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Title: The TV thread
Post by: rollntider on May 28, 2014, 01:06:50 AM
True detective season 2 info
http://io9.com/true-detective-season-2-location-change-reavealed-and-m-1582214001
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: rollntider on June 07, 2014, 10:32:27 PM
Orange is the new black season 2... recommended.....

Not as dark as OZ, I dont think women are as evil as men.... ;)
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on June 08, 2014, 02:44:03 PM
OITNB is more lighthearted, but I like it enough.  It's not near as serious as the book, although it did have humorous instances.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Bret on July 10, 2014, 07:09:55 PM
I have adopted a new television policy that I am very happy with...

I absolutely refuse to watch any show until it is concluded!

Why? You may ask...

I am sick to death of the rug being pulled out from under me. No one would buy a ticket to a movie theater wondering if they would get to see the entire movie or not, and I am adopting a similar policy toward television. There are many shows that shouldn't have been cancelled when they were, but what pushed me over the edge is when TNT cancelled Men of a Certain Age. That was a great show with a lot of heart. Even TNT admitted it was a great show, but they were cancelling it anyway. That's when I said "Enough! no more! They're never going to get me again!"

Shows I have already been watching are "grandfathered" in. But, from here on out, the TV industry isn't going to get me again!

I have watched a few series now using my new "TV model", with the help of Netflix and/or DVD sets, and it is much better!
-No commercials
-the "cliffhangers" are only as long as I decide they are
-no waiting months for the next season to start
-no idiotic censorship or trimming down for syndication like some shows do later on
-Before I start committing myself to the show I know whether or not the show was allowed to reach a natural conclusion in its own time or if it was prematurely cancelled, so no unpleasant surprises there.

I am MUCH happier watching my TV shows this way. Sure, I have to wait about seven years to start watching a show, but I don't care...the piece of mind of knowing I won't be left hanging to me is well worth the wait.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: rollntider on July 11, 2014, 01:11:12 AM
Alcatraz pissed me off, it was a good show and they cancelled it... but Game of Thrones is a must watch now....

True detective is a one season type of show. Season 2 will be its own thing.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on July 11, 2014, 11:00:34 AM
Ive been a binge watcher since the "24" days.
I like to let a show get a good three or four seasons in before I consider adding it to my qeue.
Some, like SOA, I caught up with and watch after each season ends so I can blow through without stopping.
If I am all caught up, like now, Ill go with a brief run of something like American Horror Story, but usually I will fire up a long running sitcom ala Cheers, The Office, and watch again from beginning to end again until some of my other shows pass me by.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: rollntider on July 11, 2014, 07:12:07 PM
i started the sopranos again
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: TheNorm on July 11, 2014, 08:51:38 PM
Meh, I don't mind watching shows when I actually have time. Although I do have to be choosier about what I devote time to (since I also don't want to start getting into a show only to see it gone after one season), occasionally I'll guess wrong on a show. For example, I thought for sure Hannibal would be cancelled after one season so I stopped recording it on my DVR last year since I didn't have time to watch. Turns out it finished season 2 a couple of months ago and has been absolutely excellent; I hear Mads Mikkelson is an excellent Hannibal Lecter and the series has been great. I'll have to catch up down the road with that one...and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., too.

Still keeping up on 24 this season (Jack Bauer forever), and I've enjoyed MasterChef too. I also can't wait for Season 3 of The Newsroom to get started.

As far as Netflix goes, been watching West Wing on a regular basis-had forgotten just how much I absolutely loved that show.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on July 12, 2014, 12:50:19 PM
norm, thats one reason why i wait for a show to get three or four seasons ahead.  If it's canceled, then Im not vested.  Secondly, it allows me to see if the show holds up, i.e. great first season, but poor second third or fourth…. etc…
Thats why I waited four seasons on Dexter, SOA, GoT, BB and the like.
Plus, I could power through at my discretion   :-)
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: bigbaldben on July 12, 2014, 02:28:50 PM
norm, thats one reason why i wait for a show to get three or four seasons ahead.  If it's canceled, then Im not vested.  Secondly, it allows me to see if the show holds up, i.e. great first season, but poor second third or fourth…. etc…
Thats why I waited four seasons on Dexter, SOA, GoT, BB and the like.
Plus, I could power through at my discretion   :-)

I did the same with Breaking Bad.  Plus it was nice that I didn't have to wait to "tune in next week/season."  :D
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Bret on July 13, 2014, 02:38:52 AM
I also did it with Breaking Bad, and I'm all caught up with SOA. Watched the first six seasons in about as many weeks.

At first, my policy was that I would wait until it became clear that a series wouldn't be cancelled before I started watching it. But, being left waiting for more with SOA and Breaking Bad made me modify my policy to just wait until the series is concluded.

Last summer, the wife and I watched The Wire all the way through in about a month. A masterpiece of a show, and a great experience of doing the entire thing on ourown terms.

Another thought...before SOA, the last show the wife and I "binge watched" was Treme. It taught me that even HBO isn't above pulling the plug two early. HBO gave the showrunners enough notice and a half-season to wrap up storylines, but three and a half seasons just didn't feel like enough time to tell that story.

Since we have some folks who watched Breaking Bad, I want to put a question out there...am I the only one who was disappointed in the finale? To me, it just didn't have that feel of closure, or maybe something was lacking or missing...I don't know. It just felt as if they could have done better.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: rollntider on July 14, 2014, 12:20:45 AM
I also did it with Breaking Bad, and I'm all caught up with SOA. Watched the first six seasons in about as many weeks.

At first, my policy was that I would wait until it became clear that a series wouldn't be cancelled before I started watching it. But, being left waiting for more with SOA and Breaking Bad made me modify my policy to just wait until the series is concluded.

Last summer, the wife and I watched The Wire all the way through in about a month. A masterpiece of a show, and a great experience of doing the entire thing on ourown terms.

Another thought...before SOA, the last show the wife and I "binge watched" was Treme. It taught me that even HBO isn't above pulling the plug two early. HBO gave the showrunners enough notice and a half-season to wrap up storylines, but three and a half seasons just didn't feel like enough time to tell that story.

Since we have some folks who watched Breaking Bad, I want to put a question out there...am I the only one who was disappointed in the finale? To me, it just didn't have that feel of closure, or maybe something was lacking or missing...I don't know. It just felt as if they could have done better.
yes i do agree, it could have been better. I feel they did on the other hand wrap it up, and leave it open for a spin off.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on July 18, 2014, 11:33:46 AM
I liked it. A bit over tge top though
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: rollntider on July 18, 2014, 10:59:44 PM
they did a better job than Dexter and Battlestar Galactica.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on July 20, 2014, 10:30:43 AM
Dexter was hugely disappointing.
The worst of it is that they had it set up for a really solid finish
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: TheNorm on July 30, 2014, 08:31:32 PM
I haven't spent very much time watching WSOP the last few years, but decided to watch the tournament they call "The Big One", with the $1,000,000 buy-in for the players (started I'm assuming as a tourney for the poker pros instead of the $10K main event that many seem to be able to play in). Anyway, witnessed what may very well be the worst bad beat I've ever seen...ouch.

Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on July 31, 2014, 03:28:31 PM
that, my friends, is my life summed up perfectly. 
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: bigbaldben on August 26, 2014, 01:03:29 PM
Since we have some folks who watched Breaking Bad, I want to put a question out there...am I the only one who was disappointed in the finale? To me, it just didn't have that feel of closure, or maybe something was lacking or missing...I don't know. It just felt as if they could have done better.
yes i do agree, it could have been better. I feel they did on the other hand wrap it up, and leave it open for a spin off.

Couple of thoughts  maybe it could have been better, but given the recent finales of some shows, it could have been much, much worse.  I think Jessie's future is the one thing you can say had lack of closure - I can't imagine it being far from the local psych ward and maybe the writers couldn't either - and maybe they just didn't want to put him there.  But I was satisified with it.  I agree, could have been better I'm sure, but I wouldn't know what to change to make it that way.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on August 26, 2014, 10:13:41 PM
agreed. it could always be better when you see it even though you don't know what you are expecting.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Bret on August 27, 2014, 01:29:25 PM
If I were writing the finale, I would have had Jesse killed by gunfire, and have Walter end up dying of his cancer.

I felt like the show was, in the later seasons, trying to spin it to how Walter dragged Jesse in to all of this, and basically where ever Walter led Jesse would either follow willingly or somehow be dragged. I'm not trying to defend the Walter character, on the contrary I felt as if he turned into a bit of a scumbag. But, the truth is that Jesse was always in charge of Jesse, and had he never got involved in the meth business at all, be it a manufacturer, a dealer, or a user, his life would have been much better than it was.

I say all of that to make the point that, were the show to go on and were it at all realistic, Jesse himself would be dead within a year or two, anyway, even without Walter around. I've lived in enough ghettos for a long enough amount of time to know that living that life has two endings: either premature death, or prison. Or, in some cases, both.

Since we have some folks who watched Breaking Bad, I want to put a question out there...am I the only one who was disappointed in the finale? To me, it just didn't have that feel of closure, or maybe something was lacking or missing...I don't know. It just felt as if they could have done better.
yes i do agree, it could have been better. I feel they did on the other hand wrap it up, and leave it open for a spin off.

Couple of thoughts  maybe it could have been better, but given the recent finales of some shows, it could have been much, much worse.  I think Jessie's future is the one thing you can say had lack of closure - I can't imagine it being far from the local psych ward and maybe the writers couldn't either - and maybe they just didn't want to put him there.  But I was satisified with it.  I agree, could have been better I'm sure, but I wouldn't know what to change to make it that way.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: rollntider on August 27, 2014, 04:53:17 PM
I think Jesse would had died because of that girl if she had not od'd. It was a matter of time for pink man as long as she was alive
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on August 27, 2014, 06:57:57 PM
I actually think Jesse was closed out pretty well although on screen we were left with a feeling of emptiness because it wasn't as final as the Walter character.
Recall what Jesse had said and done.  He had nowhere to hide, nothing left to bargain with.  Yea he was free from this instance, but before long every door he opened was about to slam shut.  Jesse was cooked, pardon the term of art.

