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Title: MLB The Show 18
Post by: BojackHorsefella on March 09, 2018, 06:05:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vEk6ranoHQ

I've pretty much already decided to buy this since I skipped 17, which seems like a good idea because all the new gameplay and presentation stuff has sounded great. They finally revealed the new RTTS enhancements and I'm still good to go.

The fun part was the guy saying "in past years, you'd have good at bats and by the end of the game you'd have 600, 1000 points to just put in whatever stat." HAHAHAHAHAHA, I wish that had ever happened.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: Crewe on March 09, 2018, 06:46:10 PM
Cant watch this, at work right now and Im not up on what changes there are, but for years Ive been lobbying for RTTS to:
Limit what attributes you can increase. Speed, throw strength, to a degree, hit power among others do not increase over a players career. Certainly not at such drastic rates. Some attributes should be static.
Most increases should take place in the minors and the first years in the show. Its just far to easy to gather points and have a 99 over guy in no time. I have tens of thousands of points stockpiled because I just dont want to contribute to attributes.
Also, need to easily access a catchers ability to throw runners out. When on base, guys know what kind of catcher they are up against.
Theres more but thats enough for now, will watch later
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: BojackHorsefella on March 09, 2018, 07:24:22 PM
Sure you didn't? Because all that you just said, they actually did (the catcher thing is addressed in the general gameplay enhancements video, which is not this one. But the rest...you actually nailed it).
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: Crewe on March 10, 2018, 12:30:38 AM
Lol no kidding? 😎
No need to watch it now, heh
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: BojackHorsefella on March 22, 2018, 05:21:21 PM
Pre-ordered the MVP edition from Gamestop which apparently means I get to pick it up tomorrow. Sweet.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: BojackHorsefella on March 23, 2018, 07:35:40 PM
Time to see what this baby's got.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: Crewe on March 23, 2018, 10:07:57 PM
I was going to pre order, but found a deal for 20% off that excludes pre orders so Ill hang back.
lemme know what you think.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: TheNorm on March 24, 2018, 12:24:58 AM
I'll get this eventually but not right now.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: TheNorm on April 11, 2018, 11:01:26 AM
So what's the verdict so far from anyone that has it?
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: Crewe on April 11, 2018, 11:09:08 AM
I only play RTTS and haven't played that much yet. That said, no sweeping changes Ive noticed, but Im also just getting into the swing of things again.
So far, Ive only imported my 2nd year catcher. I was thinking of starting again just to see how soon players get called up. Thats still a pet peeve of mine.
My guy sucks, hitting .185 and up still a big league catcher with only a year in the minors.
I really want to finish off my 10 year guy this version but I dont play as frequently so we will s ee how that plays out.
The imported audio files (music etc...) seems to play at a lower level which is disconcerting.
Since everyone and their neighbor avoids the timing analog swing except me, Im trying out the other option.

Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: BojackHorsefella on April 11, 2018, 12:38:58 PM
I'm loving it. I've created a RF and a CP in RTTS who are my mains, and then I do have a 3B and a SP but they don't get played as much. The RF is me. The other ones are all...deformed.

Anyways, I haven't put the game down. I'm in year 2 with my RF, he's the only one who's been called up to AAA so far. My CP made the AA all-star team and has led AA for all closers, but still hasn't gotten called up (he's on the Mets, the RF is on the Pirates, for whatever that may be worth). The other two I haven't played enough.

I use the timed analog swings and I DON'T use Guess the Pitch. My RF typically hovers around .300 swinging that way, depending on which way he's streaking at that time. Sometimes I get up to .340, sometimes I get down to .240, but usually it's close to or above .300. I realized on 16 I was ALWAYS pulling back on the analog stick, because I thought you had to, but evidently that's how you power swing. Just flicking the analog stick forward is a normal swing. Made a huge difference.

I think not using Guess the Pitch has also helped. I think the penalties for guessing wrong were just too much.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: Crewe on April 11, 2018, 01:42:30 PM
Quote from: Bucfever on April 11, 2018, 12:38:58 PM
I realized on 16 I was ALWAYS pulling back on the analog stick, because I thought you had to, but evidently that's how you power swing. Just flicking the analog stick forward is a normal swing. Made a huge difference.

huh? Interesting, Ill have to remember that next time I fire it up because thats how I play. Im trying out the button swing but you use the coverage indicator to follow the ball, cant recall the proper gaming term lol I like timing better because it just seems tone more of a true representation of an AB for me.

Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: BojackHorsefella on April 11, 2018, 02:19:59 PM
Yeah. I'm still not entirely sure about aiming, because sometimes I'll have good timing but I'll swing over the ball. I don't know if that's a ratings thing, since my plate vision is still a lower number since I'm only in year two, or if there's something else I should be doing.

But, I can't really argue with the results I've been having, so I ignore it. I'm basically Aaron Judge, I hover around .300, I knock one into the stands every now and again, and I strikeout a bit more than I'd like to.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: Crewe on April 11, 2018, 02:32:06 PM
wait, Im confused. When I say timing, I mean pure analog. Use the right stick, but you have to pull back to start stride and then forward to swing.
The one I was trying out was zone hitting where you use the right stick to place the zone around the ball and use the button to swing.
oh FYI if it applies to anyone as it dos me. I just tried importing my ten year guy and it wouldn't let me, stating I hadn't progressed one calendar year in the 17 version. Luckily I still have 17 so I can do it if I desire but just a heads up
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: BojackHorsefella on April 11, 2018, 02:43:45 PM
Oh, ok. Yeah, I use Pure Analog, but you don't actually have to pull BACK on the stick. That's only if you WANT to power swing, which I didn't know when I was playing 16 (again, I skipped 17).

If you just push the stick forward when you time your hit, that's a "normal swing." If you push the stick left or right that's a "contact swing." I pretty much never use that.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: Crewe on April 11, 2018, 02:53:09 PM
huh, that didnt work for me, pushing the stick forward
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: BojackHorsefella on April 11, 2018, 02:58:42 PM
I'll have to double check what settings I'm one when I get home, but I'm 99.9% sure it's pure analog. Don't click the stick, not like, R3 or any of that. You just don't pull back like you normally do.

If that's still not working I...don't actually know then. I think when you start the game and it asks you how you want to hit, it tells you the "normal" swing is forward. I bet if you go to the tutorial it'll say.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: Crewe on April 11, 2018, 03:05:17 PM
hey check in to it because Im on pure analog and ive tried a couple of times to do the flick forward and it doesn't work.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: BojackHorsefella on April 11, 2018, 03:51:06 PM
Are you pushing forward...enough?

I have no freaking clue, haha. Go youtube it! Nah, I'll come back to this once I've tried it back out.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: BojackHorsefella on April 11, 2018, 07:49:00 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure Crewe. On the main menu you can go to Game Options, and when you go to Pure Analog it shows, right stick up, left right or down and up.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: Crewe on April 11, 2018, 09:54:46 PM
ok, so you can choose flick or pure analog. Tried flick, but Im used to pure analog where you have tio pull back to time your step, but at least we got that figured out lol
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: BojackHorsefella on April 11, 2018, 10:09:11 PM
Aaaaaaaaaaaah, I see that now. Wow, do I feel dumb.

I'm liking the flick though myself. It's working for me.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: Crewe on April 19, 2018, 12:40:26 PM
So I reverted back to pure analog timing swing. Seems more realistic than button mashing to me.
Also, anyone tp me off on how to read the training attributes?
I cant really tell which I should work on when the opportunity arises, i.e., which traits are closer to or are regressing.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: BojackHorsefella on April 19, 2018, 02:24:20 PM
If you mean the big run-down you get at the end of a game, I think it declines if it reaches the far left of the bar, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: Crewe on April 19, 2018, 03:24:42 PM
sorry, no I mean when you get to a training session. As I recall, you get three categories to choose from and within each category you can elect to increase certain attributes. My question was, I can discern which attributes need attention. In the old version, say if your contact was regressing because you haven't applied training points recently, it would be yellow, alerting you to that fact.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: BojackHorsefella on April 19, 2018, 04:06:54 PM
They revamped all of that. Attributes only regress now if you suck constantly, otherwise all base gains and base losses occur in game (like, during an actual baseball game) based on your performance during that game, and attribute ratings are increased or decreased based on those gains and losses.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: Crewe on April 19, 2018, 04:56:08 PM
right, I get all that, but moreso , current cap, max cap....all that makes little sense to me.
Im anxious to see how regression attacks older guys, my 12 year guy will be interesting
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: BojackHorsefella on April 19, 2018, 06:00:00 PM
So, in order to avoid a player being 99 in every possible category and thus the greatest player to have ever lived, this year they have caps on certain attributes depending on the player type you chose at the start (i.e. Power Hitter, Defensive Wizard, etc).

