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Title: The Movies Thread
Post by: Sakura on May 19, 2014, 04:58:44 AM
Super 8
So I tuned in to this on TV (to my surprise), and I watched what was probably 30-60 minutes into the movie.  That's fine, typically the first half of a movie like this is just filler to get you introduced to characters that you don't care about anyway.  So as I come into the movie, there's a defiant kid with a chip on his shoulder because his mom died, and his fat douchebag of a friend who bullies and yells at him over insignificant things.  And part of the reason why is because of a love triangle (that only exists in fatty's head) with a girl that the protagonist likes (and she likes him).

The name of the movie comes from the camera used to film their home movie, a Super 8 film camera, which the bullying friend used as a means to try and get to know (and get her to like him, as if that would somehow work) the female tritagonist.  On the final day of shooting their movie, however, a violent eruption occurs and strange events unfold.  In the aftermath, they try to figure out just why it is that the military has shown up, but of course just like every movie, we get to hear the most cliched crap, "classified," "need to know basis, and you don't need to know," blah blah blah.  Makes me feel irritable when I see movies that always fall back on crap lines like that.

So the boys can't figure out what the problem is, until later that night they're watching the film reel that they've been shooting with.  During the events that took place, they video taped something that they never would have expected to (and never noticed the night it happened), and now they're aware of why the military has shown up.  During this time, the deuteragonist is introduced in the form of some kind of alien life form.  In a small town of 12,000 caught between an enraged alien and a military strike force hell bent on capturing it, our protagonist is further hampered when both his father and his would-be girlfriend are abducted.

So describing the jist of the rising narrative, I'll get to my own falling point thoughts.  What a waste of a good movie.  This movie had a lot of potential, it was really kind of exciting and intriguing to watch.  But I don't know if it was a budget constraint, or just bad writing, the final 20 minutes of the movie rendered the entire thing not only stupid, but a waste of time.  In the movie, the tired as hell plot device that it's a misunderstood gentle giant, and we're simply the monsters that made it into the unstoppable killer that it has become is present.  I'd really like to see some movies that don't use this.  Why does mankind always paint itself as this ignominious tyrant race that is the root cause of every problem?  Also present is the fat loudmouth character who shouts, it's like I'm watching The Goonies, but without the enjoyability that the Chunk character brought to The Goonies.  And just like the goonies cast, there's an inventor in this movie too, too bad he only knows how to make firecrackers.

The ending of the movie is the actual problem, but I don't want to spoil it.  That having been said, I still don't advise anyone to watch this movie.  I give this movie a 2 out of 5.  It was really great, and then it was just so, so bad.  If it weren't for the ending, it would have been a good movie.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on May 19, 2014, 03:11:16 PM
i agree the ending could have been better. To me it was a modern day goonies. Just rehashed
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on May 23, 2014, 03:52:18 PM
I reviewed this on the other site and my sentiment stands; this film was stinko
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on July 27, 2014, 09:11:46 PM
I had no idea that Mad Max was being rebooted by the guy that did them all in the first place...anyway, here's the first trailer for Mad Max: Fury Road.

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on July 28, 2014, 04:00:32 PM
yea, looking forward to this.  they were to film this and a sequel at the same time
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on August 03, 2014, 08:26:23 PM
Guardians of the Galaxy
Chris Pratt, Zoe Saldana, Bautista

It seems like Marvel Studios simply can't miss these days, with the likes of Thor, Captain America, The Avengers, Iron Man, Amazing Spider-Man, and X-Men all turning into major hits at the theatres. Most of them have even been enjoyable (ignores Iron Man 2). But I'll be honest, when I heard this got the green light I thought: what the f*ck? As with most Marvel releases though, I'll give it a shot...and I'm glad I did. The director does a good job of explaining the characters and their back stories, and I thought everyone was well cast (even the voices: Bradley Cooper, Vin Diesel, and Josh Brolin). Chris Pratt really does steal the show, though.

4 out of 5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on August 04, 2014, 12:23:26 AM
Guardians of the Galaxy
Chris Pratt, Zoe Saldana, Bautista

It seems like Marvel Studios simply can't miss these days, with the likes of Thor, Captain America, The Avengers, Iron Man, Amazing Spider-Man, and X-Men all turning into major hits at the theatres. Most of them have even been enjoyable (ignores Iron Man 2). But I'll be honest, when I heard this got the green light I thought: what the f*ck? As with most Marvel releases though, I'll give it a shot...and I'm glad I did. The director does a good job of explaining the characters and their back stories, and I thought everyone was well cast (even the voices: Bradley Cooper, Vin Diesel, and Josh Brolin). Chris Pratt really does steal the show, though.

4 out of 5

+1 to what norm said, I will add, that this movie seemed closer to a star wars type of movie than a super hero movie. Awesome movie, I would give a 4.5 out of 5.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on October 07, 2014, 10:01:40 PM
http://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/actors-play-incredible-versions-joker/

Never thought about Matt but I think he would make a great one. The others....maybe..
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Sakura on October 08, 2014, 06:01:44 AM
http://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/actors-play-incredible-versions-joker/

Never thought about Matt but I think he would make a great one. The others....maybe..

I dunno, we've had two perfect Jokers already, one of them is still alive, I think we should make use of him.  And what I mean is...  Mark Hamill.  The guy's been portraying the Joker for like 30 or more years now, and when people think of the Joker, they typically think of Mark's voice first, and then Heath's face second.  That's how I see it myself, really.  Simply put, Hamill has been doing a great job of the gig for so long now, even if you don't have him dress up as the Joker, I think having his voice be part of the role would be the best way to go about doing the Joker.

Not only has Hamill done the voice of the Joker in the animated series and the movies, he also does the voice of the joker in the Arkham series of video games.  The guy obviously loves the role, all he needs is a chance to do it.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: thaima1shu on November 05, 2014, 04:09:43 PM
Interstellar

This was a cool ass movie. Saw it last night on IMAX 70mm. If you have a real IMAX theater near you, do what you can to make sure you check it out there. Amazing visuals and Matthew McConaughey was incredible.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on November 07, 2014, 08:47:21 PM
Nightcrawler
Jake Gyllenhall, Rene Russo

This movie was alright, and Jake really had that creeper vibe nailed down (even I got creeped out in a couple of spots). Dragged in a couple of spots but overall not bad. Not the greatest date movie in the world though.  :P
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on November 10, 2014, 06:12:05 PM
I simply cannot buy into Jake, no matter what he does.
And while Im here, Edge of Tomorrow; above average, see it
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Rigg44 on November 24, 2014, 03:16:22 PM
I simply cannot buy into Jake, no matter what he does.
And while Im here, Edge of Tomorrow; above average, see it

Agree with the exception of bubble boy :)
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on December 29, 2014, 04:57:45 PM
X-Men: Days of Future Past
James McAvoy, Michael Fassbender, Jennifer Lawrence, Hugh Jackman, Sir Patrick Stewart, Sir Ian McKellan

Pretty ambitious getting the casts from the original X-Men to team up with the new group, but the story works for it here (of course it does, it's a comic book movie). Besides, X-Men: First Class was pretty good and this one doesn't disappoint as a sequel.

3.5 out of 5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on January 02, 2015, 02:07:45 AM
A script by Nicholas Pileggi (Goodfellas, Casino) about mobster Gregory Scarpa, is set to be produced by Irwin Winkler and directed by Brad Furman.
As a lover of all things mafia, I'm hoping this one turns out well, even with Stallone as the lead
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 12, 2015, 09:22:37 PM

New Avengers: Age of Ultron trailer just dropped. Oh my.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: thaima1shu on January 12, 2015, 11:06:20 PM
Must resist watching that. Don't want to see too much!
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on January 13, 2015, 04:24:57 PM
Hulk Buster Armor. I gotta say I know nothing of why its there, (never read Iron man comics, was a spidey geek)   but I look forward to the reasons. I do know they altered the origin of Ultron. Just like they did with Starlord. But I can live with it.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on July 31, 2017, 01:29:14 PM
is this the only movie thread we have? Mustve been buried by the TV thread...

In any event, just came her to say I took to the theater yesterday to see Fast Times at Ridgemoint High and it was just as fun as the other numerous times I viewed it on the big screen.
These Fathom Events are quite fun in order to relive old classics. They bring them back on anniversaries for two days, Sunday and Tuesday...which means you can still hit Fast Times if you want.
We went for Smokey and the Bandit erlier this year, the Godfather...Bonnie and Clyde is coming up as is the Princess Bride.
tickets are expensive, like 13 bucks, but I guess if you like it, you spend it.
Here's a link to the rest of this years releases.

https://www.fathomevents.com/series/tcm-big-screen-classics
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Sakura on July 31, 2017, 04:23:07 PM
is this the only movie thread we have? Mustve been buried by the TV thread...

In any event, just came her to say I took to the theater yesterday to see Fast Times at Ridgemoint High

Is it 1982? :D
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on July 31, 2017, 06:19:37 PM
I hear that movie splash is going to be good. I think that Tom Hanks guy will be a superstar actor in the years to come   :D
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on August 01, 2017, 11:51:08 AM
is this the only movie thread we have? Mustve been buried by the TV thread...

In any event, just came her to say I took to the theater yesterday to see Fast Times at Ridgemoint High

Is it 1982? :D

I wish it was, so many things to enjoy again, not to mention, do overs!
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on August 01, 2017, 11:53:53 AM
I hear that movie splash is going to be good. I think that Tom Hanks guy will be a superstar actor in the years to come   :D

lol oh the 80's
Title: Re: The Movie thread
Post by: Crewe on September 09, 2017, 04:58:47 PM
Emma Stone as BJK and Steve Carell as Bobby Riggs


Dubbed the battle of the sexes, this event put women's tennis on the map and was a pinnacle moment in the women's movement.
Looks fairly light hearted with some decent Carell moments but I think I'll pass.
I'd be curious though if there's a movie about the Williams sisters mouthing off and getting trounced on the court?
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on September 09, 2017, 04:59:57 PM
Oh btw norm, watched Deadpool today finally so I'm no longer an outsider 😎
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 30, 2017, 01:43:15 PM
Atomic Blonde
Charlize Theron James McAvoy John Goodman

It didn't take much for me to watch this as Ive been a fan of Theron since forever.
This is a Cold War spy flick taking place in East/West Berlin in the 80's, complete with European 80's soundtrack.
Theron is sent to Berlin to recover a top secret list containing an absurd amount of info on all the spies in Europe (I know, I thought MI immediately)
by MI6.
Told not to trust anyone, she's isolated immediately despite meeting her handler upon arriving, James McAvoy, who incidentally, also turned in a good performance. It sorta reminded of Edward Norton in The Italian Job at times.
Ive heard folks say this is her version of John Wick, also a good flick btw, and I somewhat agree except that the story, which is a retread of the spy genre is much better than JW.
Theron does a wonderful job and really brings a believable character to the screen.
It avoids the Bourne like choreography and sits in a bit more realism ala JW.with its combat style.
Good cinematography and some wonderfully creative directed scenes make this a wanna watch. I won't say must see but certainly an enthralling and entertaining ride.


4/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on October 30, 2017, 02:09:54 PM
I wanted to see that and just never made it to the theater. Good to hear it's enjoyable.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on November 02, 2017, 05:08:38 PM
Used my MoviePass today for the first time. Went and saw American Made, which I enjoyed for what it was. But boy, this MoviePass thing is awesome
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on November 03, 2017, 05:18:01 PM
 thought American Made was good. Wasn't accurate but close enough for a movie.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on November 03, 2017, 07:50:52 PM
Yeah, I mean, for what it was, the changes worked. I did like that they changed the inciting incident at the end from an article to a photo (definitely checked out the Wikipedia entry after, I had never heard of Seal's story).
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on November 03, 2017, 07:58:14 PM
oh yea? You shut read up on him if you're into that culture. Me? I love that stuff. Mark Bowden's book on Escobar was phenomenal (Blackhawk Down too) but doesn't touch on Seal much, if it all.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on November 06, 2017, 10:45:55 PM
Anyone see thor yet?
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on November 07, 2017, 11:23:22 AM
Thor was outright hilarious. Plot takes a bit of a backseat to the jokes and acting, but that's fine. If you enjoy the Marvel movies you'll definitely enjoy this one and it's definitely far superior to the other two Thor movies.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: thaima1shu on November 07, 2017, 11:44:56 AM
Agreed, I thought it was amazing. Incredibly funny and entertaining throughout. I enjoyed the first two Thor movies, but this one was a huge step up I feel like.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on November 08, 2017, 04:39:48 PM
nice thanks guys
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Sakura on November 08, 2017, 10:38:18 PM
Finally a Thor movie that wasn't bland and uninteresting.  Red Letter Media was right, I can't remember anything that happened in Thor 2.  I do remember the first one, though.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on November 12, 2017, 05:22:37 PM
What some of the others have said: Ragnarok was really good and well done. Funny and well-paced throughout. Not quite sure I'd put it on a level with the first Thor (which I really enjoyed), easily miles ahead of the second one which was okay but forgettable.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on November 29, 2017, 09:58:08 PM
OMG I CAN'T WAIT


...well, I can a little bit because I know at the end of the Infinity War movies this ensemble cast goes bye. But damn, I can't wait for this or Black Panther (which drops in February).
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Post by: TheNorm on March 16, 2018, 11:31:52 AM
Tickets already acquired for Thursday night...I can't f'ing wait.

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Post by: BojackHorsefella on March 16, 2018, 12:03:40 PM
Mine too. That last shot of Cap...goosebumps.
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Post by: BojackHorsefella on April 26, 2018, 12:39:47 PM
So...........who's all going tonight?
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on May 01, 2018, 08:57:41 PM
So...........who's all going tonight?

A few days late since I was out of town and too lazy to login on my phone, but I did...and Friday night too. :)
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on May 01, 2018, 10:25:06 PM
So...........who's all going tonight?

A few days late since I was out of town and too lazy to login on my phone, but I did...and Friday night too. :)

I have to wait two years for the crowds to thin so my girlfriend can go before I go see it again.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on May 01, 2018, 11:15:17 PM
me and the kids will head there friday i think.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on May 29, 2018, 08:55:19 PM
So uh I know Ive mentioned this here somewhere before never received closure, so Im trying again.

Training Day
Call this a plothole observation if you will, but I have questions. A friend recently commented on this movie recently and it opened up an old wound as Ive never been given a satisfactory explanation for the following, and Ill spoiler tag this just in case....
Spoiler: show

Alonzo meets his team on a parking garage rooftop. He introduces Jake and then instructs on of his guys to obtain picks and shovels from police maintenance and emphasized that he sign them out properly.
They proceed to Roger's abode and tell him he's being taxed, when we know Alonzo is robbing him to pay off the Russians.
Immediately after, the guys tear up his kitchen floor with said tools and meanwhile Alonzo is constantly smoking, putting out butts all over the floor. This seems benign but wait...
Once they skim his stash, they plan to leave the rest for "evidence" as a result of their serving a warrant.
Now, Alonzo kills Roger, sets up Hoyt for it and to make it look good, he shoots his own team member which was planned, but accidentally misses the vest. So they get their story straight and call it in, "officer down" which we all know brings a shitstorm of cops in seconds.
So here's my problem(s):
Who, pray tell, will Alonzo say dug up the floor? He cant say he did it, because, when would he have achieved that feat? According to the "story" the gang enters, Roger shoots a cop, Jake kills Roger, and they phone it in immediately.
If he says Roger dug up his own floor...well, why, first of all. Secondly, why are Alonzo's Kool's all over the floor.
Then there are the tools his man 'signed out" which have no role in this as far as I can tell.
Any rookie cop would smell a rat instantly in my mind.
Ive had people tell me it was Roger who did the digging, so the story would go, but they cannot elaborate.
Alonzo has crooked connections and we know, per the restaurant scene, corruption is wide spread. However, an officer down call with such a high dollar seizure is going to be under a microscope by the brass and even Alonzo doesn't have the scope to cover that mess.
So, tell me what the hell so I can get some sleep.

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on May 29, 2018, 09:51:44 PM
I suppose the guy could've dug up the floor to bury his money or retrieve previously buried money, if he was a crook or being framed as one.