To bret's point, I think Walter did have a hold over Jesse in the sense that Jesse had nothing else and he knew it.
To say he would have been better off without Walter and the meth biz is misleading.  Sure he was in charge of himself at all times but squeezing through a tiny window of what his life was or waltzing through ball room doors with Walter is not an equal choice.
But it is a choice he made and I believe that is what the writers wanted the viewer to experience about him.  Like all of us, reconsidering our decisions and where are in life because of them.
My .02 anyway.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Sakura on October 22, 2014, 04:32:45 AM
The Thick of It starring Peter Capaldi (who would later go on to play The Doctor in Doctor Who) is a pretty good political spin series revolving around British politics.  Very good show, but unfortunately far too short.  The first two seasons comprise of six episodes in total, and all four seasons of the show is 21 episodes in length.  The Malcom Tucker character would also star in the movie In The Loop.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on October 22, 2014, 06:59:27 PM
Finally got around to finishing Californication. I had that on pause for a couple of years.
Waiting for SOA and Walking Dead to finish up so I can blow through them, and I think True Blood is over, so I will have to finish up the last season there, other than that, I've pretty well exhausted my list.  Ill have to get back to adding to it again.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on November 07, 2014, 07:29:59 PM
I forgot all about True Blood that I had keyed up so I watched the last season a couple of days ago.
TB sorta went the way of Dexter IMO in that there was a bit of a drop off but TB didn't mail in the final season like Dex.
In similar situations Ill say Im glad I saw it, for closure, since I was heavily invested in the series.  While I really enjoy TB, I really coulda done without this one.
There was nothing over the top that put me off about it, it just didn't keep me reeled in like before.
Watch it if you are up through season 6, but if you are only to season 5, thats a good place to stop unless you are like me and have to see it through.

Hurry up SOA!
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Rigg44 on November 24, 2014, 03:14:59 PM
A recent show I loved was Longmire.  It was canceled but has been picked up by Netflix  http://www.enstarz.com/articles/51593/20141122/longmire-season-4-news-crime-dramas-robert-taylor-overjoyed-by-netflix-pickup-his-new-message-to-fans-video.htm
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on January 02, 2015, 02:01:31 AM
While waiting for Newsroom and Homeland to finish up their current runs, I decided to fire up The Office...again...for the fifth time...
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 02, 2015, 09:15:00 AM
While waiting for Newsroom and Homeland to finish up their current runs, I decided to fire up The Office...again...for the fifth time...

Love that show, but it's been awhile-need to fire that one up again. Have you checked out Parks & Recreation? That's been one of my favorites of late, I think you'd enjoy that one.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on January 02, 2015, 04:06:16 PM
I just can't stay away, the Office is so watchable.
I have not seen P&R. I might have to give it a shot. I initially strayed from it because Im just not a fan of Amy Poehler, I tend to think she is given too much credit. But, since I am running out of things to line up, perhaps I should whisk away my perceptions and go with it...
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 05, 2015, 01:56:47 AM
I just can't stay away, the Office is so watchable.
I have not seen P&R. I might have to give it a shot. I initially strayed from it because Im just not a fan of Amy Poehler, I tend to think she is given too much credit. But, since I am running out of things to line up, perhaps I should whisk away my perceptions and go with it...

Ah, gotcha-absolutely love her, but the cast overall just works great together. Ron Swanson might be one of my all-time favorite characters.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on January 05, 2015, 02:41:42 AM
I've got it in line, and I should add, I haven't seen enough of her work to make a fair assessment, just a pre conceived notion based on nothing lol
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 05, 2015, 07:33:27 PM
I'd also recommend Castle, but I don't see that streaming anywhere.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on January 10, 2015, 01:42:22 AM
uhhh, P and R IS The Office!
Completely killed it for me. Female Michael Scott, Dwight, Jim.....ugh.
Almost made ith through season one, might try again later but now.... fail.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on January 12, 2015, 06:05:10 PM
so I was right in the middle of an Office run when I veered off to give P&R a chance so although I am firm in my stance that it is the Office part 2, I will probably give it another chance after I complete this run and let a little time pass so they wont be seen so close together.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on January 12, 2015, 06:20:57 PM
btw, HOC S3 trailer...

I would not be surprised if this is the last season.

Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: rollntider on January 13, 2015, 04:27:25 PM
it is supposed to be according to rumors.... but there is nothing left for him to do after this season anyways.... except maybe become a greeter at the "wall marks"    ???
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: thaima1shu on February 17, 2015, 11:57:04 PM
Any of you guys watching the show Fresh off the Boat? Man I'm loving this. So much of this that I can relate to growing up that it's scary. So funny, though!
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: TheNorm on February 18, 2015, 10:38:09 AM
Any of you guys watching the show Fresh off the Boat? Man I'm loving this. So much of this that I can relate to growing up that it's scary. So funny, though!

My new favorite too, and I absolutely agree-there's a lot I can relate to as well. The mom is my favorite by far, and young Eddie cracks me up.

I really want to check out the book now, heard plenty of good things about it!
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: rollntider on March 02, 2015, 10:18:18 PM
House of cards Season 3... weekend time sink ........
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: TheNorm on April 10, 2015, 11:58:04 PM
so I was right in the middle of an Office run when I veered off to give P&R a chance so although I am firm in my stance that it is the Office part 2, I will probably give it another chance after I complete this run and let a little time pass so they wont be seen so close together.

Probably gonna be an unpopular opinion, but: I think Parks & Rec was better than The Office. Sure, the first season might've seemed like a retread, but it gets so much better in later seasons. The characters develop, they don't make Leslie out to be as ditzy as she was in the first year...yep, absolutely love this show.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: TheNorm on April 11, 2015, 12:03:49 AM
So this just dropped on Netflix today, another addition to the Marvel Universe: Daredevil. First two episodes are really really good, and worth checking out.

Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: rollntider on April 12, 2015, 10:37:18 PM
Yep Liking daredevil. Game of thrones started today also.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on April 15, 2015, 04:34:38 PM
so I was right in the middle of an Office run when I veered off to give P&R a chance so although I am firm in my stance that it is the Office part 2, I will probably give it another chance after I complete this run and let a little time pass so they wont be seen so close together.

Probably gonna be an unpopular opinion, but: I think Parks & Rec was better than The Office. Sure, the first season might've seemed like a retread, but it gets so much better in later seasons. The characters develop, they don't make Leslie out to be as ditzy as she was in the first year...yep, absolutely love this show.
hey, Im the one that goes against the grain ;-)
But yea, you're on your own here. I cannot see myself ever suggesting P&R is better than the office, but Ill let it marinate for a bit and try again.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: TheNorm on April 22, 2015, 09:18:20 AM
Finished off Season 1 of Daredevil, and I was impressed. Probably one of Marvel's best series yet...and the only drawback is now I have yet another comic book character I'd like to know more about. Series totally makes up for that joke of a movie from 2003.

Also has been confirmed that there will be a Season 2.  :woot:
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: rollntider on April 22, 2015, 10:28:49 AM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/galaxy-quest-tv-series-works-790532

Galaxy quest.

Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: TheNorm on November 22, 2015, 12:05:54 PM
Some awesome new things popping up on Netflix and Amazon Prime video the last few weeks.

Masters of None with Aziz Ansari: watched the first two episodes so far and really enjoyed it. Mild NSFW trailer - language.


Marvel's Jessica Jones just dropped on Netflix this past Friday...really need to getting around to watching this one, trailers have looked amazing.


While I've never read the book, Philip K. Dick's The Man in the High Castle was turned into a series by Amazon that also just premiered this last Friday. First episode was great, and can't wait to have time to watch a little bit more.

Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on December 29, 2015, 07:08:16 PM
Jessica Jones
Krysten Ritter

Ritter does a good job and the MU was integrated fairly well, but the storytelling/directing left me wanting and wondering too often.
However, it almost seems forgivable due to Ritter's performance which was solid all the way through, not stellar, but good.
Overall, I feel sorta meh afterwards; not like it was a waste of time, but moreso wondering if I want to see what's next.
i probably will, but I'm not truly excited about it.
3.25/5
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on January 07, 2016, 12:59:49 AM
Better Call Saul

An easy 10 episode season watch for the Breaking Bad prequel.
Can I spoil a prequel since you already know...?
Nevermind, Ill avoid potentials. Obviously this is a ride to find out how Saul arrived in BB and let me say the ride is entertaining. The interesting thing is, there is a timeline here so Im not sure how they will compact or expand the story as it relates to the number of seasons for Saul.
That said, its a good story, well told with some obvious foreshadowing, simply by virtue of being a prequel
but it still captures mystery and edginess.
Makes me want to go right into BB now...

4.25/5
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on January 13, 2016, 11:56:42 PM
Mr. Robot

Norm, I feel as though I must apologize. In another thread some time ago, I was all caught up on my watches and asked for suggestions. You brought up a couple of shows on USA and I scoffed, mumbling something about that network just making cartoony hour long sitcoms.
Not so. I happened upon this series and was immediately enthralled and engulfed in this cyber thriller series.
Its unlike any hacker fest ive seen, in that they keep hacks reasonable and relatable, not a lot of techno babble or inventive fictional scenarios.
Christian Slater and Rami Malek are superb throughout. Some of the support is a toych weak, but such an envigorating, deep story covers those flaws.
Its also unique in that it breaches the 4th wall, but not in the style of House of Cards...I cant elaborate, but youll see.
After the seeing the debut season, I did a quick read about the inception and turns out tjis was initially scripted as a film but was scrapped for tv because there as simply too much of a story to cram into 2 hours. The season finale represents the end of act one in the film.
I coyld say much more about the concept but it would involve spoilers.
Check this out.

4.5 / 5
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 14, 2016, 12:51:18 AM
Dammit, I've been meaning to watch that one but got so busy this summer I just lost track of it. Gonna need to catch up because I've heard that show was incredible. Thanks for the heads up!
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on January 14, 2016, 12:34:19 PM
Yea, Id A list that one
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on March 15, 2016, 12:29:55 AM
30 for 30
Fantastic Lies

You should know by now that I seethe with serious hostility when the Duke Lacrosse case is mentioned. Part of me didn't want to watch this but the part of me that wanted to won out.
Bottom line, watch it.
Media. Good lord the media. They are inching so close to politicians in a battle for the the lowest in decaying behavior.
Im not alone when I speak about my severe disdain about the so called journalists in this country. Barely a shred of integrity and especially objectiveness exist in this shithole we call America and this case magnifies how it has negative consequences of monumental proportions and yet it continues to spew whatever agenda is put forth to be most beneficial to them or that of their puppeteer.
No one held responsible, no one is sorry, certainly not that twat Nancy Grace. Well, wait, one reporter in the show did offer a printed apology, granted, maybe there were others, but if so, they were of such small consequence, no one noticed. Retractions sure weren't worthy of year long coverage.
And then there's Nifong, who luxuriates in retirement. Oh sure, he's disbarred, but so what? Yea he has lawsuits against him but so what? he's protected by bankruptcy. And don't you think its ironic that this self righteous, ego maniacal common criminal, who attempted to mete out punishment to so called elitist white well to do criminals who hid behind wealth and class, is doing that very thing?
He spent one day in jail.
One fucking day.
God Bless America.