So, lets say you choose a Power Hitter type (like my RF, who's basically me, as Aaron Judge). His MAX Cap for Power is 99, simply meaning he can eventually get to 99 power. His CURRENT cap is like 70, I think right now, which means if I get to a 70 rating in power (I'm ignoring PWR vs L and PWR vs R, but obviously this applies to both), if I don't train to raise the cap, my guy will stay at 70 power. I could have 10 games in a row, all with 2 home runs per game, but I'll still be just a 70 PWR rating until I train to increase my current cap.

Rinse, repeat for all other categories. And, for MAX Cap, obviously it's not always 99. I think the Judge archetype has either a max cap of 75 or 80 for Contact. So I'll never get to have 99 contact, the max I can hope for is 80.


I think I explained this right, but considering how these Q and A sessions in here have gone so far, I'm beginning to realize why I failed that Apple interview for at home customer support years ago.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: Crewe on April 19, 2018, 10:04:53 PM
LOL no, that actually makes perfect sense and at the same time makes me feel like a dolt because I didnt figure it out on my own.
Thanks for the explanation
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: Crewe on May 01, 2018, 11:36:41 PM
Just one of those little things but I noticed that when a pitch is out of the zone but called a strike anyway you still get credit for discipline if you didn't swing lol

What batting stance does you fellas use?
Im pretty well set for mine but I haven't plowed through all of them in probably three versions.
I tend to choose stances that incorporate the style I used so they are all kinda similar:
Legend stance 21 (big stride)
Legends stance 25
Veterans stance 116
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: Crewe on May 02, 2018, 01:11:48 AM
btw, used to be you could find real mlb career stats like Ricky Henersons stolen base record, Ruths HR's, Dimaggios streak etc and it would show if your player had takeover any said records....cant find those now. Any ideas?

NM, I found it, oddly enough, under stats  ???
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: Crewe on May 04, 2018, 08:52:11 PM
also, anyone know why and what the Twitter is for on the player card? not taking about on the main team screen. Open player card and L1 or R1 and you'll see the Twitter icon but nothing is ever there. Whats the purpose?
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: BojackHorsefella on May 05, 2018, 11:37:35 AM
Not sure about on the player card. I know there's the social media thing on the main RTTS menu but that's all I've seen.

Also, I had to give in and set the difficulty to a static Hall of Fame. Everytime I moved up to Legend it was...not pretty.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: Crewe on May 05, 2018, 12:51:59 PM
check out the twitter on the player card, see if you can figure out what its for? maybe it doesn't pertain to RTTS?
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: BojackHorsefella on May 05, 2018, 01:05:49 PM
Once I get off work I'll check it out. I'm definitely curious too.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: Crewe on May 06, 2018, 12:00:25 PM
I was told that is the real Twitter feed of actual players
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: Crewe on May 10, 2018, 10:19:53 AM
little things.
When a pitch outside the zone is called a strike, you get credit for plate discipline anyway  8)
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: BojackHorsefella on May 10, 2018, 10:39:57 AM
Along similar lines, if you hit a ball foul but the pitch was in the strike zone, you get credited for Plate Vision.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: BojackHorsefella on May 26, 2018, 01:19:53 PM
Quote from: Crewe on April 11, 2018, 09:54:46 PM
ok, so you can choose flick or pure analog. Tried flick, but Im used to pure analog where you have tio pull back to time your step, but at least we got that figured out lol

I may have to go back to Pure Analog over the flick, because I've been having a lot of trouble seeing the ball lately and I am way too early on my swings. I think the extra second it'll take to start my stride would help a lot. Do you find that's the case at all?

It's weird, because I'm a streaky hitter. I was up over .340 for a while actually, and I'm all the way back down to like, .240 now in August of my 4th season. Got traded from Pitt before hitting the Show, made it to the Bigs in my 4th year when they traded me in the off-season to the Rays, who traded me after like, two or three months to the Astros, where I currently play in right.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: Crewe on May 26, 2018, 03:31:43 PM
Oh Im a very streaky hitter. Seeing my average dissolve into nothing is trendy for me.
Ive always used pure analog except on rare occasions Ill try the button + PCI indicator, but I always come back to this just because its all timing based.
Im still way too early some times and I think MLB has done a great job with making a discernible difference between a 92 mph 2 seamer v a 95 mph 4 seamer.
What I try to do, I don't always, but work the count. I almost never swing at the first two pitches unless I get a feel for something.
Then, if Im doing well, I try to not look fastball, at all, unless its around 90mph. If I look slider, change, curve, then my timing will be better. And honestly through an AB, you wont see that many fastballs, not in the zone anyway. Unless of course, its a FB pitcher.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: BojackHorsefella on May 26, 2018, 04:19:35 PM
Yeah, I just tried flick + PCI indicator, but I was just getting "Too Late" constantly. I can't spot the ball, move the cursor and swing nearly fast enough.