As for the cigarettes, stress smoking because a member of his team got shot, maybe, as an excuse?
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on May 29, 2018, 10:25:09 PM
I suppose the guy could've dug up the floor to bury his money or retrieve previously buried money, if he was a crook or being framed as one.

As for the cigarettes, stress smoking because a member of his team got shot, maybe, as an excuse?

He certainly was a known drug dealer, but it just doesn't gel, especially with the way the scene unfolds and how Roger was killed.
The cigarette smoking was almost methodical and wouldn't suggest it was stress over a cops shooting, again, based on where they were and how it happened, not to mention how fast police would have arrived. I doubt he could've puffed out that many lol
It seems like Im resisting, but really, I just hope someone can make my aha light illuminate because I really liked this movie but for some reason Ive latched on to this scene and it wont go away. I think ive complicated a scene that was intended to be much simpler lol
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on June 06, 2018, 10:35:44 AM
https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-new-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse-trailer-is-un-1825337489

This and Mission Impossible: Fallout may be my most anticipated movies of the year.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on June 06, 2018, 11:58:04 AM
That Spidey trailer is legit.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on June 07, 2018, 06:07:02 PM
Anyone see Deadpool 2 yet? It was good. If you liked 1, you will like 2 i think. They expanded the universe to have an XForce movie like the Xmen. They copied MCU pretty good. DC should take notes on how to develop characters.  I gotta admit, I watched suicide squad twice just because i could not believe how awful it was.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on June 09, 2018, 09:01:47 AM
Really looking forward to this.

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on June 09, 2018, 09:32:26 AM
Looking forward to this too, and thank goodness they are ignoring all sequels and building off the original.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on June 20, 2018, 11:39:18 PM
Was a little worried when I found out Ryan Coogler wasn't directing this sequel, but this trailer has me a bit excited now. First movie was excellent.


Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on June 21, 2018, 12:01:12 AM
Yea first one was really good. It may seem cheesy for the casual observer to write it off because, Drago, but they can really make this a great film..
"You don't think I can beat him" was a wonderful callback to Mick. I really love the Creed Balboa storyline extending beyond those two. Really amped for this one.
Oh, and didn't you love the nod to Ali, shadow boxing underwater? Good stuff so far
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on June 21, 2018, 10:17:09 AM
The first one was so good.

I'm a little disappointed we're rehashing the Drago thing, but I can see where it makes sense for Creed's personal story. I know we'll see Dolph Lundgren in this film too (which, honestly, how was the elder Drago not murdered after losing to Rocky?)

Considering they flirted with it last film, I'm also worried about having a Rocky dying plot in this film or the next (wouldn't be surprised to see them do it in a third movie, considering how they like to pull stuff from the originals).

Don't get me wrong, I'll be there day one, I just would've liked a more original storyline, but I guess you can only do "underdog boxer fights his way to champion" so many times.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on June 21, 2018, 12:04:03 PM
Thats kinda what I was referencing, writing it off because of Drago. I still think it can be an original storyline, but realizing we are in the Rocky universe.
I think it will be a great story, or at least Im hopeful.
Agree that I really hope they don't kill Rocky off, I mean you can tell its heading that way and as you say, pulling from the original, but Id rather it not happen.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on June 21, 2018, 04:42:52 PM
Incredibles 2 is a good film.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on June 30, 2018, 02:06:58 PM
Had some time to kill lately so...

Ready Player One was pretty damn good-not as good as the book (what else is new) but still enjoyable. Like the book, still a ton of 80s nostalgia to see and Steven Spielberg was more than likely the perfect person to direct this. 3.75/5

Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom builds on the first reboot and was a ton of fun to watch. Good story, good pace. 4.25/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on June 30, 2018, 02:39:58 PM
Had some time to kill lately so...

Ready Player One was pretty damn good-not as good as the book (what else is new) but still enjoyable. Like the book, still a ton of 80s nostalgia to see and Steven Spielberg was more than likely the perfect person to direct this. 3.75/5

Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom builds on the first reboot and was a ton of fun to watch. Good story, good pace. 4.25/5


Boy, I wish I shared your opinion about either of these. I two started both. :(
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on July 01, 2018, 01:17:21 PM
Two started?

You and I were probably just looking for different things out of both of them.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: thaima1shu on July 01, 2018, 11:40:10 PM
I'm with Norm on both of those movies.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on July 01, 2018, 11:47:43 PM
Weirdos.

Let me further ruin my creditibility, then, and recommend Uncle Drew. Don't expect much from it, but think of it like a 90 minute SNL skit and you can temper your expectations accordingly. But it's fun, got some heart to it, and it's worth it for some of the more tailored to the NBA jokes.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on July 02, 2018, 08:51:25 AM
Uncle Drew looks hilarious and has been on my list to see.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: thaima1shu on July 30, 2018, 11:55:03 AM
Mission Impossible: Fallout

I really enjoyed Ghost Protocol and Rogue Nation, so the hype levels for this were through the roof. Expectations were met and somehow wildly exceeded. The action and stunts in this one were so suspenseful and well done. Tom Cruise continues to step it up with each one and you can tell how much he puts into these. It's really impressive how he does so many of these stunts himself. The story/writing were solid as well. Overall, this is one of my favorite action movies I've ever seen.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on July 30, 2018, 12:49:51 PM
I cannot wait to see this. I keep seeing it compared to Mad Max: Fury Road, because apparently the first 10 minutes set up the story and stakes, and the rest is just pure action.

Which, considering it's all recurring characters from the last movie, including the bad guy, that makes sense. We know who they are and what they want already, so just set them out to do it. Brilliant.

That being said, apparently MoviePass is blocking all showings right now. Partially (mostly?) because they don't have any cash to cover the ticket costs, I ALSO believe they may have been trying to show movie theaters how much they need MoviePass, but considering Fallout is already doing gangbusters at the box office that doesn't seem to be the case.

Anyways. I opened the app and it's still blocked today. I've got 6 movies I have to see this week with kiddo before he leaves on Sunday (Teen Titans Go, Blindspotting, The Meg (early screening at Alderwood Mall), Christopher Robin and The Miseducation of Cameron Post), so I'm aiming for Thursday for Fallout hoping MoviePass will quit being dicks. If not, I'll switch to AMC A-List that day, since my MoviePass expires in November anyway (and I refuse to pay for surge pricing if I sign back up, so that wasn't gonna happen anyway).

Although, with MoviePass looking like it's about to die, I have 0 idea what to do for kiddo (I bought him his own MoviePass back in, January or February, I think). He has no AMC near him in Myrtle Beach and the only other option is Sinemia, which is like $35 a month for 3 tickets. In SC, where he can get a ticket for like, 7 or 8 dollars, that's not a good deal.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on August 03, 2018, 05:14:45 PM
Ok, everyone chime in and give me one good movie suggestion for this weekend.
Can be anything. If its a series, id prefer to go to the beginning, unless Ive seen it already.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on August 03, 2018, 05:46:06 PM
Blindspotting. No hesitation. My movie of the year right now.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on August 06, 2018, 11:53:12 AM
I should have clarified, a stay at home movie.
So I picked BladeRunner 2049
Such a visually stunning picture.The world was especially well crafted without being overstated such as the prequel SW films. On top of that, the story was immersive, and, Ryan Gosling and Harrison Ford, that should be enough. But add Robin Wright and Jared Leto and you have a deeper cast to tell this amazing story.
Unlike most sequels, this one felt like it wrote itself naturally, just an instinctive cycle of humans, not forced or amped up in any fashion.
The first Blade Runner was panned somewhat because it was expected to be an action flick and the so called mundane nature of the film didn't still well with some critics or fans but, later and deservedly so, it became so well received because it wasn't a popcorn action flick. Well, 2049 holds to that same standard.
Ill also add that when you see this one, assuming you saw the original, the worlds also seem to naturally blend. Going back to the SW example. We saw EP IV, then along came EP I and your first thought was, the same worlds don't even look the same now, no continuity. BR holds that thread between films IMO.
Watch the first one if you haven't, then watch this one. If you have seen the original, watch it again, then watch this one
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on August 06, 2018, 12:02:55 PM
I liked 2049. Felt it was a bit long and I'm not sure it had the same focus as the first film, but like you said, visually it was absolutely stunning and a seamless transition from its predecessor, and of course all of the acting is on point.

When kiddo and I saw Dunkirk, we saw it in 70mm film at the Cinerama in Seattle, and they played a 2049 trailer. Made me REALLY wish they'd had a film version of that come out because it looked amazing up there on the screen.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on August 06, 2018, 12:15:01 PM
Agreed for sure
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on August 11, 2018, 10:55:16 PM
Tomb Raider (2018)

First things first, this was a better film than the Jolie version IMO.
That said, this was still an average movie. Alicia Vikander (Ex Machina) was quite good as Lara and handled the action well. She was believable as the young Croft but the story let her down as did some of the special effects.
It started out on a high note, but it just sloped downhill from then on with a few saving grace scenes peppered in here and there.
Despite some tense moments, albeit cliche ones, the movie just left me sorta meh. I didn't hate it, but Vikander was the best thing about it, although McNulty brought some weight to it as well.

3/5

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on August 13, 2018, 11:46:29 AM
Saw BlacKKKlansman on Saturday. It was very good and everyone should go see it. That is all.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on August 13, 2018, 12:05:42 PM
Tomb Raider (2018)

First things first, this was a better film than the Jolie version IMO.
That said, this was still an average movie. Alicia Vikander (Ex Machina) was quite good as Lara and handled the action well. She was believable as the young Croft but the story let her down as did some of the special effects.
It started out on a high note, but it just sloped downhill from then on with a few saving grace scenes peppered in here and there.
Despite some tense moments, albeit cliche ones, the movie just left me sorta meh. I didn't hate it, but Vikander was the best thing about it, although McNulty brought some weight to it as well.

3/5

will add this to the watch list then
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on August 21, 2018, 12:16:56 PM
I guess I could look it up, but Ill just ask, whats the order I should watch the MU films?
Ive seen a couple, the last being Civil War I think, Iron Man v Captain America. Any that I can skip? I know theres a shitload of them and don't think I need to see every single one, do I?
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on August 21, 2018, 12:32:44 PM
I guess I could look it up, but Ill just ask, whats the order I should watch the MU films?
Ive seen a couple, the last being Civil War I think, Iron Man v Captain America. Any that I can skip? I know theres a shitload of them and don't think I need to see every single one, do I?

So, as far as, if you were to watch all of them, I'd say just do it in order. Obviously with the after-credit scenes and some times little snippets that pull from the movies that came before, it just makes sense to do so.

As far as any you can skip...honestly, Thor II is pretty awful although it does introduce one of the Infinity Stones. Also Dr. Strange is pretty forgettable as a whole but it too introduces an Infinity Stone, actually has a clever ending and Strange ended up being one of the best elements of Infinity War.

Iron Man 2 is pretty skippable, I think. No infinity stone in that one, it introduces Black Widow but besides that...........there's not really much consequential. Unless you want to know how Rhodey becomes War Machine. Although the scene with the suitcase armor is still one of the MCU's best.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on August 21, 2018, 12:39:14 PM
It's BARELY an MCU film (although one character, outside of Hulk, does reoccur in Civil War and Infinity War) but The Incredible Hulk is pretty skippable as well.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on August 21, 2018, 01:04:30 PM
Ive seen Iron Man 2 and Hulk, never saw the first Thor, just not a fan the character but maybe I will.
Watched the first Deadpool but neither Spider Man.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on August 21, 2018, 01:19:42 PM
Well Deadpool and the Andrew Garfield and Tobey McGuire Spider-Men aren't MCU. Deadpool is Fox and McGuire-Garfield were Sony. Technically Tom Holland is Sony too but they made a deal with Marvel which allows them to co-produce his movies and allows Marvel to use Spider-Man in stuff like Civil War and Infinity War.

Thor's good. The first one is actually pretty good, even though they abandon that awful hair and eyebrows and sort of his whole personality over the course of the rest of the MCU. Thor went from serious, Shakespearean, to sort of funny in the first Avengers, to...sort of funny, sort of serious in Thor II, to whatever was going on in Age of Ultron, all the way to Thor: Ragnarok, perhaps the funniest MCU film.

And then somehow tied it all back together in Infinity War. So, yeah. Thor II may be awful, but Thor, as Chris Hemsworth portrays him, is one of the best parts of the MCU.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on August 21, 2018, 05:29:47 PM
I guess I could look it up, but Ill just ask, whats the order I should watch the MU films?
Ive seen a couple, the last being Civil War I think, Iron Man v Captain America. Any that I can skip? I know theres a shitload of them and don't think I need to see every single one, do I?

I think they all are worthy except for the Fantastic 4 films and spider man 3.

The spiderman films like Buc said arent MCU, but are still fun. (Also ignore spiderman 3)

You could skip Ant man, but it is a fun movie.
XMen are not MCU (as buc mentioned) but again fun. I would start at the McAvoy films and watch those, they basically retcon the first 3 Xmen movies and they werent as good.

Deadpool is awesome

Here are the ones i would watch (based on my enjoyment)

Iron man
Hulk (edward norton)
Thor
Captn America
Avengers (1st one)
Winter Soldier Guardians of the Galaxy
Civil War
Dr Strange
Guardians 2
Spiderman HJomecoming
Ragnarok
Black Panther
Infinty War

Most of the other are good to ok also (avengers 2 was so so) the Iron man Sequels left a lot to be desired.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on August 22, 2018, 01:20:53 AM
I guess I could look it up, but Ill just ask, whats the order I should watch the MU films?
Ive seen a couple, the last being Civil War I think, Iron Man v Captain America. Any that I can skip? I know theres a shitload of them and don't think I need to see every single one, do I?

I think they all are worthy except for the Fantastic 4 films and spider man 3.

The spiderman films like Buc said arent MCU, but are still fun. (Also ignore spiderman 3)

You could skip Ant man, but it is a fun movie.
XMen are not MCU (as buc mentioned) but again fun. I would start at the McAvoy films and watch those, they basically retcon the first 3 Xmen movies and they werent as good.

Deadpool is awesome

Here are the ones i would watch (based on my enjoyment)

Iron man
Hulk (edward norton)
Thor
Captn America
Avengers (1st one)
Winter Soldier Guardians of the Galaxy
Civil War
Dr Strange
Guardians 2
Spiderman HJomecoming
Ragnarok
Black Panther
Infinty War

Most of the other are good to ok also (avengers 2 was so so) the Iron man Sequels left a lot to be desired.

That helps guys, thanks.
Using the list above, through Guardians 2, I've seen them all except Thor and Dr Strange.
I didn't realize I'd seen so many.
Wasn't there another Spuderman before Homecoming?
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on August 22, 2018, 10:47:44 AM
There were 3 Toby McGuire Spider man movies

then Sony rebooted the franchise with Garfield. 2 movies both were pretty good, not excellent.

They tried to start a sinister 6 story line. It did well at the box office. But not MCU well. So Sony went to Marvel and rebooted Spidey a 3rd time. So far there are 6 spiderman movies. Homecoming is MCU cannon
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on August 22, 2018, 10:59:59 AM
Spider-Man debuted in the MCU in Civil War, so maybe that's what you're thinking of Crewe.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on August 22, 2018, 11:37:56 AM
There were 3 Toby McGuire Spider man movies

then Sony rebooted the franchise with Garfield. 2 movies both were pretty good, not excellent.

They tried to start a sinister 6 story line. It did well at the box office. But not MCU well. So Sony went to Marvel and rebooted Spidey a 3rd time. So far there are 6 spiderman movies. Homecoming is MCU cannon
wait, Im confused.
3 McGuire films
Reboot with 2 Garfield films
And then Homecoming with a first appearance in Civil War, that right?
Im lost with the 3rd reboot comment.