/rant
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: rollntider on March 17, 2016, 10:13:03 PM
This season of House of cards has improved. Although it will be hard to capture that 1st season success, its still better than the last season. So if you like me did not like season 3, season 4 is better.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: TheNorm on April 04, 2016, 12:03:28 AM
I didn't think Walking Dead could botch the intro of a new character like Negan, but they did it with that cliffhanger. What a bunch of crap...all the emotional build up and they do that. Lame...
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on April 04, 2016, 12:27:08 AM
I agree about HOC.
Spoiler: show
Although, why must every single political show have the cliche assassination?
I get why they did it, to strengthen Claire, but still

Spacey and Wright are simply, money.
Underwood is the white collar Tony Soprano. He's a bad guy but he is so charismatic and good at what he does, we root for his success and demise at the same time.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: rollntider on April 04, 2016, 10:52:22 PM
Walking dead

Spoiler: show
Agree, we could have seen who was beaten. Also being the apocalypse, no way they are that organized.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: TheNorm on April 05, 2016, 12:22:11 PM
Walking dead

Spoiler: show
Agree, we could have seen who was beaten. Also being the apocalypse, no way they are that organized.


I'll agree with the first part of that statement. A brand new show pulling that off, I don't have much of a problem with. An established show like TWD that uses the gimmick on a regular basis, to me that's just lazy. Read somewhere that even the actors don't know who died yet, which just leads me to believe that even the writers aren't sure who they want to off yet...make a damn decision already.

As far as post-apocalypse organization, I disagree. If you figure that the series is probably at least 1-2 years post outbreak, I can see groups of survivors being organized in small communities at that point.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: rollntider on April 06, 2016, 04:03:16 PM


I'll agree with the first part of that statement. A brand new show pulling that off, I don't have much of a problem with. An established show like TWD that uses the gimmick on a regular basis, to me that's just lazy. Read somewhere that even the actors don't know who died yet, which just leads me to believe that even the writers aren't sure who they want to off yet...make a damn decision already.

As far as post-apocalypse organization, I disagree. If you figure that the series is probably at least 1-2 years post outbreak, I can see groups of survivors being organized in small communities at that point.
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I could see that, but they are too organized.

also
Spoiler: show
 a few plot holes or Issues I do have with the story so far.

#1 Abraham is former military, Eugune is former genious nerd, neither could figure out a plan to scout ahead and keep from getting caught?
#2 Daryl ran off hot headed and got them caught. He has been doing this how long now?
#3 Abraham can't drive a stick?
#4 your doctor is out on scavenge missions? Why not let her satisfy her need to get out on a smaller closer to home mission?
#5 eugene is going to make bullets? OK they are not picking up their brass casing, and where will they get the other supplies? Making lead is the least of the problems with that. Consult a gun nut first :)


Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on May 16, 2016, 08:13:16 PM
Making a Murderer

I resisted watching this show because I knew it would raise my ire and that I had to be in a mood to even take it in.
Well, it did, I was and I did.
Story revolves around Steven Avery, a redneck in rural Wisconsin who was imprisoned for a sexual assault and exonerated some 18 years later.
He then is arrested for the murder of a woman all the while proclaiming his innocence yet again.

The series begins with his release after 18 years and then we are dealt his backstory in smaller doses while examine the evidence and laying groundwork for the upcoming scenario.
By then, you are up to episode four or so and the rest of the ten deal with the murder trial and related investigations.
This crime doc is really well put together, amazingly so in fact, at least for me.
Three things were at the forefront of my mind after this and one was, what amazing patience, tenacity and focus these filmmakers possessed. Somehow, they were able to obtain access to the Avery family throughout this ordeal and were able to capture emotion of events as they transpired as well as working with official footage from the courts and police and other legal endeavors, weaving it in and out of the storyline to give the viewer a clearer picture.
Ill reserve other impressions due to spoilers, however, I can tell you one of the other three things in my mind not only after this, but before and during.
Don't
talk
to
the
cops!
EVER!

That, was beyond infuriating in this series, but maybe thats just me. And Ill add, just for my own reasons, I don't mean if you get pulled over, yea sure, where you going? Home. Where were you? Work, and on and on. I think most of us rationally sane folks could detect when to shut up if we visualized a My Cousin Vinny situation brewing, but if you are being interrogated, at home, street, wherever…shut the fuck up!
This is not a cop hating thing, even cops tell you, don't talk to the cops.
/soapbox

So yea, give it a look. Put together seamlessly, pacing is slower, more methodical at times, mainly due to the nature of the topic, and admittedly, that could be because, if you are like me, I want to blow through to the end as you see, Im the hipster binge watcher and was one long before there was a term to coin this type of event  ;-)
Watch it examine our justice system and scrutinize for your self and then come back here and talk to me because I'd like to hear your thoughts.

Spoiler: show

Anyone who ever followed pro wrestling, or is familiar with Hitchcock could've seen the outcome, because it is entertainment, after all.  Nonetheless, absolutely fascinating story about our justice system

 
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Rigg44 on August 19, 2016, 11:42:51 AM
didn't i see in the news that guy was just released or is being granted a new trial?
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Sakura on August 22, 2016, 06:18:34 AM
didn't i see in the news that guy was just released or is being granted a new trial?
His nephew was released based on prosecutorial misconduct from a statement given under coercion.  He himself is still held, the white house has issued a statement that they can't do anything on Avery's behalf that it must be via the county and state legal system, and the entire legal system of the state refuses to even hear his appeal; they continue to reject any and all appeals.  There's proof of evidence tampering and the same Sheriff's department which was being accused of evidence tampering and producing false evidence made themselves part of the investigation into the matter; they "managed to find evidence" (when the actual designated police department wasn't present) that is damning, that other teams failed to find.

It's believed by Avery and his family that the entire murder case is a hush operation, as Avery had a $36 million lawsuit against the state justice department after his exoneration from an overturned conviction where he was railroaded to be convicted of raping a woman for unknown reasons; now they believe that the latest reason is because he was trying to sue for those millions.

I didn't watch the series, this is what I read on wikipedia, and I have no interest at all in watching it; but this kind of thing really does piss me off.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: rollntider on August 22, 2016, 11:17:24 AM
I watched the show I also watched some rebuttals from various sources.

My take is I am not sure what to think. The rebuttal videos pointed out the show left out a lot of information. But the show pointed out some inconsistencies that would/should/could cause reasonable doubt in a trial. If you watch the show, i think one should see the other side also.

Spoiler: show
A few things from that show that even the rebuttal people have not been able to explain

#1 they found a shell casing that supposedly killed the lady, in a nasty dirty garage, but no blood spatter or DNA anywhere?
#2 the very cops that hated the man found damning evidence in the middle of the floor hours after a 3rd party sherrifs office was investigating that spot for hours?
#3 Her brother or friend was deleting messages on her phone after her death? WTF is that about?
#4 Blood evidence in the blazer is too convenient
#5 The coerced testimony from the kid and family not that bright and easily confused.



My opinion is that the lady was murdered by someone not affiliated with Avery
The crooked sherriffs dept then framed the man and began to plant suspect evidence. 


Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on August 23, 2016, 12:18:13 AM
To sakura's statement about evidence tampering, there was none against Dassey, and I mean no tampering because there was no evidence, none. They lied, cajoled, played on his emotional instability/weakness and flat out "made a murderer."  All they had to convict him were his statements, and theirs that they attributed to him.

As for the lawsuit retaliation, I firmly believe that was simply dramatic license. Like I said, this was entertainment ultimately.
We can discuss Avery all day long. After seeing what evidence was not covered in the doc as well as extracting the guided emotions from what was presented I feel he's guilty.
To tiders points
Spoiler: show

I don't recall #1 but I can believe there were aspects of tampering as well as unanswered questions; I too wondered about #3. As for 2, well, I can believe that too if you truly visualize the scene. Cops sweep the room, not really physically poking around unless it's moving covers on the bed, floor etc...
Next batch comes in and conducts a deeper search, rattles the nightstand and there ya go. The way it was presented was to illicit ire but seems reasonable to me. Also Avery seems just that stupid too.

It's been a while but what else bothered me was that they said she was killed in the bed but there was no blood and they never discussed that fact.
Something about the fire pit bothered me too but I can't remember exactly. Something about driving to the pit, but, the pit was right outside the garage where she was supposedly killed, again.
I'm usually one to err on the side of innocence and had I been on the jury maybe I would have, but given everything I've read, seems a lot of evidence against him, much of it not in the doc.

Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: rollntider on August 23, 2016, 01:45:03 AM
https://justiceforbradcooper.wordpress.com/2016/01/05/analysis-of-evidence-in-the-teresa-halbach-investigation-making-a-murderer-documentary/

this is a pro Avery site be fore warned.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on August 23, 2016, 11:36:16 AM
I might take a look at it on some down time. I think there was obviously some questionable behavior by cops, et al, but that doesn't mean he's not guilty. I think this case is akin to OJ

Edit to add; I just re read my previous post and it sounds curt, but that wasn't my intention.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: rollntider on August 23, 2016, 05:21:13 PM
Its cool Crewe,  but that site shows the shell casings I was talking about.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Sakura on August 24, 2016, 06:11:29 AM
Just saying, but maybe the Avery discussion should get its own thread.  :D
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on August 24, 2016, 11:27:26 PM
Its cool Crewe,  but that site shows the shell casings I was talking about.

There's so much information around this case it's difficult to sort through. Things I found put forth as bona fide fact turned out later to be false and people still cite as true. Way too much information for me to make an informed decision about Avery. I will say that Dassey most certainly should be freed and his attorney thrown in prison. The interrogating cops need their asses beat.

