argument sake, I wouldnít give it a thought.  I would not give in to it because it is like a petulant child whaling for its way. It will get louder and louder until it eventually realizes its tactic won't work and then will move on.  Thus, the reason I respected her response.  She did not capitulate to their stupid caterwauling. She may eventually give in to their pressure and what I am sure her agent is telling her but for now, I respect her actions.
Those with a platform are not obligated to parrot anyoneís ideas.  They are paid to do a job. Play a sport, pretend to be another person on film, write a book.  None of those careers makes you obligated to say anything on anyoneís behalf.  If you chose to express your opinion than you are stupid to not expect others to push back or directly disagree.  That however is not the same as being shouted into silence because you donít agree with the loudest trolls. As far as her Bee Boop Bop comment I actually thought she was referencing R2D2 in some offbeat connection to her role on the Mandalorian.  I thought it was a misguided attempt to lighten the mood.  It failed to land and she would have been better off saying nothing.  As you said she has not come out to support anything one way or another which is why your attack of my original post was very confusing.  I did not attack any group or support any agenda but you jumped right to a bunch of conclusions with no evidence to substantiate them.  Literally nothing in my post was left or right.  It only denounced the mob mentality of the internet and all that entails, the mob by the way is known as cancel culture. As defined by Merriam-webster  ďThe Origin of 'Cancel Culture'
The term has been credited to black users of Twitter, where it has been used as a hashtag. As troubling information comes to light regarding celebrities who were once popular, such as Bill Cosby, Michael Jackson, Roseanne Barr, and Louis C.K. óso come calls to cancel such figures.Ē 
https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/cancel-culture-words-were-watching#:~:text=The%20Origin%20of%20'Cancel%20Culture'&text=The%20term%20has%20been%20credited,calls%20to%20cancel%20such%20figures.

Almost everything you said in the last paragraph is an opinion, not fact, and you are entitled to it.  God bless you for being you, even as wrong as you are. Here is a litmus test for your theories on how bad this county is.  How many people leave this country on rafts, homemade boats, or just illegally immigrate to other countries to get away from the extreme poverty and oppression taking place here?  Now, how many do those things just to get a chance to call this country home?  We may not be perfect but we are a damn sight better than most alternatives.

I noticed you ignored my rebuttal of your accusation of me having no moral compass or humanity just like you did the last time we had this discussion, good because you have no leg to stand on.  I live a life of compassion for others I donít just rant about it on the internet.  If you canít talk with others who differ from you with some modicum of respect then you should refrain from doing so until you grow up a bit. You routinely talk down to those that hold different views than you.  You act like you have a moral authority that is, well imagined.  You are no better than I am or any other poor schlub trying to make it in this world. You can think your poop donít stink because you chose to swallow the blue pill instead of the red but in all honesty all of the poop stinks, its poop. I remained respectful to you until you started basically calling me immoral and implying many other things. For a while I just avoided posting anything political here until Crew encouraged me to return to the fray awhile back. So, I guess in hindsight I did give in to a type of cancel culture I allowed your behavior to detour me from sharing my input on discussions.     

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