And buc, thats exactly what it was now that you mention it, thanks
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on August 22, 2018, 12:00:49 PM
Just numbers confusion. It was the second time Spidey got rebooted, the third actual iteration though (McGuire-Garfield-Holland).
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on August 22, 2018, 12:30:30 PM
now Im up to speed lol
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on August 27, 2018, 11:56:40 AM
Top 5 Last Line(s) in a Movie

1. The Godfather - "Don Corleone."

2. Jaws - "I used to hate the water."

3. Shawshank Redemption - "I hope the Pacific is as blue as it is in my dreams. I hope."

4. The Usual Suspects - "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist. And like that – poof – he’s gone!”

5. Chinatown - "Forget it, Jake, it's Chinatown." (I uh...have never actually seen this, and at some point I REALLY need to correct that, but I can still recognize it's an iconic line).
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on August 27, 2018, 02:02:29 PM
We did this a while back, but Ill play again...

Im sure mine have changed since there are so many great ones

Seven
Ernest Hemingway once wrote, "The world is a fine place and worth fighting for. I agree with the second part.

Clockwork Orange
I was cured all right

Goodfellas
Right after I got here, I ordered some spaghetti with marinara sauce and I got egg noodles and ketchup. I'm an average nobody. I get to live the rest of my life like a schnook.

Magnum Force
A man's got to know his limitations

And uh, point of order, but that is not the last line in Jaws IIRC. Hooper follows with, I cant imagine why.
But I get the spirit of the question so with that, Ill follow suit and add this gem from the original Bad News Bears which is also the second to last line...
Hey Yankees, take your trophy AND your apology and shove it straight up your ass,
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on August 27, 2018, 02:13:38 PM
Oh, did we? I thought it may have seemed familiar as I was posting it, haha.

Also meant to put this in the Top Five thread but that was a swing and a miss too, evidently.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on August 27, 2018, 02:31:43 PM
and Ill add on where I did see your original post said last line(s) so disregard my haughty observation lol
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on September 02, 2018, 02:47:51 PM
I get two free movies in 4k off of my TV, so which should I choose?
I noted ones with No that ive seen or dont want to see

Spider Man Homecoming
Amazing Spider Man 1 and 2
Passengers
Long Halftime Walk
Inferno
The Shallows NO
5th Wave NO
Concussion
Captain Phillips NO
Elysium
Battle: Los Angeles
Moneyball NO
Taxi Driver; seen it but might still be an option here
Trainspotting
Underworld Blood Wars
Chappie
Ghostbusters female version NOOOOOO
Rough Night
Life
Dark Tower
Close Encounters
Baby Driver NO
Flatliners (new one and NOOOOOOO)
Dracula
Only the Brave
All the money in the world
Jumanji
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on September 02, 2018, 03:31:49 PM
Honestly, for the 4K aspect of it, I'm obliged to lean towards action movies like the Spider-Man films.

For that, depends on what you want. Combination of Jumanji (I'm assuming it's the new one) gives you a great film that's really fun and extremely funny, pair that with Homecoming and you have the latest iteration of Spider-Man and the most "canon" one as he actually belongs to the MCU.

If you don't care about the MCU but like Spider-Man, the 2 for 1 value of both Amazing Spider-Man films paired with Jumanji is probably the best value. I like the 2nd Amazing Spider-Man, it's mindless and full of plot holes but it really feels like a comic book movie. The first ones a bit more dull but Dennis Leary is great in it and I like Garfield and Emma Stone.

My 2 cents.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on September 02, 2018, 05:50:39 PM
Yea, I agree, so Homecoming is a lock. Jumanji isn't me I dont think, nor the other 2 SM flicks.
I think Im down to All the money in the world, Concussion, Elysium, Taxi Driver or Baby Driver again.
All but the last two seem sort of tepid, but Ill let it marinate and see what comes to pass.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on September 03, 2018, 12:51:28 PM
Spiderman Homecoming
Im sure everyone has seen this, but spoilers anyway...
Spoiler: show

This one was fun and for a reboot it was better than Maguire's version
While cheesy at times and with quite a predictable story it does a good job of developing the Spiderman character.
This film doesn't take itself too seriously which adds to the charm and likability. I thought Karen was a bit much in the long run but otherwise a fun romp.
I also liked the fact that the death of Ben Parker wasnt dwelled on like it was in Maguire's Spiderman, it just felt off as a motivation.
Jon Favreau on screen doesn't work well for me even though I know Im probably in the minority there.
But I will say the bathroom scene at the end of the film was perfect juxtaposition and timing, best laugh of the movie for me.
I didnt get too much out of the sidekick but I guess thats just to be accepted, and as an aside, Laura Harrier is 28 years old?  :o
One last item; Im really indifferent about it, and I understand the MU universe is merged with ours to a slight degree, but a completely robotic Iron Man? It just seems to create such unseemly possibilities. But thats me, and I digress.

Overall good flick, looking forward to 2.

3.75/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on September 03, 2018, 04:05:38 PM
There have been completely robotic Iron Men since at least Oron Man 3. Also featured on Age of Ultron.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on September 03, 2018, 05:35:24 PM
yea I realize that, but still doesn't mean Im on board completely ;-)
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on September 23, 2018, 08:09:32 PM
Solo

When this was announced I was against it. After Ive seen it, Im still against it.
Ill concede it was better than I thought it would be and Ron Howard and Woody Harrelson had more to do with that than anything.
When it was first reported Alden Ehrenreich was Solo, it was obvious to me, other than the fact we didnt need this story, that this wasn't going to work.
Nothing against him, but he wasn't Solo and its not all his fault. Harrison Ford created a character you cannot replicate. His "it" factor cannot be bottled and this much was obvious. The guy we see in this flick was not Solo. Sure, at times there were flashes of the substance of his character, but then again not really.
If you are immersed in the SW universe, then yes, see it, thats why I did. If not, dont waste your time.
Again, it wasn't horrible and its still better than any of the prequels, although not by much over III, but if its raining outside and you have access to Dominos, give it a go.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on September 30, 2018, 12:45:18 PM
This looks better the closer it gets, and I can't wait. I hope they can keep up the story that Ryan Coogler started with the first one.

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on September 30, 2018, 11:22:22 PM
He broke things in me that aint never gonna be fixed
That Rocky/Drago stare down was epic!
Loved the nod to Ali with the underwater training
Rocky is such a great character and Creed was a terrific film, I hope this one surpasses it!
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on October 03, 2018, 01:10:51 AM
He broke things in me that aint never gonna be fixed
That Rocky/Drago stare down was epic!
Loved the nod to Ali with the underwater training
Rocky is such a great character and Creed was a terrific film, I hope this one surpasses it!

That nod to Ali was incredible, and I love the music too; that orchestral cut with DMX is nice.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on October 09, 2018, 10:02:47 AM
Loved both Deadpool 2 and Ant-Man and the Wasp.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on October 09, 2018, 04:12:10 PM
Loved both Deadpool 2

The new ant man and black panther are still on my back log lol

Hearing good things about venom despite the critics so I bet it is decent
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on October 09, 2018, 05:39:10 PM
Loved both Deadpool 2

The new ant man and black panther are still on my back log lol

Hearing good things about venom despite the critics so I bet it is decent

Venom is....sort of a throwback to the Ghost Rider/Spawn/Daredevil/Blade days of superhero movies. The plot is basically incoherent, nothing anyone does makes any sense, but for about an hour, you get to watch Venom jump around and beat up bad guys, so, you know, if that's all you want, it's perfectly fine.

It just goes to show, just like Sony never really understood Spider-Man, they don't understand his roster either. I'm not saying it's not a fun movie, or not entertaining (that being said, I think it's worth a rental than theater prices), but it didn't do much for me.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on October 12, 2018, 07:18:50 PM
Loved both Deadpool 2

The new ant man and black panther are still on my back log lol

Hearing good things about venom despite the critics so I bet it is decent

Venom is....sort of a throwback to the Ghost Rider/Spawn/Daredevil/Blade days of superhero movies. The plot is basically incoherent, nothing anyone does makes any sense, but for about an hour, you get to watch Venom jump around and beat up bad guys, so, you know, if that's all you want, it's perfectly fine.

It just goes to show, just like Sony never really understood Spider-Man, they don't understand his roster either. I'm not saying it's not a fun movie, or not entertaining (that being said, I think it's worth a rental than theater prices), but it didn't do much for me.

cool thanks for the heads up
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on October 19, 2018, 02:04:19 PM
Everybody, do me a favor and go see Bad Night at the El Royale, because it is AMAZING, but it's an indie, and it's not a superhero movie or an established franchise, so it's not making any money and that's unfortunate. This is why we don't get original movies when people complain Hollywood doesn't make original movies anymore.

Bring friends!
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 19, 2018, 04:44:24 PM
I dont go to the theatre much but am really considering this and Halloween
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on October 19, 2018, 05:24:33 PM
I dont go to the theatre much but am really considering this and Halloween

I've got the AMC Stubs A-List, so I pay $20 a month and can see 3 movies a week for free (and, unlike the dying MoviePass, which I loved, this lets me order my seats online and see Dolby or IMAX at no extra cost). Saw First Man and El Royale last week, seeing The Hate U Give today, Old Man and the Gun tomorrow and Halloween on Sunday.

Haven't heard great things about Halloween, but, oh well. The soundtrack is enough for me to enjoy it as a whole, haha.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 19, 2018, 05:29:04 PM
Ive heard good things about it. I dont expect to be bowled over but Im cautiously optimistic
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 26, 2018, 10:42:44 PM
Can I just reiterate that Disney is killing the SW franchise by saturating us with films?
Just read a Bobba Fett film was nixed, and thank goodness for that.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on October 26, 2018, 11:11:53 PM
You can thank Solo's bad performance for that, and "The Mandalorian" tv show coming to Disney's streaming service. I agree with you though, nobody needed that movie.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 27, 2018, 02:18:32 PM
I refuse to thank Solo for anything lol
I was against the very idea. Id much rather have seen an Obi Wan film revolving around the Clone Wars if we had to have one.
After they finish up with Rey, they need to move out of the Skywalker franchise.
Hell, venture in to the Old Republic stories
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on November 04, 2018, 01:47:31 AM
Anyone see The Girl in a Spider's Web?

I hate to say this but after seeing the trailer, I'm seriously disappointed.
Lisbeth is now an action hero? Please.
Fincher's Dragon Tattoo was styled much closer to the book's character. This just seems like you could've called this movie generic action movie 4,322.

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on November 04, 2018, 10:55:14 AM
I think that's how the second book actually went though. More action, almost a superhero "avenging angel" kind of thing, lile Punisher. The movie does look like a Mission Impossible film, with Lisbeth as Ethan and her support as the rest of the IMF.

I just wish the trailer didn't spoil the entire movie, as it appears to do.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on November 05, 2018, 12:07:02 PM
I didn't read it, but if it did then Im really not interested because that is such a departure from what Larsson's character was in the books and other films.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on November 05, 2018, 12:46:37 PM
I didn't read it, but if it did then Im really not interested because that is such a departure from what Larsson's character was in the books and other films.

So, reading the wiki entry, I now see that this is apparently the FOURTH book, and was not written by Stieg. Although apparently it was received well. Which is a lot of words to say: actually I do not know.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on November 05, 2018, 06:39:40 PM
yea, he just did the first three, Im not interested much in the others right now.
If you see, read or get an informed opinion that might change mu mind let me know, but Im shelving it in the interim.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on November 06, 2018, 02:08:25 PM
https://film.avclub.com/the-girl-in-the-spider-s-web-pits-lisbeth-salander-agai-1830239792

This is one of the few sites whose reviews I trust (the others being io9, who usually only do fantasy or sci-fi movie reviews (or comic book movies), that's sort of their thing, but this may pop up on there. The other being Scott Mendelson, the Forbes movie reviewer.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2018/10/29/review-girl-in-the-spiders-web-claire-foy-lisbeth-salander-jason-bourne-james-bond-batman/#71fdc3942e82

Forgot Scott reviewed it, added the link here.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on November 06, 2018, 05:06:49 PM
yea A/V Club is about all I follow to.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on November 06, 2018, 05:35:42 PM
Got tickets to see it with the fiance on Saturday. Seeing Overlord on Sunday.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on December 08, 2018, 02:32:10 AM
Been awhile since I’ve done this...

Creed II
Michael B. Jordan, Sylvester Stallone, Tessa Thompson, Florian Munteanu, Dolph Lundgren, Phylicia Rashad

Steven Caple, Jr. takes over directing duties from Ryan Coogler and delivers a solid follow up to the incredible Creed. The Drago story was a nice touch and well done-really ties in the past with the present, covering what happens to Drago from Rocky IV while making sure it doesn’t overpower the story of the sons. This movie also does a nice job of focusing on family and how Adonis has to adjust the limelight and other things. Really enjoyable movie. 4.25 out of 5 stars

Also recently watched Equalizer 2 and Ocean’s 8; both were worth checking out but I’m not writing out a review on my 📱, this is a pain lol. 💩 Just go see them.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 08, 2018, 10:35:38 AM
Creed II definitely on my list. Oceans 8 I wrote off immediately ala the rebooted Ghostbusters. Its really worth checking out?
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on December 08, 2018, 11:49:33 AM
Creed II definitely on my list. Oceans 8 I wrote off immediately ala the rebooted Ghostbusters. Its really worth checking out?

It really was. Captures the spirit of the Ocean’s films before it and was done quite well. The ladies turned in some really good performances there.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on December 08, 2018, 12:49:27 PM
Oceans 8 was good. I wasn't a huge fan of the Ghostbusters movie (I haven't liked any Paul Feig movie, except Spy). Plus, I like those actresses but they're not on par with the originals.

Oceans 8, however, is more of a match. Bullock can match Clooney, Blanchette is just so cool, and the story is a lot closer to your typical Oceans movie than whatever the new Ghostbusters was trying to do (it was just a really, really badly written movie). I'd say it's definitely worth renting Oceans.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 08, 2018, 06:49:50 PM
Cool. Ill check it out then. And for the record, I did not intend to say O8 was equal trash to GB, I just didn't think it was in line with the other Oceans flicks.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on December 08, 2018, 06:52:22 PM
Cool. Ill check it out then. And for the record, I did not intend to say O8 was equal trash to GB, I just didn't think it was in line with the other Oceans flicks.

Wasn't trying to imply that you were, sorry if it came off that way. That film is, ahem, touchy, but it's failures isn't the cast's fault.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 08, 2018, 10:53:47 PM
Cool. Ill check it out then. And for the record, I did not intend to say O8 was equal trash to GB, I just didn't think it was in line with the other Oceans flicks.

Wasn't trying to imply that you were, sorry if it came off that way. That film is, ahem, touchy, but it's failures isn't the cast's fault.

oh, its cool, I didn't infer your post in that way, just thought I sounded a bit snarky initially lol

Re: Ghostbusters; not all their fault but it seemed hotly over acted though.
And the promotions of that film,, yea, I had a problem with that. Calling me a misogynistic pig because I didn't like your precious cheap knick off?
No, I didn't hate it because you were women, I hated it because it was a bad idea and it sucked on top of that.
After listening to their BS I was never happier a film became a laugh8ing stock, which it is...
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 09, 2018, 01:53:32 PM
So I watched the latest Thor and I didn't think Id like it, but I did despite it being over the top at points, even as a comic book movie.
Black Panther, not so much. I mean it was a great story but it just didn't seem to resonate with me.
Good flick, Im just not head over heals for it like everyone else appeared to be.
Infinity War is next, then I think Ill be caught up except some patchwork fill ins
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on December 09, 2018, 02:12:46 PM
So I watched the latest Thor and I didn't think Id like it, but I did despite it being over the top at points, even as a comic book movie.
Black Panther, not so much. I mean it was a great story but it just didn't seem to resonate with me.
Good flick, Im just not head over heals for it like everyone else appeared to be.
Infinity War is next, then I think Ill be caught up except some patchwork fill ins

Spider-Man: Homecoming?????? Or did you already see it?
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 09, 2018, 02:49:39 PM
yep, saw that one too. Im told I kinda need to see Ant Man, but I dunno...arent there two or three of them?
its amazing to me there are so many damn MU films. Aren't there like three or four Thor films? That blew me away too just because I saw him as a secondary MU character
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on December 09, 2018, 03:42:46 PM
3 Thor films, 3 Iron Man and 3 Cap (including Civil War which was Captain America: Civil War, even though it felt more like Avengers 2.5.