The thing that scares me about the pure timing element is how it aims. Sometimes my swing timing will be good, but I'll swing over or under the ball or miss. And yeah, sometimes it's because it's outside the zone, but not EVERY time.

You're absolutely right about that subtle difference between 92mph and 95mph and so forth. I think my biggest issue is when a guy's #1 pitch is the 4-seam or 2-seam, then yeah, I'm sitting on the fastball (plus DeRosa constantly saying "in the majors you hit off the heater"). I'm awful at swinging at any breaking pitch that's outside the zone away, too, which is a separate issue.

I have this irrational fear of being afraid to miss on the fastball. I don't want to be late on it, I don't want to swing and miss it, and I don't want to take one and just let it by me if it's in the zone. And obviously that affects my timing when he does actually throw a breaking pitch or a changeup. But that's baseball, I guess? I refuse to bump the difficulty down to All-Star, but I would like it if my player wasn't a chump also. Granted, it's his first year in the majors so maybe it's supposed to be like this (especially being a late round draft pick) but it's also hard to improve my ratings when I can't get a hit.

And yeah, I think another of my issue is I can't really "solve" the pitcher. I can't predict their rhythm, and usually when I try ("He threw a changeup away and low, so here comes a high, inside fastball") it never ends well.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: Crewe on May 26, 2018, 05:38:55 PM
Quote from: Bucfever on May 26, 2018, 04:19:35 PM

The thing that scares me about the pure timing element is how it aims. Sometimes my swing timing will be good, but I'll swing over or under the ball or miss. And yeah, sometimes it's because it's outside the zone, but not EVERY time.
I used to feel that way, but the more I play, I find it allows room for error if your timing is better. plus, Ive found that your attributes contribute as well, such as contact, vision etc, so I worry much less about that aspect of it because it seems to correct itself pretty well.

Quote from: Bucfever on May 26, 2018, 04:19:35 PM
I have this irrational fear of being afraid to miss on the fastball.
And yeah, I think another of my issue is I can't really "solve" the pitcher. I can't predict their rhythm, and usually when I try ("He threw a changeup away and low, so here comes a high, inside fastball") it never ends well.

lol I chuckled. That was me too. Thats why I say I just let the first pitch go, if its a FB strike, oh well. The 1-0 pitch will hardly ever be a strike so we are even again and now I know you are morel likely to go to your second pitch. Thats just my approach, the one I try to maintain. Sometimes man, sometimes, there are pitchers that make that FB look so dang hittable I just cant help to swing even if its in catchers mitt when I do so :D

As for the rhythm, you can, and you know, I found on a couple of my guys, there are just pitchers I own, like Darvish for some reason. I just hit the hell out of him with one of my guys. Face him with another, not so much. I think thats really cool.
But back to strategy, I still look for it like you said, if someone is throwing high heat, I know that change down low is coming, sooner or later, so I let the FB go and wait for the change. As noted, doesn't always end well lol
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: BojackHorsefella on May 26, 2018, 07:36:52 PM
I've also tried changing my camera to the strike zone 3 cam, to try to get a better look at the ball.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: BojackHorsefella on May 26, 2018, 09:46:20 PM
Additionally, I'm slowly but surely realizing that any low pitch I need to be later on, pitches up I can get away with being early depending on the pitch, and middle is about normal.

Also, I can barely hit pitches inside, and especially not pitches inside and low.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: Crewe on May 27, 2018, 12:47:58 AM
My inside third is all ice blue and every pitcher knows it. Two strikes? I know it's going to be on the inner half so then I get to work on my fouling off technique 😏
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: BojackHorsefella on May 28, 2018, 02:12:15 AM
So I stopped using Guess the Pitch a while ago because the penalty was too much when you guessed wrong, but what I've started doing is guessing fastball high on the first pitch. If I get it, I swing. If I don't, I don't. And if I get ahead 1-0, I guess it again, and any other time I'm ahead in the count.