I enjoy the discussion, and yea maybe needs its own thread
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: rollntider on May 25, 2017, 02:52:55 PM

will give that a shot
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: rollntider on June 27, 2017, 02:37:57 PM
stuff leaving netflix

9/11: Stories in Fragments

America's Secret D-Day Disaster

American Pie Presents: Band Camp

American Pie Presents: Beta House

American Pie Presents: The Naked Mile

An Unmarried Woman

Angus, Thongs and Perfect Snogging

Batman

Black Wings

Blazing Saddles

Blondie's New York

Bombs, Bullets and Fraud

Day of the Kamikaze

Death Beach

El Dorado

Flicka 2

Futurama, season 1-6

Gentlemen Prefer Blondes

Ghost Whisperer

Hello, Dolly!

Hip Hop: The Furious Force of Rhymes

History in HD: The Last Bomb

Hugo

Kate & Leopold

MacGyver

Mystery Files: Hitler

Nazi Temple of Doom

Samurai Headhunters

Secrets: A Viking Map?

Secrets: Richard III Revealed

Secrets: The Sphinx

Shuttle Discovery's Last Mission

The Hunt for Bin Laden

The Incredible Bionic Man

Titanic's Final Mystery

While You Were Sleeping

Working Girl

July 3

The Last Samurai

Two Weeks Notice

July 6

Los Heroes del Norte, season 1-2

July 11

Opposite Field

July 12

Adventures of Pepper and Paula

In the Basement

Sleeping Beauty

July 13

Kevin Hart: Laugh at My Pain

July 15

All That Glitters

Lessons for a Kiss
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on June 28, 2017, 11:29:40 AM
Nothing on my list there.
I was able to get to The Hustler before it was removed recently. Such a good flick
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Luggnutz on June 28, 2017, 02:54:12 PM
Better hurry and catch "Angus, Thongs and Perfect Snogging" before its gone then !
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: rollntider on June 30, 2017, 09:32:28 PM
lol whats that
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on August 29, 2017, 01:26:01 AM
Alright, I'm caught up, again.
I need suggestions on decent....scratch that....good tv shows, and I mean depth. I hate the paint by number storytelling.
Off the list, recently.
Better Call Saul
Americans
Bloodlines
HOC
The Killing
The Fall

shelved Vikings, just couldn't get into it. Perhaps I'll revisit it

Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: TheNorm on August 29, 2017, 09:15:05 AM
I've heard Justified is good, but I've never seen it.
Not sure if I've mentioned this before, but Parks & Recreation is pretty good.  :P
Chuck was one of my favorites, but I don't think it's available anywhere streaming at the moment.  >:(
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on August 30, 2017, 12:01:08 AM
I've heard that about justified as well but I think it was abruptly cancelled after 2 seasons. They did that with deadwood, but maybe I'll give it a look.
I'd hate to really enjoy it and then have an unplanned end.
I'm Office and decidedly not P&C whereas I know you are the opposite 😋😋😁
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: TheNorm on August 31, 2017, 09:51:43 AM
Justified went six seasons, so you should be good. :)
As for Parks & Rec/The Office, I enjoyed both...just felt The Office went a season or two too long.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on September 01, 2017, 07:14:19 AM
Six? You know, I think I may be getting it mixed up with that Dennis Quaid series a while back. Can't recall the name but I think it got cut too early.
Agree on the Office although I still watch season 8. Nine was salvageable and a good enough finish.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: rollntider on November 02, 2017, 01:31:09 AM
Just finished up stranger things. Liked 2nd season better.

It started slow and got better. I really enjoyed it. I am curious how they keep it going.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: thaima1shu on November 02, 2017, 12:13:53 PM
Think I feel the same, thought the second season was a tad bit better. Loved both seasons regardless, though.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on November 03, 2017, 05:37:25 PM
I need to give this one a spin now. I liked the first season. I wasn't in love with it though. Maybe I should add this in the unpopular opinion thread ;-)
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Bucfever on November 03, 2017, 07:52:27 PM
I'm the same way. My girlfriend and I quit watching the first season after 3 episodes. Eventually she went back and watched the rest and convinced me to do the same. I didn't outright hate it, but I wasn't anywhere near as enamored with it as THE ENTIRE REST OF THE COUNTRY apparently is.

That being said, we both felt season two was a HUGE improvement, minus episode 7. Much happier with this season than last. And pretty much everyone acts the hell out of it, but special props to the guys and kids playing Jim, Will and Steve. Plus Sean Astin because of course Sean Astin deserves props.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on January 04, 2018, 05:55:44 PM
After some prodding, I watched Godless recently.
Lets start at the end...did I like it? Yes.
Love it? No.
Watch it again? No

Pros: Beautifully captured and presented. Original story with a few original characters. Jeff Daniels as the baddie was awesome.
There was depth to some main characters and it was well acted and directed through and through.

Cons: The series left me with serious questions about some plot points in an otherwise well told saga.
Other characters should have been explored more given the length of the series.

Spoiler: show
The ending was entertaining and fun to watch but wasn't based in reality too much.
The entire logic of being enclosed in an "iron and brick dwelling that won't burn" is simply flawed.
Gunfight in the town of black soldiers did not follow the foreshadowing that these were all witty, tough, prepared Civil War veterans when they were simply wiped out by Daniels and hiss gang.
The newspaper man who instigated the entire ending massacre didn't receive one ounce of comeuppance.
Oh and the preacher who finally arrived, sheesh.
Alice Fletcher, at the end, basically traded from one dude to another. it just screamed, Im done with her, your turn.
I know Im interpreting that scene in a jaded sense but I can't be the only one with that emotion.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on January 06, 2018, 03:15:34 AM
Black Mirror Season 4

You know what it is and if you liked it before, nothing I say here will stop you from watching.
The social commentary is prevalent as you would expect but season 4 is, by far, the worst of the four seasons.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 14, 2018, 06:53:09 PM
Just found out that Hulu acquired the streaming rights to ER...about time a streaming service picked this one up. This show was my jam back in the day.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on February 12, 2018, 12:00:22 AM
From the tv challenge thread, buc said Six Feet Under was his favorite show bar none.
I recently finished up my current watches and had nothing on tap so I tackled season one.

Six Feet Under, S1

A family business that is a funeral parlor. Mom, dad, two boys and a girl, some ten plus years behind the boys all living in a house attached to a funeral home complete with an undertaker lab. Great setting for telling the story of family life in America.
It's mostly serious, some comedy but with real direction thus far.
I like the cast, and I can see why if this had any bearing on Michael Hall landing the role of Dexter. Although, I'm not really sold on Krausse, he's fine n all, but just doesn't resonate enough with me. Lauren Ambrose and France's Conroy are serious money.
The storytelling leaves me wondering at times but a first season is usually to find footing so let's see what happens.
On to season 2
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Bucfever on March 23, 2018, 01:33:46 PM
So, at work, if things aren't breaking left and right then there's not much for us to do, since our job is to communicate when things are breaking left and right.

So some people watch Youtube, look at reddit, facebook etc during downtime. So I've decided I'm going to watch the entire Twilight Zone series on Netflix. Obviously not binge watching all at once, but still.

I've seen maybe 3 or 4 episodes my entire life, and I've always wanted to, so might as well.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: rollntider on March 26, 2018, 11:14:38 PM
Started 6 feet based on Buc. 6 episodes in.... so far its ok, its quirky, but I am still trying to figure it out.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on March 27, 2018, 11:24:41 AM
I got sidetracked after Season 1, I need to jump back in. I began er watching The Wire again
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: TheNorm on March 27, 2018, 11:38:27 AM
So, at work, if things aren't breaking left and right then there's not much for us to do, since our job is to communicate when things are breaking left and right.

So some people watch Youtube, look at reddit, facebook etc during downtime. So I've decided I'm going to watch the entire Twilight Zone series on Netflix. Obviously not binge watching all at once, but still.

I've seen maybe 3 or 4 episodes my entire life, and I've always wanted to, so might as well.

Missed this a few days ago...love the Twilight Zone, some episodes are absolute classics.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Bucfever on March 27, 2018, 05:20:17 PM
I'm hooked, which I expected to be. I love anthology shows. Black Mirror, Easy on Netflix (highly recommended), Room 104 on HBO. But of course, Twilight Zone is an absolute classic.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on March 28, 2018, 10:38:54 AM
man, I haven't watched the Twilight Zone in decades
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: TheNorm on March 28, 2018, 01:15:30 PM
I usually catch quite a few of the episodes during SyFy's NYE marathon...not a bad way to spend part of the day.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on April 03, 2018, 03:17:42 PM
Anyone here a fan of The Wire?
Im on my 3rd time through and I really appreciate the depth of the storytelling.
The first time I tried to watch, I was about two episodes in and dumped it. After about a year I started over and stuck with it, which you have to do because it is an unbelievably slow burn. Id suggest turning on subtitles your first time if you are not tuned in to the urban lingo lol
Sopranos, Deadwood and The Wire are my top 3. Many include The Shield up there but Ive only been through it one time. I would run it in my top 5 right now.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: TheNorm on April 03, 2018, 09:34:41 PM
Love The Wire! Easily one of HBO's best shows.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: rollntider on April 04, 2018, 10:53:04 AM
Might have to give the wire a shot. I am almost done with season 2 of 6 feet.

Spoiler: show
I hate Nate's GF/ Fiance` with a passion, she fucks anything and gets pissed at him for a one time indiscretion. I hope they dont get married. Its a good show but they are not consistent in my book. Seems like you can go several episodes without a dead person hallucination then you have several.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on April 04, 2018, 11:59:34 AM
ive got to get back to six feet, Ill be starting season 2.
id be interested to hear your thoughts on the wire if you give it a look
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Bucfever on April 04, 2018, 12:05:32 PM
Never seen The Wire, although I have heard that it hasn't aged well. Is that an accurate statement, do you think?
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on April 04, 2018, 12:10:17 PM
People say that because the Wire references wiretaps and the show starts out tracking gangsters using pagers and pay phones, so in that respect, yes and thats fair. But its also missing the point, which is how the wire progresses with technology and ultimately the star is overlooked which is the city of Baltimore and its institutions as well as those of our society.
If you despise paint by number traditional prime time tv and have the patience, The Wire may be for you. And if you make it through once, you'll then like it more as you re watch, ala most of the top tier programs.
That of course, is only my opinion.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: TheNorm on May 06, 2018, 09:50:42 PM
I was really apprehensive at first when it was announced, but Cobra Kai was impressive. I was worried they were going to make a mockery of the original source material, but they treated it with respect and this was a smart, well written show.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Bucfever on May 07, 2018, 11:39:15 AM
Hi everyone, I am here to tell you, quite simply, to watch HBO's "Barry," with Bill Hader, because it's easily the best show on TV right now.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: TheNorm on May 10, 2018, 11:45:44 PM
Relevant because I finally started watching Brooklyn Nine-Nine this year...of course. The shot at MSU hoops in this post cushions the blow a little bit. :D

Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: rollntider on May 11, 2018, 10:55:07 AM
Lost in space is a decent show. Its not the best, but it was good.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on May 14, 2018, 06:10:05 PM
I was really apprehensive at first when it was announced, but Cobra Kai was impressive. I was worried they were going to make a mockery of the original source material, but they treated it with respect and this was a smart, well written show.