2 Guardians, 2 Ant Man's (watch the second AFTER Infinity War). the Ant-Man movies are worth it just for the cast.

Doctor Strange can be skipped. He plays a big role in IW, but, his movie is rough to get through.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on December 10, 2018, 12:31:21 PM
I don’t think you need to watch Doctor Strange before, but I do believe you need to see it. I was skeptical about it but actually felt it was well done.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 10, 2018, 02:05:19 PM
I just don't get in to Dr. Strange, but that not withstanding, I finished up Infinity War which I liked. Now I have to fit in the two Ant Man's and it felt like I need to patch some other holes, or maybe I need to re read plots of the ones Ive watched because I have a hard time keeping storylines together because there's so damn many films. If it's Star Wars, no problem, but for some reason Im not retaining Marvel lol

Btw, watched Oceans 8 as well. It was a decent flick, I wasn't enamored by it but it wasn't nearly as bad as I initially thought it was going to be. So thanks for the suggestion
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 10, 2018, 10:10:08 PM
Halloween (2018)
Jamie Lee Curtis

This Halloween is not a reboot but a sequel, and not a sequel to the other Halloween failures, but instead its a follow up to the original Carpenter masterpiece in 78. All those other films are not acknowledged in this feature.

Laurie Strode spent the years since the original readying herself for the return of Michael Myers, living, or existing as it were, in her survival dwelling estranged from her family.
Michael Myers, at this point is almost myth like in the sense the town and especially Laurie's family, don't really acknowledge those events.
So her daughter separated from Laurie at a young age after being unwilling to continue the survival training bestowed upon her by dear old mom.
Choosing a much sunnier disposition and a life with mom on the fringe was much more amiable.

Meanwhile, podcasters, while under the guise of do gooders, seek out Michael Myers for an interview before he is taken to a harsh institution void of any mental health such as the one the currently houses him.
While there is no mystery as to the story from here on out it is told in a surprisingly tense manner ala the original film.
The direction and cinematography capture the essence of the original Halloween without becoming a nostalgic trip, although, there is a nod or two back to carpenter's version.
The problem with slasher pics in general are plot holes, not necessarily to the story overall, but to a particular scene or scenes. This film is not without those flaws but it also absorbs those oversights and flourishes as a horror vehicle worthy of its predecessor.

The cast delivers a steady performance and Jamie Lee Curtis still carries weight as the tortured Laurie Strode.
This film is certainly worth a look.

3.75/5

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on December 10, 2018, 11:31:26 PM
It was better than I had expected, but I should have guessed since it had Carpenters blessing. He even did the music again.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on December 15, 2018, 02:26:10 PM
Just a heads up, the trailers weren't a lie, Spider-Man: Into The Spiderverse is AMAZING. My #3 movie of the year.

Seeing The Mule tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 15, 2018, 09:18:53 PM
Im optimistic about The Mule, but am hoping for Gran Torino Eastwood and not Trouble With the Curve Eastwood.

So, #3 eh? what, prey tell, are one and two?
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on December 15, 2018, 09:31:53 PM
Blindspotting and Eighth Grade, respectively.

I've got reviews for all the movies I've seen this year (I started off doing full reviews, now I just do a simple is it worth seeing gimmick). I also have a ranking of all the films I've seen this year:

My profile on Letterboxd https://letterboxd.com/Bucfever
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 16, 2018, 09:32:06 PM
So, I caught up on quite a bit of my Marvel quest. Now in th bag are both Ant Man movies and Age of Ulton which I realized I hadn't seen.
Only films I have not seen now are the first two Thor's (do I need to?) and Doctor Strange.

I can hardly recall anything from The First Avenger and Winter Soldier. The others I can recall better but still have only seen once.
If I were to do a run through refresh, which films would you deem important enough to see again, or do I need to see any three that I haven't thus far?
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 31, 2018, 10:01:39 PM
First Man
Ryan Gosling

The story of Neil Armstrong and his involvements in the Gemini and Apollo programs beginning as a test pilot.
Gosling gives a solid performance here backed up by a great performance by Kyle Chandler as Deke Slayton.
I would say spoilers ahead, but if you don't know the story by now, well, you're about to be spoiled.
Armstrong is calm and almost stoic in the face of doom and tragedy which he faces throughout this picture.
It begins with him losing his young daughter Karen to brain cancer and that is a theme running throughout the film. Hence we see unspoken tension amongst his family but all the while we know he is dealing with the tragedy of his brothers who perished in another Apollo test prior to the moon landing.
All in all, a really well done movie. The space scenes were tight and confined to replicate the astronauts conditions, coupled with the tension and anxiety of sudden problems all the way down to what one would deem a simple landing.
You would immediately compare the space scenes to Apollo 13 but this, although much more brief in stressfulness (13 was a film's worth) First Man had a bit of a different feel to it, not better or worse, just as effective, but different.
Personally, I didn't like the score revolving around the moon landing, it just didn't fit.
Secondly, all I heard was "the flag, the flag! as the US Flag was not planted. I reserved judgement because I wanted to see the film and now that I have....well, within the scene itself, I get why they didn't include that happening. It wasn't part of Armstrong's character or growth in this particular story.
That said, immediately after the landing we are shown the American Flag in celebratory scenes along with archived newsreels. In addition to, it was mentioned head on multiple ties in this movie that it was in fact a space race and that the Soviets were well ahead of us. So, with that being a fact, it doesn't make much sense to avoid the flag on the moon.
However, once you see it, I think you will feel just the way I do which is, it wasn't exactly pertinent to that particular scene which was more about Armstrong and his struggles than the United States space race.
Yes, have some

4/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 31, 2018, 10:14:14 PM
Steve Martin and Martin Short
An Evening You Will Forget For the Rest of Your Life

Im not usually one for these types of variety show specials but Im a huge Steve Martin fan and Martin Short as well, maybe not his movies so much, but he's a great talent and storyteller.
What you get here are Martin and Short playing off of each other for a segment, telling how they met on Three Amigos and then they set each other up to tell a few short pertinent stories followed by solo bits.
Martin Short does his broadway type singing off the cuff joke teller while Martin relies on his love of music, primarily the banjo.
His band joins in for a tune and its really good (you should check out Martin's music) then we close with the both of them going at it again.
It really is a fun romp that moves pretty quickly and worth a watch if you are a fan of either.
If you don't really like either one, its hard to say what you will think, but give it a look anyway and let me know.

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on December 31, 2018, 11:48:33 PM
Really wanted to see Martin and Short when they were in Seattle, but the timing wasn't right.

Also, loved First Man (for whatever it's worth, kiddo did too). I understand why "mainstream audiences" may have been turned off, as the Armstrong character is playing so incredibly stoic the whole time, there's always a distance kept between the audience and the main subject. But the story, and the absolute technical mastery in how the movie was shot, had me in awe.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on January 01, 2019, 04:14:35 PM
Really wanted to see Martin and Short when they were in Seattle, but the timing wasn't right.

Also, loved First Man (for whatever it's worth, kiddo did too). I understand why "mainstream audiences" may have been turned off, as the Armstrong character is playing so incredibly stoic the whole time, there's always a distance kept between the audience and the main subject. But the story, and the absolute technical mastery in how the movie was shot, had me in awe.

yea I get that too, audience felt distant from Armstrong, but that's how you have to tell his story.
Film was well directed. I thought it demonstrated great talent, separating the feel from Apollo 13 which was going to be the immediate comparison.

Bad Times at El Royale

Starting out, this is my kinda movie.
Darlene Sweet (Cynthia Erivo) arrives at the El Royale Hotel where she meets Father Daniel Flynn (Jeff Bridges) in the parking lot.
The seemingly hokey dialogue regarding the weather in each state refers to the California / Nevada state line depicted by a thick red line stretching through the hotel. Upon entering the lobby, we find Laramie Sullivan (John Hamm) impatiently waiting for an employee to surface in the vacant hotel.
We then see, or rather hear, Emily Summerspring (Dakato Johnson) roar in to the parking lot in her American made muscle car.
Once in, we continue with the interesting, stand offish character introductions when Miles suddenly appears (Lewis Pullman) who is rustled from the back by Cynthia's rap on an employees only door.

The audience gets the spiel about the Royale, the Nevada rooms get the Vice City treatment with gambling and drinking while the California side gets the sun and outdoors.
The character reveals come somewhat slow for some and are unveiled after Billy Lee arrives (Chris Hemsworth) surprisingly (to the characters) to the Royale.
One might describe this film as a talkie and Ive even heard it described as a Bud Light Tarantino film. That comparison notwithstanding, I fell like this movie needs more than one watch, at least it does for me. Entertaining as it is, it left me with unanswered questions although I only saw it yesterday soIm still mulling it over.
The third act, always saves or kills a movie and I haven't decided which but what it does do is make me re tread everything and reconsider dialog which is usually a positive for me.
The art direction was spot on here and most of the actors delivered. Hemsworth was a bit over the top and hammy if you will, but he was a necessary plot device.
This is not a Tarantino like film and don't believe anyone that tells you otherwise. I think its a good not great film and you should give it a go.
It's expressive and ambiguous, perhaps short sighted at times, but worth a look.

Spoiler: show

So the state line is obviously (to me) good (CA) vs evil (NV) and I liked the reveal of Miles, especially him dying right on the line.
Darlene we know is good throughout with all the rotten treatment she receives. Emily is neutral evil and Rose being mesmerized by Billy Lee was certainly believable. I felt liked the artful manner in which Father Flynn was mysterious, being tied to the opening murder, but then using his Alzheimer's to soften his criminal past making him acceptable to Darlene and the audience.
Obviously El Royale is a mob bugged locale for Hoover's FBI and I enjoyed part of the mystery of Sullivan discovering other bugs, that was a nice little open ended hmmm...
However, him choosing to ignore orders to defuse a kidnapping seems to illicit good guy vibes, coupled with the fact he died early.
Ive had many ask me, what is the point of the movie? That seems to be the main source of confusion.
I mean, to me, the point was that there are grey areas within us and its not just a good and evil state line running through our conscious.
Maybe I missed the point, I dunno.

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on January 04, 2019, 03:38:54 PM
Seeing as how it's now a new year, figured I'd futz around and throw out some stuff in here.

So, the first movie I saw last year was Molly's Game. I, personally, did not enjoy it very much at all. The last movie I saw last year was, actually, Die Hard. While in Myrtle for Christmas I was able to take kiddo to the "Flashback Cinema" that I used to take him to, where one of the theaters shows an old movie every Sunday and Wednesday. Well, the 30th was Die Hard and I wasn't missing seeing that in theaters.

My top rated (and favorite) movie of 2018: Blindspotting (5 stars).

Lowest rated movie: The Cloverfield Paradox (1 star)

How many movies got how many stars? I've got you covered:

5 stars: 8 movies
4 - 4.5: 22
3 - 3.5: 27
2 - 2.5: 10
1 - 1.5: 3

Best Animated (and most mind-blowing) movie? Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse. That was such a treat and really lived up to the expectations.

Best Documentary: Well, I only saw one, so it goes to Won't You Be My Neighbor

Biggest Surprise: Upgrade. Or as I like to call it: Venom 1.0, because this movie shares a plot, basically, and literally action sequences with Venom, but this came out first. And it's better. Also Logan Marshall Greene looks like Tom Hardy but actually knows how to use his voice instead of random made-up voices no one uses in real life.

Worst Sequel: I'd say Cloverfield Paradox, but are those movies really sequels? Kind of an anthology series, right? If not Paradox, then easily Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom.

Best Horror Movie: It's ranked 40th overall on my list of movies (and this requires you thinking that Searching, which was amazing, is a thriller and not horror and that The Meg, which was better than it had any right to be, is an action and not a horror, all of which I think are accurate), but, all that aside, it's Halloween. I liked it a lot more than I expected.

Best Drama: Blindspotting, obviously.

Best Action: Mission Impossible: Fallout, easily. This movie was insane. I love how McQuarrie allowed Rogue Nation to basically be the prologue so him and Tom Cruise could just go balls to the wall for this movie, because it freaking worked. That was a good time in the theater.

Best Thriller/Mystery: Searching. Seriously, if you didn't catch this in theaters, you need to see it. John Cho is GREAT in it, plus that ending, my goodness. Literally got chills thinking about it right now.

Oh, and lastly, Best Comedy: Blockers, which I have 16th overall on my list. That and Game Night were easily this year's standouts, and they were both early in the year. No others really came close (Tag was better than I expected, but nowhere near as good as the other two).


That's all I've got for now. Full rankings for all 70 movies here:

https://letterboxd.com/bucfever/list/films-ive-seen-in-2018-rankings/detail/
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 08, 2019, 03:38:36 AM
Watched Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse a few days ago and was blown away by just how incredible it was. More superhero movies need to be like this.

Anyway, here’s an article worth reading if you’ve already seen the film (there be spoilers). That moment hit me.

https://kotaku.com/spider-man-into-the-spider-verses-best-moment-comes-fr-1831554553
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on January 11, 2019, 02:22:20 AM

My top rated (and favorite) movie of 2018: Blindspotting (5 stars).

Lowest rated movie: The Cloverfield Paradox (1 star)

How many movies got how many stars? I've got you covered:

5 stars: 8 movies
4 - 4.5: 22
3 - 3.5: 27
2 - 2.5: 10
1 - 1.5: 3

Best Animated (and most mind-blowing) movie? Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse. That was such a treat and really lived up to the expectations.

Best Documentary: Well, I only saw one, so it goes to Won't You Be My Neighbor

Biggest Surprise: Upgrade. Or as I like to call it: Venom 1.0, because this movie shares a plot, basically, and literally action sequences with Venom, but this came out first. And it's better. Also Logan Marshall Greene looks like Tom Hardy but actually knows how to use his voice instead of random made-up voices no one uses in real life.

Worst Sequel: I'd say Cloverfield Paradox, but are those movies really sequels? Kind of an anthology series, right? If not Paradox, then easily Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom.

Best Horror Movie: It's ranked 40th overall on my list of movies (and this requires you thinking that Searching, which was amazing, is a thriller and not horror and that The Meg, which was better than it had any right to be, is an action and not a horror, all of which I think are accurate), but, all that aside, it's Halloween. I liked it a lot more than I expected.

Best Drama: Blindspotting, obviously.

Best Action: Mission Impossible: Fallout, easily. This movie was insane. I love how McQuarrie allowed Rogue Nation to basically be the prologue so him and Tom Cruise could just go balls to the wall for this movie, because it freaking worked. That was a good time in the theater.

Best Thriller/Mystery: Searching. Seriously, if you didn't catch this in theaters, you need to see it. John Cho is GREAT in it, plus that ending, my goodness. Literally got chills thinking about it right now.

Oh, and lastly, Best Comedy: Blockers, which I have 16th overall on my list. That and Game Night were easily this year's standouts, and they were both early in the year. No others really came close (Tag was better than I expected, but nowhere near as good as the other two).


That's all I've got for now. Full rankings for all 70 movies here:

https://letterboxd.com/bucfever/list/films-ive-seen-in-2018-rankings/detail/

I don't attend the theatre often nor watch too many movies of the year (not on purpose) so my choice wouldn't fall under 2018 lol
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on March 11, 2019, 11:48:14 PM
*No spoilers in here, promise*

Captain Marvel
Brie Larson, Samuel L. Jackson, Jude Law, Ben Mendelsohn, Clark Gregg, Annette Bening

Not sure how I was able to see this movie about a female superhero as a male without being triggered...oh, that’s right: I’m not a fragile, easily triggered moron.

Anyway, now that I’ve got that out of the way...

Brie Larson was the perfect choice to take on this role, an origin story set in 1995. They didn’t beat you over the head with it (the 90s references), which I liked. Seeing a Blockbuster Video again though did bring back some memories (former employee/assistant manager here). As nice as it was to get a look at how Captain Marvel came to be, it was also nice to get an introduction on how Nick Fury came to be as well. The cat is also awesome and I loved the name they gave it for the movie.