Definitely getting better pitches to hit using this because it's calmed down my more spaz tendencies at the plate, but where I've really seen improvement is how many walks I'm drawing now.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: Crewe on May 28, 2018, 10:51:02 AM
Good for you. I love working the count, and rarely swing at the first pitch.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: BojackHorsefella on May 28, 2018, 11:08:21 AM
Quote from: Crewe on May 28, 2018, 10:51:02 AM
Good for you. I love working the count, and rarely swing at the first pitch.

Yeah, you'd mentioned that, and I always look fastball high, but I wasn't using guess the pitch at first so I still found myself swinging aggressively. So guess the pitch has calmed my bat down
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: Crewe on May 28, 2018, 01:12:27 PM
I agree, and I haven't used GTP in a long long while
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: BojackHorsefella on May 28, 2018, 03:23:12 PM
So I ended the season with a .202 avg and a .279 obp. 6 games into the post-season I have a .318 avg and .444 obp, so clearly the change is working.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: Crewe on May 28, 2018, 03:37:20 PM
how man seasons in is that guy?
I just finished my newest fella with a Mendoza line performance in my first full, but second MLB season.
pretty bad Ace lol
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: BojackHorsefella on May 28, 2018, 04:44:43 PM
This is year 5. I've posted up above .300 #s in 3 seasons in the minors, but I've had two seasons where I got destroyed by lefties. This year was both lefties and eighties, but moreso lefties.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: Crewe on May 28, 2018, 04:46:45 PM
I like lefties. I can see the ball and release cleaner than I can off of righties, unless its a submarine pitcher. I absolutely murder those guys.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: BojackHorsefella on May 28, 2018, 05:04:23 PM
I'm the worst against sub-mariners, and lefties I think everything is in the strike zone if they throw inside, just because watching the ball cross the zone.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: BojackHorsefella on June 22, 2018, 06:44:26 PM
I had to bump the difficulty down to All-Star in my current season :(
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: Crewe on June 22, 2018, 09:43:40 PM
haha, Ive made adjustments before too, no worries
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: BojackHorsefella on June 23, 2018, 07:57:59 PM
I may have to go all the way down to veteran.

What infuriates me is my OBP is over .300, it's not like I'm not selective or not seeing the ball. But, if this game tracked BABIP, that would be in the dumpster. I swear, it's not even ground balls, I just cannot miss OFs when I make contact or it just dies at the edge of the warning track. I don't know what else to do! I have 1 HR after about 40 games or so (if that many. Maybe, like, 32 games).

And, it sucks, because it doesn't matter how far you hit it, if it's not a hit, your power rating doesn't go up. And after a certain point, apparently, you can't even use training to get your contact or power up, you just have to perform in game, and I'm constantly getting robbed. Heaven forbid a liner get past the first or third basemen.

Ugh. I'm frustrated. This is why I don't mind going undefeated every season on Madden. They balance each other out.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: Crewe on June 24, 2018, 12:08:13 AM
how old is your guy and what level is he currently?
Ive got one in the minors going through that very scenario. I ended up below the Mendoza line this last season with him. Ill see how he develops and take a look at next season.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: BojackHorsefella on June 24, 2018, 12:59:20 AM
23 and he's really not. His cap for contact is 80 and my Contact R is about 75 or so, my Con L is 69. Power is in the high 60s although I have some equipment giving me +8.

Btw, I went and did the math on my 2 seasons in the Majors. Subtract the strikeouts from the at bats and I'm batting over .300 on balls in play. Clearly I didn't realize just HOW MUCH I strikeout.

I'm doing a little better on Veteran right now. I realized I was swinging at fastballs way too late when I was actually locating them.

The biggest problem is just continually fighting that urge to swing away the second I find the ball, no matter where it is or the type of pitch. Curveballs kill me in the zone because I swing too early when sitting fastball.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: Crewe on June 24, 2018, 01:36:36 AM
yea K's are a killer. That stinking changeup is the one of my existence. I still try to not look fastball because that pitch wont be thrown for a strike unless you get into a hitters count so that helps me locate the breaking balls and offspeed stuff, sans that blasted changeup lol

if I lay off a while, it takes me a long time of playing to get back in the groove and find the timing again.
Title: Re: MLB The Show 18
Post by: TheNorm on September 21, 2018, 02:06:48 PM
Flash Sale this weekend has this for $19.99, $24.99 for the All-Star edition, and $39.99 for the digital deluxe.