I just saw the trailer for this. Interesting. Worth a watch?

Anyone watched or heard about Killer Eve?
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Bucfever on May 14, 2018, 06:58:13 PM
I've seen people rave about Killing Eve online and on Twitter. Girl and I finished Barry last night (well, it was the season finale last night), so I think we may pick that up.

Also, seriously guys, watch Barry. It was only 8 episodes and absolutely incredible.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on May 14, 2018, 08:26:00 PM
I saw that when flipping through...HBO, was it? Might have to flag the one too as Im running low in my queue
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Bucfever on May 14, 2018, 09:24:50 PM
Definitely do. You won't regret it.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Rigg44 on May 17, 2018, 05:01:51 PM
I've seen people rave about Killing Eve online and on Twitter. Girl and I finished Barry last night (well, it was the season finale last night), so I think we may pick that up.

Also, seriously guys, watch Barry. It was only 8 episodes and absolutely incredible.

Agree this show is great
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: TheNorm on May 17, 2018, 11:44:11 PM
I was really apprehensive at first when it was announced, but Cobra Kai was impressive. I was worried they were going to make a mockery of the original source material, but they treated it with respect and this was a smart, well written show.

I just saw the trailer for this. Interesting. Worth a watch?

Anyone watched or heard about Killer Eve?

Absolutely, yes if you really enjoyed the original Karate Kid...since that's a Top 5 80's movie for me it was a foregone conclusion that I'd at least check it out. Worth the time.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: TheNorm on May 21, 2018, 09:35:45 PM
Where I work it seems like the tv in the break room is on one of two channels (until I change it anyway): Food Network or HGTV. I couldn't care less about most of the shows on either of those channels, but Love It or List It is one I've found quite addicting.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: rollntider on May 22, 2018, 11:36:41 AM
I like chopped and diners drive ins and dives
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on June 28, 2018, 11:27:39 PM
I meant to post this the other day, but I ramped up Six Feet Under again and just finished Season 4
So spoilers just in case
Spoiler: show

thus far I like the show.
I never realized what a good actor Michael C. Hall was until seeing his diversity in this series. I still don't think Krausse was the right guy for Nate, but he's not bad. Claire is spot on.
The storytelling is pretty good so far, it seems to stay on target pretty much although lagging in spots which any series will do given a good run.
A few characters were given more screen time than necessary and also used as fillers, i.e Billy Chenowith for example.
Really no surprises, I mean early on you know exactly what will happen to Nate but its how they approach it and still direct a good story.
Ill add that I seriously doubt intake interviews with the families are so consistently therapeutic as shown here. None of the funerals Ive had to head up resemble anything close the emotional scenes depicted on Six Feet, but I get it, we need drama.
Im enjoying it thus far and hope to finish up soon....
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Bucfever on June 28, 2018, 11:43:24 PM
I'm so proud of you Crewe. I love that show and it's one of the best.

Meanwhile the fiance and I have been watching Riverdale, which is absolutely campy trash and we love every moment of it.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on June 29, 2018, 12:02:02 AM
I'm so proud of you Crewe. I love that show and it's one of the best.

Meanwhile the fiance and I have been watching Riverdale, which is absolutely campy trash and we love every moment of it.

lol campy trash
yea, I would have never given this a look had you not touted it here. Im enjoying it
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: TheNorm on June 30, 2018, 01:59:04 PM
Throwing this out there again: Brooklyn Nine-Nine is pretty damn funny and worth checking out.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Bucfever on June 30, 2018, 02:41:39 PM
Throwing this out there again: Brooklyn Nine-Nine is pretty damn funny and worth checking out.

My kid's in the middle of watching this so I've heard snippets while he's been visiting. I think the fiance and I will pick it up once we're done with this season of Queer Eye and season 2 of Riverdale. Finally caught up on MasterChef so that's one less show on the list (although we still need to watch the Preacher premiere).
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on July 04, 2018, 12:51:32 AM
ok six feet under complaints, however trite they may be, still piss me off, not only here but in every show or movie...

Brenda is supposed to be somewhat knowledgeable about recreational drugs, so for gods sake could someone at least teach the actress how to hit a bong?
And ole lady Fisher, whose character admittedly doesn't like tequila, swigs about the equivalent of two to three shots like it was water with no reaction, at all. Look, I like tequila, and I drink it often, but no flipping way I can take a chug like that and shrug it off like it was iced tea.
Fuckin hell man, its not that hard to impart some semblance of reality. It just grinds my gears.

Sorry. As you were...
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: rollntider on July 05, 2018, 08:42:02 PM
I did 2 seasons of six feet under. I need to get back to it
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on July 15, 2018, 10:33:40 PM
I just completed Six Feet Under, and with a caveat, I must say that is the finest tearjerking finale Ive ever seen.
Spoilers....
Spoiler: show
Now, Im sure Im misinterpreting this bit, but the finale ending was fine, it was great, until, we started flashing forward 80 years seeing all the cast die off in a music montage. Was this supposed to be for the viewer? Was it Claire reconciling life? I just can't see a need to add that in on top of what was a stellar closing scene. In any event, I really liked the show. Is it one of my top ever? I dunno, it could possibly squeeze The Shield out.
So here's my take on the characters:
Chenowith family.
They are all fucked, especially the mom which I guess was the point of Billy and Brenda being so messed up. That said, Billy was on a level all his own and I felt like they squeezed an arc in for him just because he was Brenda's brother and contributed to her convoluted life. Speaking of, Brenda, with her IQ and attitude was a twat like her mom, albeit not as bad. Her fears and torment are real and palpable, I just didn't enjoy her selfishness much.

Ruth Fisher is in contention for one of my favorites although that was an epic act of treachery dumping George like that, making him think they were moving in together.
I truly felt for her and the scene with her at Nate's funeral was downright devastating as was her scene in the finale with Claire. It made me think of Sally Field in Steel Magnolias.

David & Kieth. I liked these guys. We were allowed to see why Keith had his issues, but we didn't dive in further than we needed too and David's journey, although a bit amped up at the end, was really well told and supremely acted.

Federico and Vanessa were up and down, but overall I liked them. I didn't like Vanessa's sudden turn to good after being cold to Rico despite inviting him back him just to do chores. However, I did enjoy Rico's character devolve. I man we see him on a high note from the start, but as the series moves on, we get to see what a socially awkward inept man he really is and had he not found Vanessa in high school, who knows how he would have turned out. He could never get out of his own way, always screwing things up for himself, after separating of course.

George was one I didn't really latch on to after the shock treatments. I felt it was just glossed over that he was back to normal, but I really enjoyed the dynamic he brought to Ruth's character.

Melissa was a good one too but I sometimes felt she was filler, but maybe not as she played an integral part with Nate at the end.

And speaking of Nate, it was interesting seeing him develop as the main character, I mean it could have been anyone really, but him being tied with Brenda and all that baggage from the outset, well you knew that was the centerpiece.
I wasn't sure, even through two seasons that Krausse was the best actor for Nate, but afterwards, I think he did a wonderful job.
His character was always on the verge of understanding what he wanted his life to be and that happiness was the key but he cold never fully dive in without being jerked back into the old ways.

Lisa Fisher was one I really liked, a lot, until she trapped Nate. She ended up being the catalyst for Nate's demise, sending him back to Brenda without a chance of sincere happiness. I don't think they had to turn her into such a hard villain, but I suppose it worked, especially once we discover the means at which she met her end.

Then we come to Claire the teenage angst, the artsy lisberalwith no direction of life, the outcast. I appreciated how she was developed, without a loss of devotion to her family despite her darker path for a while. And by the way, what the ever lovin fuck with so many strangers living at that house?
Strangers at the family breakfast table no-ones ever seen before taking part in family business....that was really a stretch for me.
Strained relationship with her mom in later seasons only naturally reconcile through growth and maturity on both their parts. To have her take off like that, by the seat of her pants? I think thats something that is relatable to more than a few of us, or Ill speak for myself, but wonderful storytelling.

I don't know that I could watch it again, but I dont know that Id have to
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Bucfever on July 18, 2018, 05:46:13 PM
So what's everyone watching right now?

Current seasons of Masterchef and Food Network Star are on, so the fiance and I have been keeping up with those while we work our way through Riverdale on Netflix (as I said in another thread, it's absolute, soap opera, campy trash and we love it for it).

We're thinking, once we finish Riverdale, of doing a comedy and a drama. Possibly Brooklyn Nine-Nine and The Americans, although there was another show she brought up the other day we could watch but it's escaping me right now.

Sharp Objects on HBO has been absolutely incredible so far, and I can't wait for Last Week Tonight to return from hiatus (although she says the show just stresses her out these days which...yeah).


Oh, and we have season 3 of Preacher on the DVR, but it's been pretty disappointing it's first two seasons, so we're waiting to have all the episodes and then we'll binge it. The first two seasons would have worked a lot better in a binge format than a weekly format.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on July 18, 2018, 07:53:44 PM
Americans is good. Thinking of getting into Sharp Objects too.
I opted for a little TV standard fare right now and am trying out Justified.
Homeland is one I need to catch up on, but I can't recall where they are now season wise.
Not much else going on now, IM kinda in limbo since finishing Six Feet Under
Killing Eve is one that was recommended to me so maybe Ill peek at that one too
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Bucfever on July 18, 2018, 08:08:05 PM
I liked Killing Eve, although I thought it was a bit over hyped. There's a few plot holes, but as long as you can overlook that it's good. The acting is definitely good. Sandra Oh is fantastic.