The story is pretty good but the pacing stumbles a little bit in parts. But overall it’s a fun film that fits in the MCU, and sets up the final superhero before we get Endgame dropped on us next month.

4.25/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on March 12, 2019, 02:08:31 PM
I read a bit about something she said that upset people. What was it? The film wasn't for old guys or something similar?
I didn't think too much about these types of things except in the case of the female Ghostbusters.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on March 14, 2019, 02:23:03 PM


Sure everyone's seen it by now, but I love the new Endgame trailer. Looks like my boy Cap is going to get roughed up, but I trust them to do right by him.

I can't wait for this movie to come out. I might be off the Marvel train by then (I'll probably still go see Spider-Man, though, at least), but these last 10, 11 years now, have been such a thrill.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on March 14, 2019, 03:06:44 PM
There's going to b ANOTHER Spider Man?
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on March 14, 2019, 03:16:30 PM
There's going to b ANOTHER Spider Man?


Yeah. It's funny, because it comes out like, 3 months after Endgame, I think? So they've already had to start marketing, despite Spidey getting dusted at the end of Infinity War. So, not even trying to pretend like he's not coming back (there's still the CHANCE that Far From Home is a prequel, but, honestly, if he were to theoretically still be dead at the Endgame, then what would be the point?)

But it's not another reboot this time, just a sequel to Spiderman: Homecoming, the one that's actually in the MCU with Tom Holland. Looks good, I'm always game for more Jake Gyllenhaal (I thought I spelled that wrong until I looked it up).
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on March 14, 2019, 03:44:27 PM
ok, no spoilers because I don't read or watch anything MCU other than the movies, but they really died at the end of Infinity War?
Don't answer that....

Im really indifferent to Jake Gyllenhaal. I know he's a lot of peoples favorites but I just don't get it.
It's like Jamie Foxx. Never cared for him despite the plum roles he seemed to land
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on March 14, 2019, 04:23:24 PM
I feel like Gyllenhaal was kind of an ironic choice for awhile, especially after Donnie Darko, but I think it was around the time of Prisoners, Enemy (both of which I have not seen) and Nightcrawler (WHICH WAS AMAZING) that audiences started to accept him as better than average.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on March 14, 2019, 05:15:05 PM
I feel like Gyllenhaal was kind of an ironic choice for awhile, especially after Donnie Darko, but I think it was around the time of Prisoners, Enemy (both of which I have not seen) and Nightcrawler (WHICH WAS AMAZING) that audiences started to accept him as better than average.

but that's my thing; is he?
Just a pointless observation by me lol
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on March 14, 2019, 05:39:16 PM
He definitely was in Nightcrawler, and I've heard the same about the other two (even from kiddo, who is a harsh critic).
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on March 23, 2019, 08:28:00 PM
The Dirt

I wasn't doing anything and this popped up on Netflix so I thought id glance it at and see how Netflix portrays Motley Crue.
Turns out its an almost 2 hour VH1 like documentary. Characters break the fourth wall, ironically at times to tell you this part of the film was made up or a certain pivotal character was left out to move the story along.
This film touches on the main peaks and valleys of their run, and sometimes does give the casual viewer a pov not necessarily known by those that weren't around then or don't follow the band.
In the end, its kind of fun but I grew up with the Crue coming to life and all that jazz so its probably different for me. It would do little more than wet the appetite for the casual fan to know more because its not that in depth, as it can't be really, I mean, its a rock and roll career spanning decades.
And just an FYI, there's a bit in here about the controversy from their song Shout at the Devil and I can tell you, it was quite fun debating the meaning and lyrics with the supposed Christians back then during the uproar.

If you're a Crue fan then you've probably already read the book, if not, see the flick. If you're not a Crue fan but a rock n roll fan, see it if its raining outside.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on March 30, 2019, 05:26:40 PM
The Highwaymen
Kevin Costner and Woody Harelson

I've been sucked in by Netflix again, although this time is much better.

Costner and Harrelson portray legendary Texas Rangers Frank Hamer and Maney Gault who were already noteworthy prior to gunning down Clyde Barrow and Bonnie Parker.
I had forgotten this film was due out and knew little of it other than the subject matter, I tend to stay in the dark on films I wish to see, but after, I like to read what others thought and Ill get to that in a minute.
This is the other side of the story, the one of the media darlings, the modern day Robin Hood's that were Bonnie and Clyde.
The Highwaymen rears the popularity and adulation Bonnie and Clyde received only to stamp it out firmly and quickly. We view them through the eyes of the law and the eyes of the victims of these road warrior criminals.
You have to talk romantically about B & C when telling their story, because it was true, however, in the past, its always been at the expense of the law.
Creating heroes, which is what Mickey and Mallory Knox were satirically representing. Notably, Arthur Penn's classic, Bonnie and Clyde wit Faye Dunaway and Warren Beatty was at the forefront of retelling this story in the mainstream although I doubt many who see this film will even have a clue there was another Bonnie and Clyde film, much less one that cemented the public's fascination with the murderous couple.
Costner and Harrelson are marvelous together and I consistently find Woody to be a vastly underrated and overlooked actor. He simply nails every part he choose to take.
As for Costner, it always amazed me how he always, always, seems to land such plum roles. Never really a fan of his, sans Bull Durham early on, but I guess I just have to admit he's a good actor.
While we follow these two as they trail the other, more infamous duo, we learn of their history, who they are, the Texas Rangers and the moral reasons for their demise, initially. (It's interesting, read up on it; most resigned as an unseemly corrupt governor was elected)
Barrow and Parker are rarely seen, and even when we do, its from a distance, or, we get a good look at the elegant Bonnie Parker's shoes as she walks up to a fallen officer to finish the job at point blank range. This was, I thought, a terrific effort to not change the potential likability or characteristics of the two, but to tell their story essentially without them being a part of it, in a distracting manner if you will.
The cinematography is wonderful although the sprawling vista we see on screen may be overdoing it just a bit, but it works. I love the art direction, depicting an era accurately is always plus, and directing on the whole The pacing was good, despite a just over two hour run, and the story always interesting.
As with any biopic, some liberties are taken for dramatization, but not much here. Well, as much as I know anyway. Although the Texas Rangers and Bonnie and Clyde are huge interests of mine, sadly, I can't say I've read enough on them to be wholly familiar with everything depicted here.
In any event, see this film, I really liked it but I realize many don't. And about that....

As I noted earlier, afterwards, I read other reviews and it seems people are put off at the idea how this film is a counter argument to Arthur Penn's feature. Apparently everything in this film is to denounce everything stated in the Penn film. Not that it was a story in its own right that absolutely needed to be told, but that its a shot for shot counter argument to the 1967 story. A heavy handed shame on you, society, for porting Bonnie and Clyde as heroes, shame!
That's not what the film says at all, although there is that
Spoiler: show
scene at the end where Woody literally says, "shame on you." Yea, that could have been directed at the camera, but the context of the scene is him watching an entire town rush the car with the two dead icons in it in order to grab a lock of hair, or cut off a trigger finger, so yea, shame on you.


Is it a statement about our mores and social behavior like Penn's masterpiece? You tell me.
I can see by looking online Im low man here and that's fine, but I tell you it's a good film.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on March 31, 2019, 03:30:31 PM
Thanks, was looking forward to seeing this and your reviews typically fall along similar lines as mine. Might have to check this out on a day when some sportsball event or work isn't consuming my time.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on April 01, 2019, 11:56:44 AM
The Dirt

I wasn't doing anything and this popped up on Netflix so I thought id glance it at and see how Netflix portrays Motley Crue.
Turns out its an almost 2 hour VH1 like documentary. Characters break the fourth wall, ironically at times to tell you this part of the film was made up or a certain pivotal character was left out to move the story along.
This film touches on the main peaks and valleys of their run, and sometimes does give the casual viewer a pov not necessarily known by those that weren't around then or don't follow the band.
In the end, its kind of fun but I grew up with the Crue coming to life and all that jazz so its probably different for me. It would do little more than wet the appetite for the casual fan to know more because its not that in depth, as it can't be really, I mean, its a rock and roll career spanning decades.
And just an FYI, there's a bit in here about the controversy from their song Shout at the Devil and I can tell you, it was quite fun debating the meaning and lyrics with the supposed Christians back then during the uproar.

If you're a Crue fan then you've probably already read the book, if not, see the flick. If you're not a Crue fan but a rock n roll fan, see it if its raining outside.

Cool been looking forward to checking it out.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on April 03, 2019, 10:44:41 AM
https://io9.gizmodo.com/a-new-clown-prince-rises-in-the-first-teaser-for-joker-1833749728


On the one hand, I'll probably end up seeing it because I'm a sheep and I go to the comic book movies when they release. I even saw Venom (I REFUSE TO SEE MORBIUS UNLESS THE REVIEWS ARE SOMEHOW AMAZING WHICH THEY WON'T BE).

This whole project has sounded weird from the start, and the trailer certainly didn't convince me that it wasn't, but I still just don't understand why? I don't know, it certainly can be good, best thing it has going for it is Joaquin Phoenix as the Joker does seem like a perfect match.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on April 03, 2019, 04:56:32 PM
Thanks, was looking forward to seeing this and your reviews typically fall along similar lines as mine. Might have to check this out on a day when some sportsball event or work isn't consuming my time.

yea, you will have to remember to tell me what you think if you ever see it.



Cool been looking forward to checking it out.

It's an easy entertaining watch
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on April 03, 2019, 05:01:03 PM
https://io9.gizmodo.com/a-new-clown-prince-rises-in-the-first-teaser-for-joker-1833749728


On the one hand, I'll probably end up seeing it because I'm a sheep and I go to the comic book movies when they release. I even saw Venom (I REFUSE TO SEE MORBIUS UNLESS THE REVIEWS ARE SOMEHOW AMAZING WHICH THEY WON'T BE).

This whole project has sounded weird from the start, and the trailer certainly didn't convince me that it wasn't, but I still just don't understand why? I don't know, it certainly can be good, best thing it has going for it is Joaquin Phoenix as the Joker does seem like a perfect match.

I don't understand what your questioning? I didn't know much about it, but the trailer interested me and Im sure Ill see it, not at the movies, but Ill certainly take a look, unless it just gets Suicide Squad type reviews
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on April 03, 2019, 05:04:46 PM
I guess I don't get why we need a Joker movie, especially one covering an "origin," and I'm very curious as to what Todd Phillips does with this. It stands outside DC's cinematic universe, which, fine, I can accept that that it's a one-off movie, which is something we haven't seen much for superheroes these days outside of maybe Hellboy or Venom lately.

But Joker? Are we supposed to empathize with Joker that he becomes one of the leading kill-count villains because he was...bullied? Are we going to get a reason, or is he going to just snap one day (which has always been my own interpretation because, it's kind of the point of the Joker).

I don't know, I just....it's a weird concept, making a Joker movie, placing it either in the 70s or just doing a visual homage to Scorsese and that 70s time period, and I'm really curious to see what it ends up being because it seems like it might be unlike anything we've seen in the realm of comic book movies, or it could be an utter trainwreck.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on April 03, 2019, 05:09:54 PM
I guess I don't get why we need a Joker movie, especially one covering an "origin," and I'm very curious as to what Todd Phillips does with this. It stands outside DC's cinematic universe, which, fine, I can accept that that it's a one-off movie, which is something we haven't seen much for superheroes these days outside of maybe Hellboy or Venom lately.

But Joker? Are we supposed to empathize with Joker that he becomes one of the leading kill-count villains because he was...bullied? Are we going to get a reason, or is he going to just snap one day (which has always been my own interpretation because, it's kind of the point of the Joker).

I don't know, I just....it's a weird concept, making a Joker movie, placing it either in the 70s or just doing a visual homage to Scorsese and that 70s time period, and I'm really curious to see what it ends up being because it seems like it might be unlike anything we've seen in the realm of comic book movies, or it could be an utter trainwreck.

I can understand that, I just didn't delve into it that deeply, just taking on the film itself.
Secondly, that's what Im wondering as well.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on April 25, 2019, 05:27:55 PM
Behind the curve

Netflix doc about flat earthers and their savior, Mark Sargent, an able bodied middle aged man who lives with his mom.
The desired outcome probably wasn't humor, but this film just cracks me up, at least in the beginning.
This crew did a pretty good job of being objective for the most part, but, sometimes, it seems, they just couldn't help but to insert some logic, which obviously sailed straight over the heads of these guys.
Towards the end, it really becomes a sad commentary about these folks, at least to me. Don't get me wrong, it's still funny as hell, especially the last experiment, but it could have been flat earth, it could have been why pumpkins aren't really orange, it could have been the conspiracy against round popsicle sticks, literally anything as long as its something these conspiracy theorists can cling to in the warmth of each others company.
Flat earth just happened to be Sargent's vehicle of choice.
This guy, I mean you can almost see his orgasms on screen as he deifies himself to the film crew and his followers.
The gotcha moments are jaw dropping, literally, and his creepy, almost predatory like pursuit of Patricia Steere is a cringeworthy arc you probably don't want to see, but it's such a great flavor to this snow globe idea, you can't look away.
You must give this a look because the film itself is quite well done and as I said earlier, fair for the most part, they just let Sargent et al drone on, and they gladly oblige, giving us this intellectual look in to the society of flat earth.

Ok Im kidding, but they do peer in to the flat earth society.

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Rigg44 on April 30, 2019, 11:35:10 AM
It was very good.  The final experiment was priceless. Like all conspiracies or nutball ideas, no matter the evidence presented they will not budge from their beliefs.  To do so would mean having to redefine themselves.   
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on April 30, 2019, 11:39:29 AM
It was very good.  The final experiment was priceless. Like all conspiracies or nutball ideas, no matter the evidence presented they will not budge from their beliefs.  To do so would mean having to redefine themselves.

Thats why it's so sad. To me, its not about the earth being flat. It's so these socially awkward, lacking or anxious types can all be together because they have little or no healthy relationships. Cue Mark Sargent

That ending was absolutely top notch!
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Rigg44 on May 01, 2019, 11:08:20 AM
It was very good.  The final experiment was priceless. Like all conspiracies or nutball ideas, no matter the evidence presented they will not budge from their beliefs.  To do so would mean having to redefine themselves.

Thats why it's so sad. To me, its not about the earth being flat. It's so these socially awkward, lacking or anxious types can all be together because they have little or no healthy relationships. Cue Mark Sargent

That ending was absolutely top notch!

I agree completely.  I think you can place almost any conspiracy theory in that category.  At first it's just a guy with an idea but once it becomes a movement with a community around it, the evidence doesn't matter.  At that point its all about protecting their community from dissipating.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on May 01, 2019, 11:27:34 AM
It was very good.  The final experiment was priceless. Like all conspiracies or nutball ideas, no matter the evidence presented they will not budge from their beliefs.  To do so would mean having to redefine themselves.

Thats why it's so sad. To me, its not about the earth being flat. It's so these socially awkward, lacking or anxious types can all be together because they have little or no healthy relationships. Cue Mark Sargent

That ending was absolutely top notch!

I agree completely.  I think you can place almost any conspiracy theory in that category.  At first it's just a guy with an idea but once it becomes a movement with a community around it, the evidence doesn't matter.  At that point its all about protecting their community from dissipating.

One of the great lines was when Sargent said, "all the scientists do is throw math at us." lol
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Rigg44 on May 02, 2019, 11:02:47 AM
It was very good.  The final experiment was priceless. Like all conspiracies or nutball ideas, no matter the evidence presented they will not budge from their beliefs.  To do so would mean having to redefine themselves.

Thats why it's so sad. To me, its not about the earth being flat. It's so these socially awkward, lacking or anxious types can all be together because they have little or no healthy relationships. Cue Mark Sargent

That ending was absolutely top notch!

I agree completely.  I think you can place almost any conspiracy theory in that category.  At first it's just a guy with an idea but once it becomes a movement with a community around it, the evidence doesn't matter.  At that point its all about protecting their community from dissipating.

One of the great lines was when Sargent said, "all the scientists do is throw math at us." lol

That was good.  I also like the way his mother, to me at least, seems to be rolling her eyes internally.  She supports him because he is her son but I got the feeling she sees it for what it is.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on May 02, 2019, 11:44:06 AM
It was very good.  The final experiment was priceless. Like all conspiracies or nutball ideas, no matter the evidence presented they will not budge from their beliefs.  To do so would mean having to redefine themselves.