I always forget about Justified. That's one I need to watch, although I imagine I may have to convince the fiance, but she likes Timothy Olyphant thanks to Santa Clarita Diet so maybe I can use that as a pitch, haha.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on July 18, 2018, 10:15:22 PM
I think Ill give it a go.
Justified is fun thus far because of Timothy Olyphant. I think he's a good actor and I thought he was tremendous in Deadwood.
Otherwise its pretty much standard TV fare, but IM only two episodes in, so...
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: thaima1shu on July 20, 2018, 12:19:06 PM
Been watching The Crown. Never would've thought this would interest me but am 1/3 of the way through season 2 after beginning the show last week.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Bucfever on July 20, 2018, 12:22:45 PM
Been watching The Crown. Never would've thought this would interest me but am 1/3 of the way through season 2 after beginning the show last week.

I keep hearing how good that show is. It's probably one my fiance has been watching without me, but if not, I may need to make that our next show.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: thaima1shu on July 20, 2018, 01:35:54 PM
Yup, wife started watching it and I happened to be around and started watching during the middle of episode 3 or 4 of season 1. Been hooked since.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: rollntider on July 24, 2018, 07:58:25 PM
Watching Last Chance U season 3. Nice change of pace from the first 2 seasons.  But I have played on 2 highschool teams, we were more organized than those jokers were. No where near as talented LOL.  But I can promise that Malik Henry would not play for a real coach with that mouth.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on July 25, 2018, 04:23:23 PM
Been watching The Crown. Never would've thought this would interest me but am 1/3 of the way through season 2 after beginning the show last week.

Same her except Im were you were. I cannot imagine myself being the least bit interested in this subject. But jump in you say?
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: thaima1shu on July 25, 2018, 05:02:21 PM
I'd give the first episode a shot if you're at all interested in period pieces or history. In hindsight, I probably should've seen it coming that I'd enjoy it because I do tend to like movies/shows based on interesting points in history. It's well written and has an excellent cast with great performances.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on July 25, 2018, 05:54:09 PM
maybe I will ...
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on July 29, 2018, 07:03:26 PM
It might be me, but this cold open still cracks me up. What a terrific show Cheers was...

Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on July 31, 2018, 01:17:02 PM
The Americans

I love Cold War projects and this endeavor was quite reasonable and although amped up a bit, certainly believable.
It seems a little forced when FBI agent Stan Beeman just happens to move in next door to the Russian spies (well played by Noah Emmerich btw)
but once you accept that, it all works to push the story.

Philip (Matthew Rhys) and Elizabeth Jennings (Keri Russell) are seemingly normal Americans with a small travel agency and two kids and thats just what they want you to think. At first, it took me a bit to warm up to Matthew Rhys but he seemed to find his groove with the character and with enough charisma to make me believe him. Keri on the other hand was full tilt from the word go, for me at least.

In this newer era of TV, characters and their stories attempt to have more layers to them and The Americans is no exception.
The Cold War is the perfect vehicle to explore such vast makeups of the players and not to mention the tension of the times.
The show runners do a pretty decent job of maintaining the look of the era which really adds the show, and it also, at least for me, reminds how much easier it was to get away with most anything back then.

This show runs six seasons which I fell is a good amount of time, not too much, not too little in order to tell a great story.
I just finished the series finale and let me add...
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that while I really hate to use terminology like best ever etc, The Americans had a finale that was simply stellar my mind.
The arcs throughout the series are addressed and thats just about all I can say. Please don't go in expecting to be blown away because I don't think you will be, however, what you will witness is a terrific story and consequences that are well thought out and executed.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: rollntider on August 20, 2018, 08:19:09 PM
After watching 3 seasons of last chance u, all I enjoyed each in their own way.
Started watching training days Rolling with the tide. Or First chance U LOLOf course i will be biased but looking forward to this.
Episode 1 here

if you are wondering who will be the QB at Bama, it will be Tua,  I love Jalen, but he isnt a passer. He cannot hit the sideline
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on August 21, 2018, 12:13:07 PM
So for my easy fun watch I just blew though The Good Place. Ted Danson was fantastic, Kristen Bell, meh, coulda found someone better I think.
Plowing through Justified and while I like it and especially Timothy Olyphant, its deep in spots but still too much typical tv standard writing.

Looking for another series, lest I dive back in to the Sopranos or Deadwood since I finished the Wire again not long ago.

Considering the Crown, but what else is out there thats worth a damn?
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Bucfever on August 21, 2018, 12:33:58 PM
If you like campy, quirky fun, kind of like The Good Place, I can't recommend Netflix's Santa Clarita Diet enough. Olyphant and Drew Barrymore are both great and the kid from the new Vacation movie is actually hilarious. Fiance and I loved it, can't wait for season three.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on August 21, 2018, 01:02:19 PM
If you like campy, quirky fun, kind of like The Good Place, I can't recommend Netflix's Santa Clarita Diet enough. Olyphant and Drew Barrymore are both great and the kid from the new Vacation movie is actually hilarious. Fiance and I loved it, can't wait for season three.

Might just have to give it a go...
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Rigg44 on August 22, 2018, 05:19:37 PM
If you like campy, quirky fun, kind of like The Good Place, I can't recommend Netflix's Santa Clarita Diet enough. Olyphant and Drew Barrymore are both great and the kid from the new Vacation movie is actually hilarious. Fiance and I loved it, can't wait for season three.

I enjoyed season one a lot and season two slightly less but overall it is very good for all the reason you mention.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Bucfever on August 27, 2018, 10:43:15 AM
Did anyone watch Sharp Objects on HBO? Limited series, only one season, based on the book and adapted for the channel by Gillian Flynn, starring Amy Adams? Because it was insanely good.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: TheNorm on August 31, 2018, 09:59:03 AM
Did anyone watch Sharp Objects on HBO? Limited series, only one season, based on the book and adapted for the channel by Gillian Flynn, starring Amy Adams? Because it was insanely good.

It's on my watchlist.

Watched the first episode of Amazon's Jack Ryan series last night, been looking forward to it since it was announced. Decent pace and well written, really looking forward to seeing the rest of the series. Always enjoyed this character from the Clancy books, and I'm hoping this is a good reboot. The character deserves it.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on September 06, 2018, 01:00:00 PM
Justified
Seasons 1-6
Timothy Olyphant Walton Goggins


Justified tells a good story with a couple of main characters that firmly grab you and raise your interest in their arcs. Some others, not so much.
Olyphant plays Ralyan Givens who we meet straight away and are immediately introduced to the gray area he lives in as a Deputy US Marshall.
After the opening act our hero is transferred from Miami back home to Kentucky where he has a series long battle with local frenemy Boyd Crowder, played expertly by Walton Goggins of The Shield.

His former love interest, Ava Crowder, annoyingly portrayed by Joelle Carter, has a constant presence used primarily as an irritant or plot device revolving around Givens in one respect or another. She does, however, have substance as a character but it was primarily the way she was written that upset my waters.
Nick Searcy is the Chief and had brought Raylan in primarily to sack Boyd Crowder but as you can imagine he soon regrets his decision as Givens tends to go the Gary Cooper route more often than not. He does add to the cowboy tint that Justified unapologetically revives. He and Givens are flanked by two other deputies, Erica Tazel and Jacob Pitts. Both do god job in supporting roles although Tazel does seem a shade out of her element when
Spoiler: show
she is promoted to interim chief.
but that doesn't diminish any real value of the series.
The backdrop for Justified is the dying coal mining industry and a county that depended on that element to survive. Within that scope, we are subjected to rednecks galore, meaning moonshine, weed and anything else you would guess a poor rural community would engage in in order to not only pass the time but to make a buck as well.
I seriously doubt the US Marshalls would have such a presence in everyday law enforcement activities, we are asked to go along with it, which we do and it is a fun, interesting ride.
The story is deep and compelling, told with a tinge of reality and an abundance of tv tropes.
What bothers me most is that everyone
Spoiler: show
 is shot and everyone recovers so remarkably well, and quickly, and heres the bigger issue; it wasn't even required in some instances in order to tell the story.
Thats entertainment and I get it, but it really gets old.
Characters acting out of their realm because more drama is needed, i.e.
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Winona Hawkins, aka Natalie Zea, taking $100 from evidence who takes it to a bank to see if it was real...first off, wt actual f of a reason is that? Her character, a court reporter, would certainly know this already plus be well aware of the risks. Secondly of course she and the bank were then robbed giving us our secondary arc for the season.

I find Im in the minority on these complaints but even so, it doesn't detract from the enjoyment. This was a perfect vehicle for Olyphant to become a more visible and bankable star. I see it is a rather highy regarded series by many and I applaud and ride along with that recommendation, just dont expect The Wire, Sopranos or Deadwood.

4/5
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: rollntider on September 14, 2018, 08:09:09 PM
I like Ozark, season 1 was pretty good, and season 2 is even better so far
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on September 20, 2018, 12:20:23 PM
so buc, yea, just blew through Sharp Objects and was thoroughly engrossed.
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Im still not sure about Alan and although it was obvious to me Adora nor John killed Natalie and Ann, I wasn't ready for it to be Amma. I was so tuned in to Alan and Johns gf, I didnt see that coming at all. Funny thing is, now that I know, its so obvious.
However, we never discovered about the blood found in Natalie's home suggesting her brother was the killer, or I missed it if we did.
Was that where she was killed? I couldn't tell from the quick scenes in the credits.
Finally, two times in this series, the director used Led Zeppelin's In the evening but just the start of the song where Plant sings, "In the evening..." but cuts before the music starts. The fact he used it again in the final scene and let it play was amazing.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Bucfever on September 20, 2018, 12:58:39 PM
Here's my thoughts Crewe:

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I'd been thinking it was Amma and her friends ever since the scene in the convience store (which I think the finale flashed back to) where the girls said that the popular girls aren't being murdered. I think the show wanted you to believe they were just ambivalent teenagers, but perhaps due to watching too many of these or because of Amma's swings (like when she confronted her sister with the detective and stuck that gum in her hair, which is freaking disgusting and cruel). So I wasn't caught off guard, surprised by how it got there though.