Thats why it's so sad. To me, its not about the earth being flat. It's so these socially awkward, lacking or anxious types can all be together because they have little or no healthy relationships. Cue Mark Sargent

That ending was absolutely top notch!

I agree completely.  I think you can place almost any conspiracy theory in that category.  At first it's just a guy with an idea but once it becomes a movement with a community around it, the evidence doesn't matter.  At that point its all about protecting their community from dissipating.

One of the great lines was when Sargent said, "all the scientists do is throw math at us." lol

That was good.  I also like the way his mother, to me at least, seems to be rolling her eyes internally.  She supports him because he is her son but I got the feeling she sees it for what it is.

a son only a mother could love...and a flat earther lol
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on June 23, 2019, 08:27:38 PM
A Star is Born (2018)
Bradley Cooper / Lady Gaga

First things first, this is not a comparison to any of the three previous A Star is Born films.
Cooper plays country rocker Jackson Maine who is an alcoholic and pill popper who is on the downside of his career.
After a concert, he begs off the itinerary to go to the nearest local bar. What he finds are cross dressers performing at a local dive where Ally (Gaga) exhibits her talents on the small stage. Jackson seems instantly tuned in to who she is or wants to be and latches on to her immediately.
Then we have a contrived scene or two to get us to where we can witness the evolution of this relationship.
This is an emotionally driven, powerful story done right by Cooper in his directorial debut. Lady Gaga plays Ally, whom I really have no opinion of one way or the other. In fact, the only two things I know of her are the meat dress and the Super Bowl halftime show.
Turns out she was a wise choice here, emitting such raw visceral passion on screen is something to see in this film and Cooper stays right with her in telling their story.
At just over 2 hours, it might seem long, and I am usually a bit wary of such a long run time, but it was paced pretty well throughout, always providing new information, moving forward with the story.
Sam Elliott, who I think knocks it out of the park no matter what he does, plays Maine's older brother. That in itself was one issue I had albeit minor, who would believe those two aged so far apart could be brothers? Nonetheless, it doesn't interfere with the story or direction butis just another layer to this deeply themed film.
One issue I do have is that during the first act, there's really no clue as to the passage of time and I found my self lost somewhat, trying to figure out where exactly were we in the timeline of this relationship.
A few other glitches here or there do not negate any part of this film that examines these characters on such a deeply emotional level.
The music industry is not really examined here although it is a huge part of the story and should not be overlooked as it is an important tentacle in the narrative we see unfolding before us.
The music is good, but its not even close to a musical film so that shouldn't weigh negatively if you are thinking it might be a deterrent for you.
The cinematography is splendid and Coopers directing along with the actors tuned in (silly pun) so tightly to this story projects a terrific experience on screen.

And a few tidbits if you didn't know. Cooper trained for over a year on guitar and vocal lessons for this movie. While the singing was his though, the guitar playing was not. That would be Lukas Nelson, Willie's son, a gifted musician as you might well imagine.
I read an article where he said he gave Bradley Cooper a five to six rating on his guitar skills to which Cooper responded with, he's being too generous.
it comes off believable though as do the concerts, which one, incidentally, was filmed during one of Willie Nelson's shows. And here's some irony for you, it was right before Kris Kristofferson performed and he was of course, in the last A Star is Born with Barbara Streisand.

So, yes, Id recommend this movie, for sure.
I really enjoyed the statements this film made on all levels and was truly captivated by the message.
Understandably, its not everyones cup of tea, and many dislike it for spite simply because it was well received.

4.25 / 5


Spoiler: show
Chris Cornell came immediately to mind when I was watching the nd of this film. I wonder, if on any level, minimal as it might be, if that was in any way in Cooper's mind when co writing and directing this movie?

Other points:
I read one reviewer rail on the fact about the nose thing. About how Cooper was saying to Gaga, I want the whole billboard (of Ally) to be your nose.
If you're reading this, you know the nose was one of her self conscious concerns after being told over and over she wasn't pretty enough to make it
And this guy was just over the top about it. Her nose? How stupid!
Well, one, it only recurred a couple of times, and it was romantic banter, because thats what couples do you moron. Two, he told her from the beginning she was beautiful, talented and to be who you are, which is in fact the entire point of the fucking film, you dolt.

I was really moved by the debut of Shallow in the film when Ally rushed on stage capturing her moment. Atacking her fears head on. I think only a musician would have been able to pull that off, not just an actress.

The death of Jackson was quite tragic as well. His depression, alcoholism and drug use bettered him anyway, even though he came out recovery seemingly knowing what he had and intended to hold on to it. The Rez character, representing the music industry is what destroys them both. It's very sad and its very real, unflinching and unapologetic.
That long closeup of Jackson in the garage, waiting to close the door as he's deliberating was impeccably timed and Cooper poured his soul in to that shot. Amazing sequence.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on June 30, 2019, 03:56:59 PM
Captain Marvel
Brie Larson

I decided to keep up with the new stuff since my run on Marvel flicks a while back to catch up.
This will be brief. I liked it, but it was over the top and campy in spots. I guess it has to be though since its a comic book.
Larson seems somewhat athletic and is able to pull off the move set required for the most part, although catching her running from behind is not the most super hero esque. I noticed a few wire gags that didn't translate well, though not her fault, mostly direction.
She is leaps and bounds better than Scarlet Johansson who I cannot take seriously on any level as a super hero.

3.5/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on June 30, 2019, 05:47:06 PM
She is leaps and bounds better than Scarlet Johansson who I cannot take seriously on any level as a super hero.

Technically speaking, Black Widow is a master spy, not a super hero. :P
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on June 30, 2019, 07:40:04 PM
She is leaps and bounds better than Scarlet Johansson who I cannot take seriously on any level as a super hero.

Technically speaking, Black Widow is a master spy, not a super hero. :P

A spy can't be a super hero? Do the Avengers know about this?   ;)
Banter notwithstanding, Black Widow is terrible in action scenes, super hero or not, IMO anyway
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on July 11, 2019, 09:59:21 PM
Haven't done reviews in awhile, so I figure I'll just post these here since this seems to be the more active of the movie threads of late...

Avengers: Endgame
You know the f'ing actors already
Absolutely f'ing loved it. Was a fun and emotional roller coaster ride of a movie and the performances were great. Seen it three times and I still tend to get the feels in the same spots. Might even try to see it one more time in the hopes that it can break Avatar's box office record, because let's face it: for all the good stuff James Cameron has done, Avatar flat out sucked. There, I said it. 5/5


Always Be My Maybe
Randall Park, Ali Wong
Great little rom/com, and it's nice to see Randall Park get some notice-dude deserves some long overdue love. Also partial to films that attempt to break stereotypes, and this one does. Keanu Reeves also has the cameo of the year (so far). 4.5/5


Spider-Man: Far From Home
Tom Holland, Jake Gyllenhaal, Zendaya, Samuel L. Jackson, Jacob Batalon, Jon Favreau, Marisa Tomei

IMO this really was the movie that needed to happen after the events of Endgame and is a great cap on Phase 3 of the MCU. Explains some of the events and the aftermath, and is also a bit more lighthearted in tone. Tom Holland solidifies his spot as the best Spider-Man, and Jake Gyllenhaal is awesome too. Some great twists as well, and sets up quite nicely not just for the next Spidey film but also for Phase 4. 4.75/5


Yesterday
Himesh Patel, Lily James, Ed Sheeran, Kate McKinnon

First time I saw the trailer for this a few months ago I was hooked on the premise: the world wakes up one day not knowing the Beatles ever existed...except for one guy. In the hands of the guy that directed Slumdog Millionaire and 28 Days Later (Danny Boyle) and written by the guy that wrote Love, Actually and Four Weddings and a Funeral (Richard Curtis), this movie is really quite good and the story moves along pretty well. Part rom/com, part tribute to the greatness of the Beatles. Really enjoyed this one and I've even been jamming the Beatles as I write this post. Worth checking out. 4.25 out of 5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on July 12, 2019, 12:37:46 AM
huh. 2 of these were on my list. I may have just added 2 more
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on July 12, 2019, 12:16:49 PM

Always Be My Maybe
Randall Park, Ali Wong


Spider-Man: Far From Home
Tom Holland, Jake Gyllenhaal, Zendaya, Samuel L. Jackson, Jacob Batalon, Jon Favreau, Marisa Tomei


Yesterday
Himesh Patel, Lily James, Ed Sheeran, Kate McKinnon



https://letterboxd.com/bucfever/ - gonna pimp this again, haha. Ratings, a best of the year list, and my quick "Is It Worth It? Yes or No" review style.


As far as these guys go, I'm mostly in agreement (although I've been less merciful this year in my star ratings vs last year when I was handing out 5 stars like candy).

I thought Spider-Man Far From Home was really good, but a bit overstuffed. The Spider-Man stuff all worked, and the scene with him and Happy towards the end was the best "reminiscing about Stark" moment of the movie, for sure, but a lot of the other matters were a bit cluttered. Still, typical Marvel, a really fun and entertaining movie and worth seeing. Plus, wow, way to absolutely nail the character of Mysterio on their first try.




Naturally, growing up, I never enjoyed rom-coms because I was a boy and rom-coms were icky and fatuous. Nowadays, I appreciate the rom-com. I enjoy the somewhat lower stakes and the airy, breezy plots they tend to contain. But, as most people may have noticed, the days of My Best Friend's Wedding and Notting Hill are long gone from theaters.

Fortunately, there's Netflix.

Netflix has been doing great work in the rom-com area, and I agree, Always Be My Maybe was an absolute hit. Some third act issues, but Randall Park and Ali Wong are exceptional and of course that Keanu cameo was fantastic.


Yesterday I liked for the same reason, although I had advanced warning. When I heard Danny Boyle, the guy who did Trainspotting, who did 127 Hours, who did 28 Days Later, who did Sunshine, was doing a movie about the Beatles vanishing and one guy remembering, I didn't know what to expect but I thought it was going to be something profound and powerful a true commentary on art and culture.

Instead, we got a romantic comedy. It does touch somewhat on the cultural impact and importance of the Beatles, but nowhere near as much as I was hoping for.

That being said, this is why expectations are the death of positive reviews, and fortunately my expectations were lowered due to reading the Twitter reviews. As a rom-com, the movie works. Himesh Patel is fantastic, Ed Sheeran is....funny, I guess? But it's a good enough story and obviously any fan of the Beatles will love it.


There has been a LOT of discussing via the internet about the movie missing the point of The Beatles, and the context and timing of their releases alongside the whole world (Ob La Di, Ob La Da was used specifically as an example of a popular song that basically only exists because by that time the Beatles were THE BEATLES and could do no wrong). Also, there's a scene at the end that some people find to be in truly poor taste, although, while I understand their arguments, I simply disagree with their statement as a matter of opinion.

That being said, as per my review, it's worth seeing, especially if you enjoy the Beatles. There's one scene towards the middle involving a yellow submarine that literally had me break out in the biggest smile of the movie, I felt the joy and relief Himesh Patel's character was experiencing in that moment because the same thing that was dogging him had been dogging me the whole movie. Really enjoyable.




And this is why I should never talk movies, because I get going and I just don't stop, haha.



Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on July 12, 2019, 03:58:19 PM
I could talk movies all day long :D
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on July 12, 2019, 05:53:05 PM
Bit the bullet and created a Letterboxd account as well...I'll work on it later lol.

Yeah, I'm typically pretty generous with my ratings but whatever...they're mine haha. Odds are if I enjoyed it on some level it's at least gonna get a 3.5 from me, and I'm pretty sure my scores here have landed mostly in the 4-5 star range.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on July 12, 2019, 06:05:57 PM
Bit the bullet and created a Letterboxd account as well...I'll work on it later lol.


You'll have to give me your username once you do!

Hey, as long as we're all here:


Midsommar

Saw this the day before Spider-Man with kiddo (who is 13 now! if I have to feel this old, so do you!) I'm one of the rare people who didn't like Hereditary. Don't get me wrong, Hereditary wasn't bad, but I bought into ALL of the hype about how terrifying it was, and I feel like it did not deliver in that regard for me. Was a good family drama and had some interesting ideas, but it completely lost its way in the third act, plus, the plot was basically the exact same as Paranormal Activity 3, which made it predictable to me (bad on Ari Aster's part, or the sacrifice of seeing many movies? I blame myself.)


Anyways, with Midsommar I lowered my expectations and simply hoped for an enjoyable movie. For 2/3s of the movie, it delivered on that. A lot has been written about Aster's usage of shocking, gory and violent imagery in Hereditary, and the trend certainly continues with Midsommar. It does also help knowing that he wrote the movie after a breakup, which clearly influenced a lot of the plot lines throughout the film.

That being said, something that happened with Hereditary happens here. Aster sets up his 4 Americans and one Swede friend, establishes their basic foundations (basically, all friends of the dude Christian, plus his girlfriend), and sends them onto Sweden to participate in the Midsommar festival.

Christian and one of the other characters decide they both want to do their college thesis on the midsommar festival, although for Christian it's more opportunistic and for his friend it's actually because of his passion for anthropology. It's through this lens of the studying of other cultures that are unfamiliar from our own that the movie really starts to ask its questions about family, traditions, and modern values vs past values. There are horrifying things we see that the Swedish folk are completely numb to or, even, celebrate instead of being horrified. It could all be very interesting if Aster had any desire to actually say anything about it.

Instead, we end up focusing primarily on Christian and his girlfriend Dani. Florence Pugh does give a great performance, but as far as the characters go, they're never fully developed. They're broad strokes, Christian's sort of the unambitious slacker and inconsiderate of others, Dani's the girl who takes the world on her shoulders and clings to others after losing her family merely weeks ago (something covered at the very start of the movie).

It's a neat prism, contrasting her need for people to the way that Christian uses those around him, and it does set up the main conflict throughout the film, but the rest of the plot gets in the way. The side characters are dealt with in their own ways, but it feels almost obligatory, and the way they are simply never mentioned again is kind of...lazy? Once again third act issues plague the movie, as Hereditary decided to make a mad dash to the end of the film, Midsommar suffers from the same rush. After taking its time at a leisurely pace, everything picks up and your eyes are flooded with happenings stuffed into too short of time to fully even recognize what's happening.

Now, again, kiddo and I are in the minority when it comes to our opinions on Hereditary, and we seem to be the same here with Midsommar. Aster's got talent, he has skills, but he's still too gimmicky and unpolished. Those traits will carry him for a while, but, you only need to look at M. Night Shyamalan to see just how far gimmicks can get you when the story doesn't hold up.



Now watch me change my mind the first time someone writes a deep dive article on this movie and points out every little thing I missed.


3.5/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on July 12, 2019, 06:10:12 PM
TheNorm41!

Like I said, might be a bit before I get around to adding stuff to it, but I will. :)
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on July 15, 2019, 11:40:23 AM
Spiderman: In to the Spiderverse

I realize everyone gushes about this flick. I liked it. I was entertained. I wasn't mesmerized nor excited by it.
The story is well written and the dialogue is wonderful, it just seemed to drag a bit to me and became sluggish somewhat.
The animation was quite good too but I never felt I completely grasped what was happening and maybe that led to my likening it less.
In any event, good flick, not great.

3.5 /5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on July 15, 2019, 06:21:26 PM
Two this weekend


Stuber

Kiddos' choice, not mine, and yet, I kind of liked it? Don't come for the plot, there isn't much of one to speak of (but, may as well: Dave Bautista plays tough guy cop tracking down criminal who he has a personal history with, but he also just got Lasik and can't see very well so he needs an Uber to drive him around. And Kumail Nanjiani is the driver. That's as far as the story goes, really).

The true meat of the story is their different approaches: Bautista, being a very large and authoritative figure, is the screamy, shouty, punchy part of the duo, whereas Kumail is more the shrimpy, "woke" buddy.

The movie's a little weird, for as much as Kumail tries to soften Bautista's edges, a lot of times he just acts like a complete dick. However, to a certain extent, I think the movie does make a good point. This isn't the standard buddy-duo movie where they each have "their own way," and it turns out they can do their own thing and still be successful.

Kumail's character learns things from Bautista's. He becomes more assertive over the course of the film, and learns how to be aggressive in the right situation and in defense of himself, whether it be a physical defense or a more personal defense.

Bautista's change is more subtle, and, I may venture into some spoilers here, but throughout the movie Kumail's character is trying to break through the tough exterior of Bautista. Bautista had a cop partner die, is fairly estranged from his daughter, and just comes off as pretty much an asshole while Kumail tries to show him a better way (the "torture" scene is honestly an amazing example of this).

So, what I really liked is something that may go overlooked. I've noted how we see Kumail's character change, however as this is an action comedy for the most part Bautista stays pretty shouty, shooty and punchy. But, there's a scene where they go to a drug dealer's house, and the dealer has attempted to hide his drugs by force feeding them to his dog, which sends Bautista into a rage.

(Here comes the slightly spoilery part):

Now, mind you, outside of his dead partner, this is the most emotion and empathy we've seen Bautista give to anything. After they leave the house, he takes the dog with them, and by the end of the film still has the dog although, as time has passed, the dog is now wearing the vest of a certified and trained emotional support animal.

We've always seen movies that show soldiers, cops, and all other manner of authority figures get put through the ringer to come out triumphant on the other end and go back to life as if nothing ever happened (or, at the very least, "live happily ever after.")

This small, small acknowledgement that Bautista's character has A) taken Kumail's advice to allow himself to be more emotionally open, B) accepted help (it's a stretch, but I think it's safe to say he's likely in therapy as well if he's already taken this step). There's a great scene where Nanjiani tells him "it's not weak to ask for help," and here we have Bautista, having found a companion in this dog, accepting him as help and as something he'd rather not live without, even if people may view him as weak for needing it. I loved it, I wish it had called some more attention to it but it's such a great, minor little detail that tells us so much about how Bautista's character has progressed and accepted these new views to become a more complete person. Very cool.


3.5/5



Crawl


It was a movie about alligators attacking people during a hurricane. Did you see the trailer? Did it interest you? Go see it, you'll like it for what it is. Did you see the trailer and say "that looks stupid"? Don't go see it, the movie will not change your mind.

I saw the trailer and said "I want to see that."

3/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on July 15, 2019, 06:34:10 PM
Saw toy story 4. I actually liked it. Had a happy ending that you did not expect.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on July 15, 2019, 07:13:15 PM
Saw toy story 4. I actually liked it. Had a happy ending that you did not expect.

Right?! Like, I didn't expect to hate it, it's Toy Story, it's Pixar, but I was still afraid it would feel inessential or just like a cash grab, but nope, still found myself crying again.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on July 29, 2019, 10:47:00 AM
Once Upon A Time...In Hollywood

What the title suggests it is: A fairy tale, set in Hollywood, at the time of the Manson family. The story here is less of a story than it is a meditation on innocence, fun, and the ever looming specter of irrelevance and the passing of time. A true hang-out movie, which is all I wanted it to be, so it hit the mark for me.

4/5 stars



The Farewell

Speaking of hangout movies, here's one that makes you a member of the family. We're always "in the room," so to speak, for any movie we watch, we're in the room to see Ethan Hunt be brief or Batman fight the Joker. But maybe it's because of the fact that The Farewell is based on a true story, or that it's a very intimate family drama ruminating on death, our responses to it, and how our culture and upbringing are reflected in our responses.

Watching this family deal with the event in question, and how each responds to it in their own way, while sitting at dinners with the entire family or seated during the large wedding finale, even though the culture and the history reflected here is none of my own, the cinematography, the direction, and the absolutely incredible cast make you feel like you're there, like everything that is happening concerns YOU too. It doesn't hurt that the little old grandma is the most adorable lady ever and I want her to adopt me as her grandchild.

5/5 stars
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on July 29, 2019, 06:30:37 PM
Definitely curious about The Farewell, that trailer looked amazing.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on July 29, 2019, 08:06:01 PM
Definitely curious about The Farewell, that trailer looked amazing.

Loved it. Loved every second of it. I guarantee you will not be disappointed.

It's only in 3 theaters here, and all in the city, naturally. It'll be tough to catch, but worth it.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on July 29, 2019, 10:36:24 PM
Saw spider man far from home.... its good, comic nerds may not like it. I am a spidey fan so of course it doesnt follow the comics per se, but it is a good pop corn flick as they say.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on September 08, 2019, 03:05:46 PM
Creed II
Michael B. Jordan, Stallone


The return of Ivan Drago with Florian Munteanu playing his son, Viktor.
First things first, you know in Rocky movies there apparently are no weight classes, so throw that out of your mind right away if you haven't already.

Ivan has been eating this defeat for 30 years and he wants his revenge. However, it does become more than just that. His defeat at the hands of Balboa is of course the catalyst here, but its not the root problem.
Creed, meanwhile, is held up to the usual scrutiny you would expect of a legacy. He still looks to Rocky for guidance and support.
Stallone's Rocky is such a terrific character and its great to see basically his entire life play out across these films. From the first film until now, you see a consistent arc, although we do not acknowledge V, of his character, and in the Creed series, he doesn't overshadow the story. He just rides along in a sidecar, as does Apollo for that matter.
Its a fantastic story, spanning decades and families and the Drago's are an important exclamation point to that arc.
The story does have its normal tropes but it overcomes and is a solid celebration of the series.

4/5

I, Tonya
Margot Robbie,  Allison Janney

I really didn't know what to expect here but I wanted to see it because I recall this event like it was yesterday.
Robbie plays Tonya and they obviously have to downplay her natural beauty quite a bit, no disrespect to Tonya but facts are facts.
Janney plays Tonya's mom, LaVona.
The film opens with a declaration that its a result of ironic, conflicting interviews and other evidence of Harding and Gillooly. I wish I could remember it verbatim, but basically it says both are full of shit.
That tells you right off the filmmakers aren't trying to give you a one sided story, although they kinda have to really, I mean how else can you make a film?
We then see a present day aged Tonya and Jeff in separate locations telling the viewer what they are seeing is true/not true, their intentions and the like, almost mockumentary style. Actors are breaking the fourth wall as we move through the movie as well.
Tonya is painted as a redneck trailer park talent who only has her mother, Janney, who is as mean and projecting as you could possibly imagine. It makes you wonder why such a character would spend so much time and money helping her daughter to succeed.
Gillooly is just what you'd expect, a pretty worthless hothead, socially awkward around women. it's hinted he has redeeming values but we don't see them.
Eckhardt, the friend and so called bodyguard is indeed worthless. A cartoonish wannabe living in his mom's basement all the while being a world renown authority on terrorism LOL. He really said this, over and over. Talk about delusional.
Tonya comes off like a victim, not really knowing until after the fact, then didn't say anything until pressed by the Feds, and that's pretty much how it went down in real life. All the while though there's this little wink to the viewer, maybe, maybe not.
This film is an entertaining look at true events that really were quite shocking, and still are if you think about it. I mean, taking out a Gold medalist contender, not to mention teammate, and friend (if you believe Tonya)
All within view of skaters practicing on ice, officials roaming the halls, security and the like. Pretty mind blowing.
I find it interesting that Robbie didn't even realize this was a true story until she reached the end of the script.
Digression forthcoming....I guess its a sign of the times, but as I grew up, I still knew all about what transpired the years surrounding my birth and before, the generation before me, but apparently thats just not even fathomable since the 90's anymore. Im still amazed about events millennials aren't aware of, but like I say, different times I guess.

In any event, I thought it was an entertaining flick and it really walked a tightrope as to who knew and planned what when, because honestly, with all these goobers, I dont think we will ever truly know who set up what and when.
This film might mean more to me because I remember it, so take that in to consideration if you know nothing about the incident or the players.

3.75/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 14, 2019, 10:31:23 AM
El Camino
Aaron Paul

We pick up with Jesse right after the conclusion of the series with him screaming out of the Klan camp.
I was worried this would be a fan service film and it is, sort of, but its also a story that needed to be told since Jesse's world left us with a ton of questions about his immediate future.
We are given context through flashbacks to set up scenes and situations which mostly seem based on revenge, but are designed as necessary in order to accomplish his escape.
Some instances seem a bit far fetched for the Pinkman character but at the same time, I as the viewer, can accept his actions when you consider his long term arc.
After its all said and done, it really was a well executed film that told a much needed story. I would characterize it as being right in line with the BB series. Not a home run but certainly extra bases.

3.75/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 14, 2019, 08:40:29 PM
Joker
Joaquin Phoenix

I tend to avoid trailers and reviews of films I want to see because I don't want to walk in with tainted opinions.
Joker was one of those films.
After sitting through the 2hr 2 minute origin story I can tell you simply that you should go see it.
Phoenix was truly interesting to watch in this movie. Depending on who you listen to, it can be quite a derivative film
Spoiler: show
ala Taxi Driver
or it can be its own work of art about one of the most mysterious characters in the DC universe.
I will refrain from saying too much about it other than its content represents society as we are to a degree, if not in action, certainly in spirit.
This is just my opinion, but after I saw this film, I began reading the good and bad reviews and in my mind, the naysayers just missed the mark, completely, not even grasping the character, much less the message. Now I know, snot nosed critics look down on audience reviews because really, what could we possibly know about film making, right? But here, Im just flat out telling you, they are wrong.
Go see this film, come back and tell me if Im full of shit.

Well, about this, anyway.

4.25/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 21, 2019, 03:32:22 PM
Fighting With My Family
Florence Pugh
Vince Vaughn


This film is the true story of WWE superstar Paige.
She really does have an interesting story to tell but unfortunately the film fails her.
The Rock produced it and of course has a few self serving scenes, but always entertaining.
As with any true story, timelines have to be compressed and composite characters are created but the thrust of the story stays true.
Essentially, the movie tells you that Paige grew up in England with her family running a local wrestling circuit in which her and her brother Zak were being groomed to be WWE wrestlers.
We see Paige as an outsider, trying to fit in most of her life and she has that same chip on her shoulder when arriving to NXT.
There's a small bit of action and dialogue for smarks here but not much.
The film pretty much glosses over her time in NXT, treating her as an unknown, which she certainly was not.
Rock tells her she will appear on RAW the night after Wrestlemania and battle AJ Lee for the title, and win.
I wondered if that was actually true, turns out, it was. Go figure.
Then we jump to said Monday night.
The intro, the dialogue, interaction an the match were totally reconstructed to make Paige again seem unsure of herself and also as an unknown being lightly jeered or taunted by the fanbase.
This is all well and good but its nothing like what really transpired, and what really happened was far far more entertaining than what we see on screen.
I would watch the documentary the Rock saw which is what gave him the idea for this movie; The Wrestlers: Fighting With My Family and just avoid this one altogether. I mean, if you're a casual or nonexistent fan then yea, its an entertaining flick.

3/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 27, 2019, 08:25:48 PM
So Im rewatching all the Star Wars movies, sans Solo, to prep for Mandalorian and IX. It will be interesting to see if my rankings stay the same.
After I knocked out the prequels this weekend, here's some brief thoughts.

I TPM
This was the most anticipated film and justifiably so, however, I think most everyone will agree it was a colossal bust.
And no not because of Jar Jar but because the directing and dialogue were absolutely terrible. Add to the fact that Lloyd was nowhere near the actor they needed, as a matter of fact, I think that's one of the biggest failings of the prequels.
Lucas went batshit with the CGI and couldn't direct Portman and Christensen in that world, and add to it, they had zero chemistry. Neeson and McGregor was the saving grace. The pod race helped, but the duel of the fates saved this film from complete failure.

II AotC
We were holding out hope for this one, and it was actually better. Dialogue began to present Skywalker's conflicting thoughts and the story held interest until late in act II and III. The romance was dull, uninteresting and the actors appeared to not even be in the same studio, much less the same galaxy. Still, much better than TPM despite Lucas' directing skills still not on par

III RotS
This was the big one, Anakin's turn and the death of Padme, we all knew it was coming, but how would it be executed.
For all the flak Lucas received and deservedly so, for I and II, he recovered nicely for Revenge of the Sith.
Christenson seemed to be able to handle Darth Vader better than he could the young padawan and the duel between student and master was well done.
Padme's demise, dying of a broken heart....I mean, what else could Lucas do here, I guess, except have Vadeer accidentally kill her for real.


Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on October 27, 2019, 08:35:23 PM
I'm curious what you'd say if told that the general consensus amongst the "fandom" is AotC being the worst SW film overall? I think Duel of the Fates + the Maul-Kenobi-Jin lightsaber battle redeemed TPM over time.

I haven't watched either in a while so I couldn't even begin to tackle it.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 27, 2019, 08:50:01 PM
I'm curious what you'd say if told that the general consensus amongst the "fandom" is AotC being the worst SW film overall? I think Duel of the Fates + the Maul-Kenobi-Jin lightsaber battle redeemed TPM over time.

I haven't watched either in a while so I couldn't even begin to tackle it.

I would offer that its because of the love interest scenes which were beyond painful. Add to that the non existing chemistry between the two and yea, it sucked for sure.
But to me, it was a better designed world, the dialogue began to gain some depth in needed plot arc scenes and was able to develop and maintain interest more efficiently than TPM.

I did agree with the bold.

Modified to add that while better than TPM, Im not suggesting it was by a landslide ;-)

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on October 27, 2019, 09:19:41 PM
I don't think I've watched any of those in a very long time so my memories are vague, but those memories aren't good for the most part lol. I'd agree that TPM was rescued by Duel and Maul/Kenobi/Jinn. The love interest scenes in AotC pretty much ruined the second for me, and there just wasn't enough in the plot development arc to keep me interested. RotS was the best of the three, but even then that's not saying much because it's still worse than anything that's dropped since. The action scenes carried the movie.

As grateful as I am to George Lucas for this universe...his three prequels were just poorly executed IMO and might've done better in more capable hands.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 27, 2019, 09:29:08 PM
I don't think I've watched any of those in a very long time so my memories are vague, but those memories aren't good for the most part lol. I'd agree that TPM was rescued by Duel and Maul/Kenobi/Jinn. The love interest scenes in AotC pretty much ruined the second for me, and there just wasn't enough in the plot development arc to keep me interested. RotS was the best of the three, but even then that's not saying much because it's still worse than anything that's dropped since. The action scenes carried the movie.

As grateful as I am to George Lucas for this universe...his three prequels were just poorly executed IMO and might've done better in more capable hands.

I remember having discussions back then after TPM about someone else taking the reins. Always a great what if...
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on October 30, 2019, 02:44:34 PM
Saw two films this weekend, and also one older film for the first time in my life.

That film was 10 Things I Hate About You. It was good! Did you know it was filmed in Seattle? I didn't! Now I know.


Anyways.

The Lighthouse - I am a sucker for A24 films, and I saw Robert Eggers' previous directorial effort, The VVitch. I liked this film more than that one, which could be slowly paced at times. This film, at a mere 90 minutes, breezes by and there really isn't a slow point, despite there being only two actors: Willem Dafoe and Robert Pattinson.

Recreating a small island home to a lighthouse and nothing more, in the 1820s, is an incredible task. Filming it in black and white is a bold choice. Using lenses from the 1820s* is....even more bold, and the aspect ratio did take some getting used to. But the opening shot, of a ship emerging from cloudy waters, immediately transported me back to vintage film, and I knew I was in for an experience. Highly recommend. Just an all-out class on filmmaking.



The second movie I saw won the Palme D'Or recently.

Parasite- Now, there has been a lot of praise for Parasite, and I do NOT disagree. It is an exceptional film, and after Roma's run last year, I could very much see this being considered for an Oscar. But, of course, it's been labelled with the dreaded "horror" tag (While Bong Joon-Ho is known as a horror auteur, I don't know that it applies here. There are horror elements, but if elements add up to horror then Eighth Grade is also a horror film), so that may hurt its Oscar chances, but it's story and its characters are timely and real.