As for the blood, in that brief clip at the end which shows each killing, she can clearly be seen killing that girl under the bed. Now, why no one knew they were together, how she kept from leaving any fingerprints or anything (or maybe, since they were friends, her fingerprints being there didn't come into question), I dunno, but yeah, they do show it. The other girl was the one getting held down by the two friends while Amma was doing her thing. 
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on September 20, 2018, 02:09:30 PM
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I was thinking thats where it happened because that was an obvious plothole if not. I didnt examine the credit scene but I probably should.
I dont recall the specifities in the convenience store scene you're referring to, but I obviously didnt lend it much weight. I am generally on top of these types of shows and am miffed I got swerved lol
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on September 20, 2018, 02:16:50 PM
Jack Ryan

Blew through this one right before Sharp Objects.

I really like John Krasinski and I can get behind him as Jack Ryan, most of the time, but, sometimes, all I see is Jim.
However,
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I kinda like the fact that he's not a super bad ass just yet and they really had to temper the "Im just an analyst" personality because it could have been too much. I thought Wendell Pierce (Bunk from The Wire) was a great addition but I hope he's not a one season character.
They did invest a little time in to telling his story so maybe he will be back.


I wasn't overwhelmed but I am interested to see the net installment.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: TheNorm on September 20, 2018, 04:57:01 PM
Jack Ryan

Blew through this one right before Sharp Objects.

I really like John Krasinski and I can get behind him as Jack Ryan, most of the time, but, sometimes, all I see is Jim.
However,
Spoiler: show
I kinda like the fact that he's not a super bad ass just yet and they really had to temper the "Im just an analyst" personality because it could have been too much. I thought Wendell Pierce (Bunk from The Wire) was a great addition but I hope he's not a one season character.
They did invest a little time in to telling his story so maybe he will be back.


I wasn't overwhelmed but I am interested to see the net installment.

I think I've got about 4 episodes left of this one and really want to finish it off, but got sidetracked by Spider-Man and football season lol.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on September 21, 2018, 12:49:31 AM
Jack Ryan

Blew through this one right before Sharp Objects.

I really like John Krasinski and I can get behind him as Jack Ryan, most of the time, but, sometimes, all I see is Jim.
However,
Spoiler: show
I kinda like the fact that he's not a super bad ass just yet and they really had to temper the "Im just an analyst" personality because it could have been too much. I thought Wendell Pierce (Bunk from The Wire) was a great addition but I hope he's not a one season character.
They did invest a little time in to telling his story so maybe he will be back.


I wasn't overwhelmed but I am interested to see the net installment.

I think I've got about 4 episodes left of this one and really want to finish it off, but got sidetracked by Spider-Man and football season lol.

So yea, priorities lol
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: TheNorm on October 23, 2018, 12:38:23 PM
Jack Ryan

Blew through this one right before Sharp Objects.

I really like John Krasinski and I can get behind him as Jack Ryan, most of the time, but, sometimes, all I see is Jim.
However,
Spoiler: show
I kinda like the fact that he's not a super bad ass just yet and they really had to temper the "Im just an analyst" personality because it could have been too much. I thought Wendell Pierce (Bunk from The Wire) was a great addition but I hope he's not a one season character.
They did invest a little time in to telling his story so maybe he will be back.


I wasn't overwhelmed but I am interested to see the net installment.

Finally wrapped this up...thought it was enjoyable enough and paced pretty well, and the story arc was interesting for a lot of characters.

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Agreed with Wendell Pierce as Jim Greer, he was awesome. And the fact that he was made Station Chief in Moscow really has me hoping they may tackle the events of the "Cardinal of the Kremlin" novel a bit in Season Two. Always felt that was one of Clancy's best books in the Ryan series.

The drone pilot's story was meh...I get what they were trying to do with it in regards to the human cost and what not, but feels like it went nowhere. Also thought his little encounter with the dude at the casino and his wife might play into something more, but nothing.


Anyone check out the new Doctor Who yet? Really enjoying Jodie Whittaker so far.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on October 23, 2018, 12:45:21 PM
Im pretty much on par with you there norm
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Bucfever on October 23, 2018, 01:05:41 PM
Anyone check out the new Doctor Who yet? Really enjoying Jodie Whittaker so far.

Fiance and I have been watching it. I'm not a huge Who fan, I don't get into a lot of that BBC stuff, but I've seen some Matt Smith episodes and a lot of Capaldi, and even I can already tell the writing this season has been extraordinarily sharp. And yes, Whittaker is great as the Doctor.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on November 04, 2018, 01:32:25 AM
Just watched making a murderer s2.
For me, it's really compelling to see the legal system at work in this process and to hear arguments from both sides.
I've listened to lawyers dissect a seven word sentence in a civil procedure rule book that seemed black and white to me, but that's interesting and educational, if not frustrating at times.
As for this show, 10 eps same as the first season.
This follows Avery's attorney as she attempts to dismantle the states case and takes the viewer through multiple court hearings and motions. It's a fascinating peek into a stressful, demanding, time consuming process. I don't really give a shit about the family stuff, some of its pertinent but most of its filler depicting the hardships of the Avery family which we were subjected to in S1.

And not for nothing, but I'm curious, does anyone believe that Dassey confession was not coerced?
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on November 07, 2018, 06:29:52 PM
House of Cards S6

Im a fan of Robin Wright, and she was wonderful in the final season of HoC sans Frank Underwood.
However, the show had ben sloping downward and it jumped off the cliff in its last hurrah.
They strip stories from today's world which is certainly welcomed, and performances by the ageless Diane Lane plus Greg Kinnear add needed depth to the story, but recurring flat characters and a narrative that is just too far outside reality, even for this day and age, is just too much.
Robin Wright did what she could and I really enjoyed her performance, but its not enough.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on November 12, 2018, 01:15:07 PM
Designated Survivor S1
Kiefer Sutherland
Maggie Q

I was browsing Netflix and happened upon this series which I really had no intention of watching, but decided to give it a go.

Sutherland plays Tom Kirkman, a low end Presidential cabinet member presiding over Urban Housing. We learn he was Designated Survivor during the Presidents State of the Union and you can guess what happens since he becomes sworn in as Commander in Chief soon after we meet his character.
Kirkman is a mild mannered, soft spoken, meek but even keeled thinker who's not a Washington insider by trade, nor does he ever have such aspirations.
His Chief of Staff, Aaron Shore (Adaon Canto) is more assertive and protects his new boss with as much vigor as you can imagine he did for his previous one. He clashes early on with Emily Rhodes (Italia Ricci) who was Tom's right hand as Urban Secretary who feels as Kirkman's current staffer she should be in the right hand seat. Unlike Canto, I can't decide if Ricci is way over her head or poorly written or a combination of both, either way she's not believable in this story.
The ever smoking hot Maggie Q is Jack Bauer....I mean FBI agent Hannah Wells who is investigating the attack. Incidentally, not that I mind, but Maggie is always decked out in these supremely tight T-shirts and tops with two or three buttons unclasped and its rather obvious the intent. Or maybe she just looks tight in anything, but I digress.
President Kirkman has a Josiah Bartlett aura about him and I don't think that is unintentional here as Designated Survivor seems to blend several genres in to this project.
Soon after his inauguration, while heaving up in the restroom, he hears speechwriter Seth Wright demeaning his President, and Wright was not aware who he was talking to until he exits the stall. It's here we are introduced to the accepting Tom Kirkman who invites Wright (played expertly by Kal Penn)
to help him through this by writing a speech addressing the nation. He further nails his role as Press Secretary, a serious highlight on this show.
He and Rob Morrow produce some of the best albeit brief comedy scenes which are portrayed naturally and not forced in such a situation.

I watched this show because it was fairly high rated, but I had my reservations as it was a network tv program.
This is largely 24, hence my reference earlier to Agent Wells. It's by no means, blow everything up and kill everyone kind of 24, but you can't deny the feel. hell, even the outro music to commercials is the same as 24's was, only truncated by a mere second or two. many times I was hearing the beep boop beep boop beep
Speaking of 24, say hi to Brian Hastings, Jason Pillar and President Keeler.
We have small arcs that are tightly wrapped up ala an episodic series and never referred to again.
Ill spoiler this one
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the first son is busted by mom in the White House with a huge stash of ecstasy and a wad of cash. She confronts him, he doesn't know why he did it, she lets it go and its never brought up again. I guess thy just needed a dramatic scene?

The most absurd part of this show is the timid socially awkward but unheralded mastermind IT hacker that assists Agent Wells at every road block by pounding away at his keyboard for a few seconds and then viola. Just way beyond the realm of believability.
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Baddie's just walk in to the Pentagon, access the most secure network in the world and walk right out, I mean, not even in a cartoon universe would this fly.

Oh yea, and people get shot and recover instantly, never again showing signs of said wound (ok except one, but still a remarkable recovery)
T bone a car in a massive crash, get of your vehicle instantly and the bad guy is gone already. yea ok. You get where I'm going with all these examples right?

All of that said, it is an interesting walk through as a non Washington insider is vaulted to the Presidency and has to figure out how to re assemble a government from the ground up. We get glimpses in to how the news affects everything as well politics certainly, even in times like this.
Everything is pulled from today and you can grasp what that entails Im sure.
Is it worth a watch? It is if you like tv fare and there are certainly some great actors such as those Ive listed and some Ive left out include Natasha McElhone of Californication who plays the First Lady, Virginia Madsen as reigning Speaker of the House and Malik Yoba who plays Wells' boss Jason Atwood.
This is not a deep thinking show nor is it overly entertaining but there are some bright spots and some decent overall storytelling, but by and large, if I read this review first, I wouldn't watch it, to be sure.

3/5
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: TheNorm on November 27, 2018, 08:23:48 AM
So for my easy fun watch I just blew though The Good Place. Ted Danson was fantastic, Kristen Bell, meh, coulda found someone better I think.