A young man, Ki-Woo, and his family live in basically a basement apartment: Him, his sister, and their parents. When Ki-Woo's friend, Min, offers him the chance to replace him as tutor to a rich girl while Min studies abroad, Ki-Woo leaps at the chance despite not having a college degree. Min tells him not to worry, as the mom is very simple, and Ki-Woo creates a forgery of his diploma.

Once employed and making money, Ki-Woo starts to scheme, as the family is very rich. He gets his sister a job when the family's younger son, Da Song, needs an art tutor, despite the sister also not having a degree (but she is very art talented). Soon Ki-Woo is scheming to have his mom and dad replace the driver and the housekeeper. But, once his plan appears to have succeeded, is when things start to really kick into gear.

Parasite is two films. One is about a family in poverty using underhanded methods to increase their lot in life. They're con artists, but they're not actively hurting the family, which is how they justify what they're doing, despite having to replace two of the family's employees.

Meanwhile, the rich Park family is played for laughs at times, but never malice. The only malicious statement that is made concerns the smell of Kim Ki-taek, the father of the poor family who takes over as driver. It's such a straightforward, immensely personal slight, and works so well to set the audience (us) into a rage.

It's an interesting movie that makes you question your sympathy, until a third act twist that blows everything up. Suffice to say, this is as much about the violence and malice of the 1% as it is the impoverished taking a "crabs in a barrel" approach to life.


I think The Lighthouse is my second favorite film of the year (with all my hang-ups regarding death, the light-hearted "The Farewell" will be hard to take down as my #1), and I put Parasite as #3. Was a really great weekend for film for me, and further confirms my new "avoid most franchises" mandate (I think I'm superhero'd out, I'm good on the new Terminator, thanks and as for Star Wars...well, no, Star Wars I'll be seeing).

Shameless self promotion, not that I make any money off of my Letterboxd, but I always post a quick "is it worth it" review and add it to my rankings for that year after I see a new film:

https://letterboxd.com/bucfever/list/2019-films-ive-watched-ranking/



*I was way off on the lens details. From IMDB:

Since the film is set in 1890, it was shot on 35mm black and white Double-X 5222 film, all while augmenting the Panavision Millennium XL2 camera with vintage Baltar lenses from as early as 1918 to as late as 1938. This makes the aspect ratio approximately 1.19:1, which is practically square. To enhance the image and make it resemble early photography, a custom cyan filter made by Schneider Filters emulated the look and feel of orthochromatic film from the late 19th century.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on November 26, 2019, 09:56:58 PM
So, With Rise of Skywalker on the horizon, I re watched all 8...oh wait, make that 10 SW films in order.

Here's a brief re evaluation and re ranking.

1. TPM
The origin story of Anakin, all told, not terrible. Jake Lloyd was way out of his element and not believable. On the other hand, Liam Neeson and Ewan McGregor were much better but still couldn't save this film. The pod race and duel of fates kept this from the crapper. Despite the "high ground" thing

2. AotC
The problem with Lucas going almost completely digital is that he was dealing with actors that could not act within a green screen world.
HC did all he could with the role, but I felt like h just wasn't mature enough yet, oddly enough, just like his character.
I really did enjoy seeing Yoda get his game on, I thought that was well done. However, Count Dooku was quite miscast IMO. And why did Obi Wan have to look like such a pansy in that fight?

3. RotS
I liked this one best of the three as I think most did. I felt like HC grew in to the role and handled this much better. The death of Padme was weak and felt rushed. I think they could have expanded the timeline a bit and have her die of complications a few days, weeks later before shipping Luke and Leia off.
The intro of Vader was what we all wanted to see and I thought it was well done.

4. RO
I really like this film. When it was first announced, I was against it because thats when we discovered there would b a flurry of SW films and I was worried about over saturation, which is what happened, I think anyway. See Marvel.
However, this, unlike Solo, was a film we needed to see because it was such a vital element to ANH.

5. Solo
We didnt need this film. I hated it from the start. I hated it when it was cast and Ive hated ever since.

6. ANH
This will always be the grandaddy for me. So far ahead of its time, but you still love it for the characters and the story too. Enough said.

7. ESB
Only because ANH was first. That's the only reason this one wasn't numero uno for me. That story, the character and world building, that twist! And technology was beginning to catch up to Lucas' vision.

8. RotJ
I know I know, Ewoks. Btw, did you know that in early drafts, the Ewoks were to be Wookies? But, Lucas wanted it to b a primitive species that aided the rebellion in overtaking the Empire and Chewbacca had been show to be quite advanced, so, so much for that.
All things equal, I still like this film. It concluded the Vader bomb in ESB and also showed us that Lando could make amends.

9. TFA
I really really liked this film, a lot. It was just Star Wars. And it looked and felt like a world Lucas envisioned, but technology just wasn't there during his first run. Absolutely stellar acting by the two leads. This is what can make a film great, or turn it into AotC.
The torch began to change hands.

10. TLJ
Ah man, Rian Johnson, wtf dude, seriously?
The Finn and Rose arc, the direction felt less like SW by far than the previous, and what the hell with that slo mo shit over and over? Not to mention that whole Mary Poppins bullshit with Leia. There must have been ten ways to deliver the message of that interaction between Ben and Leia and he chose the tenth worst. Just not a good film at all.

Ranking:
A New Hope
Empire Strikes Back
The Force Awakens
Rogue One
Return of the Jedi
Revenge of the Sith
Attack of the Clones
The Phantom Menace
The Last Jedi



Solo


Honestly, Menace, Clones and Jedi are really close to each other and could even swap spots on my next viewing.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on November 29, 2019, 10:31:09 AM
Lol, Last Jedi under the three prequels? Hard agree to disagree on that one.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Rigg44 on November 29, 2019, 11:44:31 AM
Just because I did the same re-watching in chronological order to get ready for the Rise of Skywalker, here is my take.

1. TPM
The movie suffers from horrible acting.  Jake Lloyd and Pernilla August had all the emotional flexibility of a board in this movie.  Ewan McGregor and Liam Neeson turn in pedestrian performances that were obviously hampered by a fully digital environment.  The only saving graces to be had in this movie were the pod races and the duel scene.  Those almost make it worth the watch until you factor is Jar Jar, then this becomes the only piece of Star Wars I would rather just skip.   

2. AotC
Who would have thought any movie could make Samuel L. Jackson look pedestrian? Of course, he could not be his normal Pulp Fiction self but that didn’t mean he had to alternatively be boring.
The main issue with this movie is pacing.  There are just too many long conversationally heavy scenes that add nothing to the plot.  Oh, and Anikian and Padme had zero chemistry.  In the end, I wish Lucas would have gone with a complete cast of unknowns like he did with the original trilogy.
We always knew Vader was a troubled soul but I thought that meant anger and hate not whiney teenage puberty.
Overall this movie is average at best and comically bad in spots but the large action sequences and Yoda’s badassery save it from the trash heap.

3. RotS
This movie is universally regarded as the crown jewel of the sequels, and it is. The fight scenes are fantastic and well done. Some effects have aged very poorly ( I am looking at you lava platform hovering droid things) but overall this movie is good with one subtraction Padme’s death.  The way it was portrayed opened new plot holes. Leia clearly says she remembers her mother in RotJ but as portrayed that could not have happened. As Crewe said it also felt rushed and almost “tacked on”.

4. RO
This film to me of all the newer movies feels the most like star wars.  It feels like a lived in-universe.  The characters are well developed with clear motivations and all are very well acted.  It also doesn't add side content to make unnecessary political commentary. Overall this movie is a great watch. 


5. Solo
I never thought we needed a Solo movie nor did I want a Solo movie.  Some characters by their nature are side characters Han is one of those characters.  Once you start explaining his motivations and history you eliminate his mystery which is a big part of his overall badassery. I will say that on second viewing I enjoyed it far more than I did when I initially watched it.  They still horribly miscast Han which pretty much doomed the movie.
 The action is well done Woody Harrelson is great in his role and I liked the world they built overall. The on the ground in the muck battle scene is probably one of the best battle scenes in all of star wars but its placed in a vehicle reliant on one thing, Han Solo and when they miscast that role they doomed the movie.

6. ANH
This movie still holds up for the most part. Sentimentally it is, of course, a legendary piece os cinema for me.  If I look at it objectively however it has some pacing issues and drags at times.  The acting is outstanding and the chemistry among our main characters is undeniable and that more than anything is why I fell in love with this franchise.

7. ESB
This is one of the few movies I consider perfect. It is well-paced the action is great and the story pushes our characters in ways we did not expect. This movie was and is one of my favorites of all time.

8. RotJ
This movie is not perfect and has many flaws (teddy bears, I mean Ewoks) but Jabas palace, Boba Fet, the Luke/ emperor  scene all make this movie a great addition to the saga.

9. TFA
I know that this movie was criticized heavily for its “formulaic” approach and similar script to the original trilogy but so what.  This movie was a good movie. It's very well acted, shot beautifully with iconic scenes and great character development. Rey is a great new lead, Poe a great new Han, and Fin a great third.  This cast is great.

10. TLJ
After such a good opening salvo I had high hopes and they were dashed to the ground like and overripe watermelon. 
The Finn and Rose side quest was fine if not used as a vehicle for a political statement. There are plenty of films that would work in, not star wars, at least not in the ham-handed overt manner it was done in here.
They took the most badass hope-filled Jedi to every exist and turned him into a grumpy people hating old hermit. Then you don’t even let him go out in a glorious blaze of glory instead he fades aways from overexertion, come on! This film is just a mess for so many reasons, Crewe already addressed Leia but man, really? 

Ranking:
A New Hope
Empire Strikes Back
Revenge of the Sith
Return of the Jedi
Rogue One
The Force Awakens
Attack of the Clones
The Last Jedi
Solo
The Phantom Menace
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on November 29, 2019, 01:52:48 PM
Lol, Last Jedi under the three prequels? Hard agree to disagree on that one.

haha, I had to make a statement lol
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on November 29, 2019, 02:17:15 PM
Just because I did the same re-watching in chronological order to get ready for the Rise of Skywalker, here is my take.

1. TPM
The movie suffers from horrible acting.  Jake Lloyd and Pernilla August had all the emotional flexibility of a board in this movie.  Ewan McGregor and Liam Neeson turn in pedestrian performances that were obviously hampered by a fully digital environment.  The only saving graces to be had in this movie were the pod races and the duel scene.  Those almost make it worth the watch until you factor is Jar Jar, then this becomes the only piece of Star Wars I would rather just skip.   

This is my thoughts throughout the prequels too. I never thought Neeson and McGregor were thwarted by the all digital world, but I guess I was so zoned in on how that was exactly the case with the other actors. Perhaps it was just just Lucas was unable to get what he intended out of these two. You are
right though, they were certainly middle of the road, while not detrimental.

2. AotC
Who would have thought any movie could make Samuel L. Jackson look pedestrian? Of course, he could not be his normal Pulp Fiction self but that didn’t mean he had to alternatively be boring.
The main issue with this movie is pacing.  There are just too many long conversationally heavy scenes that add nothing to the plot.  Oh, and Anikian and Padme had zero chemistry.  In the end, I wish Lucas would have gone with a complete cast of unknowns like he did with the original trilogy.
We always knew Vader was a troubled soul but I thought that meant anger and hate not whiney teenage puberty.
Overall this movie is average at best and comically bad in spots but the large action sequences and Yoda’s badassery save it from the trash heap.

That's a good point there. I kept waiting for the angst, not whining, to turn in to rage and puberty is a great reference lol

3. RotS
This movie is universally regarded as the crown jewel of the sequels, and it is. The fight scenes are fantastic and well done. Some effects have aged very poorly ( I am looking at you lava platform hovering droid things) but overall this movie is good with one subtraction Padme’s death.  The way it was portrayed opened new plot holes. Leia clearly says she remembers her mother in RotJ but as portrayed that could not have happened. As Crewe said it also felt rushed and almost “tacked on”.

You know, the only out I've ever come up with regarding this comment was, did we ever learn what happened to mama Organa? Maybe it was her Leia was referencing? otherwise, yea, Im right there with you.

4. RO
This film to me of all the newer movies feels the most like star wars.  It feels like a lived in-universe.  The characters are well developed with clear motivations and all are very well acted.  It also doesn't add side content to make unnecessary political commentary. Overall this movie is a great watch. 

yup

5. Solo
I never thought we needed a Solo movie nor did I want a Solo movie.  Some characters by their nature are side characters Han is one of those characters.  Once you start explaining his motivations and history you eliminate his mystery which is a big part of his overall badassery. I will say that on second viewing I enjoyed it far more than I did when I initially watched it.  They still horribly miscast Han which pretty much doomed the movie.
 The action is well done Woody Harrelson is great in his role and I liked the world they built overall. The on the ground in the muck battle scene is probably one of the best battle scenes in all of star wars but its placed in a vehicle reliant on one thing, Han Solo and when they miscast that role they doomed the movie.

Thank you!  :-)

6. ANH
This movie still holds up for the most part. Sentimentally it is, of course, a legendary piece os cinema for me.  If I look at it objectively however it has some pacing issues and drags at times.  The acting is outstanding and the chemistry among our main characters is undeniable and that more than anything is why I fell in love with this franchise.

I thought even in the slower parts, the dialogue either developed the characters or drove the plot. You ever watch that doc about how editing saved Star Wars? you talk about poor pacing, watch that and see what Lucas initially intended lol To be fair to him, it was a first cut, but still.

7. ESB
This is one of the few movies I consider perfect. It is well-paced the action is great and the story pushes our characters in ways we did not expect. This movie was and is one of my favorites of all time.

 :D

8. RotJ
This movie is not perfect and has many flaws (teddy bears, I mean Ewoks) but Jabas palace, Boba Fet, the Luke/ emperor  scene all make this movie a great addition to the saga.

I go back and forth on the Ewoks. I mean, Lucas always had kids in mind when making Star Wars. Maybe Ive just seen it so much Ive softened on the whole thing. If he had just made them a bit more gritty. They did have some effective primal methods for taking out the At-At's, but the throwing stones and hand to hand with Stormtroopers.....ehhhh...no.

9. TFA
I know that this movie was criticized heavily for its “formulaic” approach and similar script to the original trilogy but so what.  This movie was a good movie. It's very well acted, shot beautifully with iconic scenes and great character development. Rey is a great new lead, Poe a great new Han, and Fin a great third.  This cast is great.

You know, every Star Wars move follows that formula fairly close though. Ok, not every, but still, so Im like you, it gets a major pass for being Star Wars.
Agree on the actors man, there's just no way to emphasize how much of a difference they make in a world like this. I also think, personally, they were excited to be part of the SW universe and legacy. I never got that feel from Portman and Christianson. The film also had a few nods to the original without any overt or obvious fan service moments.

10. TLJ
After such a good opening salvo I had high hopes and they were dashed to the ground like and overripe watermelon. 
The Finn and Rose side quest was fine if not used as a vehicle for a political statement. There are plenty of films that would work in, not star wars, at least not in the ham-handed overt manner it was done in here.
They took the most badass hope-filled Jedi to every exist and turned him into a grumpy people hating old hermit. Then you don’t even let him go out in a glorious blaze of glory instead he fades aways from overexertion, come on! This film is just a mess for so many reasons, Crewe already addressed Leia but man, really? 

yea, the Leia thing was just....man.
I go back and forth on the Luke/Ben thing too. I mean my fist thought was, bullshit. Here's Luke, a guy who was adamant he would turn a mostly machine being to the good side, or die trying. No gray area there. And now, he's going to murder his own teenage student? That is not Luke, at all.
The other part of me understands that they had to create a reason for Luke to close himself off from the force and this was a great way to do that. But visually, to have him standing over a sleeping "foe" with light saber drawn, again, thats not Luke. There were other ways to accomplish this crisis.
I do like the ambiguity created though, we have two versions, Luke's and Ben's and we don't know who to believe really so they did cover it at least.

Thanks for the input dude, enjoyed reading it!

Ranking:
A New Hope
Empire Strikes Back
Revenge of the Sith
Return of the Jedi
Rogue One
The Force Awakens
Attack of the Clones
The Last Jedi
Solo
The Phantom Menace
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