Finally started watching this on Sunday, and finished the first season in a day-absolutely loved it! If I'd have known it was from the same guys that created Parks & Rec and Brooklyn Nine-Nine, I would've started it sooner. Love Kristen Bell though, she's perfect for this.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on November 27, 2018, 11:11:49 AM
Is S2 out yet?
I don't mind Bell so much but it just feels like her wackiness is too forced at times but that's just me.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Bucfever on November 27, 2018, 11:32:14 AM
Season 2 has been out. Season 3 is currently airing.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Rigg44 on November 27, 2018, 11:43:20 AM
Just watched making a murderer s2.
For me, it's really compelling to see the legal system at work in this process and to hear arguments from both sides.
I've listened to lawyers dissect a seven word sentence in a civil procedure rule book that seemed black and white to me, but that's interesting and educational, if not frustrating at times.
As for this show, 10 eps same as the first season.
This follows Avery's attorney as she attempts to dismantle the states case and takes the viewer through multiple court hearings and motions. It's a fascinating peek into a stressful, demanding, time consuming process. I don't really give a shit about the family stuff, some of its pertinent but most of its filler depicting the hardships of the Avery family which we were subjected to in S1.

And not for nothing, but I'm curious, does anyone believe that Dassey confession was not coerced?

My biggest problem with what occurred in season one was the lawyers not making a big enough deal about the lack of blood.  They supposedly cut a woman's throat in the bed room.  Where was the blood? The room would have been soaked in it, and there was not one drop?  Have not watched season 2 yet hope its worth the time to view.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on November 27, 2018, 01:34:21 PM
Just watched making a murderer s2.
For me, it's really compelling to see the legal system at work in this process and to hear arguments from both sides.
I've listened to lawyers dissect a seven word sentence in a civil procedure rule book that seemed black and white to me, but that's interesting and educational, if not frustrating at times.
As for this show, 10 eps same as the first season.
This follows Avery's attorney as she attempts to dismantle the states case and takes the viewer through multiple court hearings and motions. It's a fascinating peek into a stressful, demanding, time consuming process. I don't really give a shit about the family stuff, some of its pertinent but most of its filler depicting the hardships of the Avery family which we were subjected to in S1.

And not for nothing, but I'm curious, does anyone believe that Dassey confession was not coerced?

My biggest problem with what occurred in season one was the lawyers not making a big enough deal about the lack of blood.  They supposedly cut a woman's throat in the bed room.  Where was the blood? The room would have been soaked in it, and there was not one drop?  Have not watched season 2 yet hope its worth the time to view.

After S1 aired, I expressed that very thought. Its amazing to me how that wasn't even brought up, much less glossed over.
Especially when they show you the bed lol Only way someone died in that bed was by disease
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: TheNorm on November 27, 2018, 10:41:38 PM
Season 2 has been out. Season 3 is currently airing.

This right here. I want to start it but I'm afraid I'll lose a day watching that like I did the first season lol
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on December 03, 2018, 04:35:11 PM
Bosch
Titus Welliver
Jamie Hector


Adapted from the novels of Michael Connolly, Bosch is the story of a stoic, hardened, war veteran who is a homicide detective in LA.
While I would call this show realistic, I would hesitate to say its a gritty crime drama. To me, that's The Wire, The Shield, etc, however, there is a place for Bosch.
Its not really a polished show in that its a glossy paint by numbers cop show, but more of a well crafted program with long running arcs that avoids the dreaded "finales," mid season or otherwise.
First off, you have a deep character already established in Harry Bosch. Secondly, you have a stellar cast albeit perhaps unheralded. Sarah Clarke (24) plays his ex, and another 24 alumni is Annie Wersching who plays a rookie cop.
Jamie Hector and Lance Reddick of The Wire play cops as well. Hector, in a far cry from his Wire role, does a superb job as Harry's partner and REddick, more in line with his Wire character, plays the Deputy Chief.

Bosch is a so called rogue cop who won't let go of a case until he solves it despite instructions otherwise or seemingly dead ends in every direction.
One to typically follow the evidence, he isn't above putting a target in his crosshairs but will also play a case close to the vest which doesn't often sit well with his peers or superiors.
Hector plays J Edgar who offers balance to the duo and brings a soft but stern chemistry which is a welcome mix to the show. A sometimes tenuous relationship still achieves results that their peers respect, if not via the methods.
There are one or two really over the top antagonistic moments designed to give the viewer an insight to Bosch, but certainly could have been played better. Despite that, and a few other minor flaws, this series provides a well thought out, evenly planned main arc with compelling characters, not all of whom shine, but the main cast permeates the minors enough to carry the few shortfalls.
I blew through all 4 seasons, each containing 10 episodes quite easily as it is an addicting watch. Slow moving parts with no quick fixes and no abandoned storylines equals a series certainly worth watching.

4.25/5
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on December 28, 2018, 08:53:52 PM
So, I was down with food poisoning for about 5-6 days and powered through some of my list, one of which was The Walking Dead S8.
So, right up front, Ill tell you that TWD long ago went the way of True Blood which is not a good thing.
The overall arcs can be compelling and some stellar character developments are certainly achieved, but the manner in which these stories are related to the viewer are just atrocious. Ive kept up with it just out of sheer morbid curiosity and the fact I was emotionally vested before shit went downhill.
Ive pointed out similar stories in previous reviews, but its just so damned silly, there's no way I can be the only one.
General spoilers follow:
Scene:A group ambushes a caravan on the road. Combatants in the cars empty out and take cover behind said vehicles. Nearing the end of the melee, one of the survivors makes a break from cover and runs in the direction of the ambushers. You knew the intent was that the character escaped and you knew that's what happened, but the evasive jaunt was obviously supposed to be to the other side.
There are just countless scenes of this kind of shit.
Three soldiers standing side by side a few feet apart, facing one enemy combatant in the street 3-5 feet away in an empty street. Not around a corner, not behind a dumpster, face to face in an empty street, negotiating. When one of the three approaches and decides to kill the enemy, at that very dramatic moment, a spear gouges through the guys neck from behind an as he falls, there's this guy from behind who nobody in the world saw or heard. They are all absolutely shocked and stunned. Its just absolutely astonishing that they get away with shit like this.
Well, I know why they get away with it, because people like me watch it.
But on and on and on and its just absolutely terrible. I just keep wishing for this series to end but apparently it has seven or so more seasons of this shit.
In-sane.

Anywho, on to thoughts of the actual story...

Spoiler: show

So Negan is the leader of the Saviors and Glenn was fed to him at the beginning of S7 to fuel the Maggie character who now leads Hilltop.
Rick, et al, try the long game of planning an extravagant in depth plan to unseat and kill Negan. In the meantime, there's a lot of back and forth with a couple of characters that may or may not be turncoats which adds to the drama.
Darryl engages in selfish behavior along with the laughable barbie doll turned hardened "soldier" whatever her name is (most of these girls are so bad at acting in these roles) to try and end Negan early, which backfires, of course. Then Rick himself aborts his plan risking it all in order to try to cut the head off early, and he too of course, fails.
Then on to the showdown where we knew D was compromised in his double agent endeavor and Negan had Rick trapped in an open field with the high ground.
But alas, at the height of this most tenuous moment, we discover Eugene the bullet maker had truly been converted by St. Gabriel to vow his allegiance to Rick by sabotaging the ammo so it would blow up in the hands of the Saviors. Now how in the hell Negan, et al, wouldn't notice the bullets deformities is beyond anything one could even dream up. Especially when the paint by numbers director showed you first hand what the ammo looked like when altered during Eugene's crisis of conscience.
Then, Rick yells charge and they take out Negan, but Rick leaves him alive in order to imprison him at Hilltop forcing him to witness what harmony and hard work can build, much to Maggie's chagrin as she wants him dead in order to avenge her husband Glenn.
And as the season ends, we are focused in on the antagonist for S9 since Negan isn't a threat anymore. Maggie and Darryl now plan to overthrow Rick for leaving Negan alive.
Oh yea, how can I forget the "key?." this one woman, impeccably dressed with two young, soft pasty white louts acting as security, riding around in a van, chock full of supplies, but somehow never gets attacked or hurt. One who is magically "watching" groups trying to build small communities decides who she thinks will act accordingly when given the key to society, such as instructions on irrigation, electricity, food, you know, all the things we need to live.
I don't know, maybe I was just in a rotten mood, but its just astonishingly laughable to me, it really is.
That said, Ill watch S9 when it airs too, so maybe Im the moron.



If you watched S7 and liked it, you might as well watch S8 too. It at least has some real growth and expansion so there's that.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on December 31, 2018, 09:42:47 PM
Better Call Saul S4

I really like the backstory they've created for Jimmy McGill.
When I first heard of this project, I wasnt interested despite th fact I loved Saul Goodman in Breaking Bad.
However, Once I started, it was hard not to be captivated by Bob Odenkirk and his struggles with his brilliant albeit disturbed brother, Chuck.
We continue our exploration of how and why Jimmy wanted to be a lawyer and yes, he's a con artist and a thief, but he's also a salesman, and a good one.
Jimmy understands his clients and he understands the law and as a lover of the protections of the constitution, he usually abides by it.
I believe I read there will be six seasons so on one hand, it kinda feels like they are really close to the beginning of Breaking Bad, but on the other, a season could cover a very short time span so lets see what shakes loose. In the meantime, its certainly worth a look.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Bucfever on December 31, 2018, 11:44:55 PM
They've said it won't have more seasons than Breaking Bad. I have a feeling it'll end with Walt and Jesse showing up, but who knows.

Also, amazing show, so great. I thought the same as you, why so I need a prequel about freaking Saul, and yet it's been amazing (minus some of the Cartel stuff. Nacho disappeared for episodes at a time last year and Gus works better in small doses, which is not how the show uses him).

I was worried about season 4 for....season 3 reasons. That character and that actor were AMAZING for the first 3 seasons and I wasn't sure if season 4 would hold up without them, but it did. Utilizing some amazing flashbacks too.

Oh, and season 4, that other character, and that phone call in the finale. Holy, crap. My jaw was hanging open.
Title: Re: The TV thread
Post by: Crewe on January 11, 2019, 02:41:51 AM
They've said it won't have more seasons than Breaking Bad. I have a feeling it'll end with Walt and Jesse showing up, but who knows.

Also, amazing show, so great. I thought the same as you, why so I need a prequel about freaking Saul, and yet it's been amazing (minus some of the Cartel stuff. Nacho disappeared for episodes at a time last year and Gus works better in small doses, which is not how the show uses him).

I was worried about season 4 for....season 3 reasons. That character and that actor were AMAZING for the first 3 seasons and I wasn't sure if season 4 would hold up without them, but it did. Utilizing some amazing flashbacks too.

Oh, and season 4, that other character, and that phone call in the finale. Holy, crap. My jaw was hanging open.

Agree with all of this