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Offline Rigg44

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Re: Your Unpopular Opinion
« Reply #90 on: July 10, 2018, 04:01:35 PM »
In keeping with my movie theme here is another unpopular opinion.  I like the new Star Wars movies.  They are not as good as the originals, but part of that is my viewing the older films through the lens of nostalgia.  The newer films are far better than episodes 1 and 2. I like Rey and Kilo.  I think that the killing off of the original cast was a necessary evil so the franchise can move on.  The only thing I don't like to this point is the lack of connection to the Skywalker family.  I hope that in the end Rey is somehow connected.       

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« Reply #91 on: July 10, 2018, 04:06:52 PM »
I love the novel and the movie, but being raised by an Italian father from NY, all those monster films were beyond reproach in my home.

That being said, while I disagree with Rigg, I respect his opinion, although I am disappointed for him that he didn't enjoy the movie on the same level as I do, because it is one of my favorite films.

I don't hate it just don't find it to be a masterpiece the way others do.  For Mobster movies I would rather watch Casino or good-fellas. Just my 2 cents but hey life goes on.   

Casino and Goodfellas definitely move a lot faster, for whatever their lengths are. Godfather is definitely a time sink.

Here's an unpopular opinion: I believe Casino is BETTER than Goodfellas.

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« Reply #92 on: July 10, 2018, 04:40:40 PM »
For me its a toss up between Casio and Good fellas

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Re: Your Unpopular Opinion
« Reply #93 on: July 10, 2018, 06:05:33 PM »
In keeping with my movie theme here is another unpopular opinion.  I like the new Star Wars movies.  They are not as good as the originals, but part of that is my viewing the older films through the lens of nostalgia.  The newer films are far better than episodes 1 and 2. I like Rey and Kilo.  I think that the killing off of the original cast was a necessary evil so the franchise can move on.  The only thing I don't like to this point is the lack of connection to the Skywalker family.  I hope that in the end Rey is somehow connected.     

For me, part of the reason why I'm really enjoying the new movies is Rey's lack of connection to the Skywalker family. I like that she's a 'nobody'.

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Re: Your Unpopular Opinion
« Reply #94 on: July 11, 2018, 11:23:35 AM »
In keeping with my movie theme here is another unpopular opinion.  I like the new Star Wars movies.  They are not as good as the originals, but part of that is my viewing the older films through the lens of nostalgia.  The newer films are far better than episodes 1 and 2. I like Rey and Kilo.  I think that the killing off of the original cast was a necessary evil so the franchise can move on.  The only thing I don't like to this point is the lack of connection to the Skywalker family.  I hope that in the end Rey is somehow connected.     

This is unpopular?

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« Reply #95 on: July 11, 2018, 11:27:06 AM »
I love the novel and the movie, but being raised by an Italian father from NY, all those monster films were beyond reproach in my home.

That being said, while I disagree with Rigg, I respect his opinion, although I am disappointed for him that he didn't enjoy the movie on the same level as I do, because it is one of my favorite films.

I don't hate it just don't find it to be a masterpiece the way others do.  For Mobster movies I would rather watch Casino or good-fellas. Just my 2 cents but hey life goes on.   

Casino and Goodfellas definitely move a lot faster, for whatever their lengths are. Godfather is definitely a time sink.

Here's an unpopular opinion: I believe Casino is BETTER than Goodfellas.

I don't agree and won't get into my reasons, but I don't consider it outlandish to have that opinion. Both are great films. Both are based on true stories.
I tend to think Goodfellas didn't need as much dramatic license and was a deeper story as it relates to the mob, but still liked them both.

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« Reply #96 on: July 11, 2018, 11:51:42 AM »
In keeping with my movie theme here is another unpopular opinion.  I like the new Star Wars movies.  They are not as good as the originals, but part of that is my viewing the older films through the lens of nostalgia.  The newer films are far better than episodes 1 and 2. I like Rey and Kilo.  I think that the killing off of the original cast was a necessary evil so the franchise can move on.  The only thing I don't like to this point is the lack of connection to the Skywalker family.  I hope that in the end Rey is somehow connected.     

This is unpopular?

There's a large, very loud and vocal minority that you've probably read about, especially regarding the latest entry, The Last Jedi. But they are a minority.

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« Reply #97 on: July 11, 2018, 12:04:26 PM »
In keeping with my movie theme here is another unpopular opinion.  I like the new Star Wars movies.  They are not as good as the originals, but part of that is my viewing the older films through the lens of nostalgia.  The newer films are far better than episodes 1 and 2. I like Rey and Kilo.  I think that the killing off of the original cast was a necessary evil so the franchise can move on.  The only thing I don't like to this point is the lack of connection to the Skywalker family.  I hope that in the end Rey is somehow connected.     

This is unpopular?

There's a large, very loud and vocal minority that you've probably read about, especially regarding the latest entry, The Last Jedi. But they are a minority.

Heavy, heavy emphasis on loud. I do think there's a sizable chunk of the fan base that disliked it and I can kind of see where they're coming from on some points. But for the most part it just feels like whining because it wasn't exactly the direction they were expecting it to go.

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« Reply #98 on: July 11, 2018, 01:23:50 PM »
In keeping with my movie theme here is another unpopular opinion.  I like the new Star Wars movies.  They are not as good as the originals, but part of that is my viewing the older films through the lens of nostalgia.  The newer films are far better than episodes 1 and 2. I like Rey and Kilo.  I think that the killing off of the original cast was a necessary evil so the franchise can move on.  The only thing I don't like to this point is the lack of connection to the Skywalker family.  I hope that in the end Rey is somehow connected.     

This is unpopular?

There's a large, very loud and vocal minority that you've probably read about, especially regarding the latest entry, The Last Jedi. But they are a minority.

Heavy, heavy emphasis on loud. I do think there's a sizable chunk of the fan base that disliked it and I can kind of see where they're coming from on some points. But for the most part it just feels like whining because it wasn't exactly the direction they were expecting it to go.

They may be a minority but Disney is looking to possibly fire the project lead for future Star Wars movies based on VII and Solos critical receptions.  I dont agree and actually liked both films.  Solo to a lesser degree but I still enjoyed it.  There will never be another Harrison Ford, which is why they should have left that story untold but I did enjoy the film for what it was.

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« Reply #99 on: July 11, 2018, 01:31:32 PM »
Don't believe everything you read. The project lead is fine. Last Jedi got a great critical reception, it's, again, this extremely loud and vocal minority. I mean, these guys have harassed and abused Kelly Marie Tran and Daisey Ridley off social media, they're constantly vulgarly attacking Rian Johnson, the director, and have even gone after a Forbes reviewer I follow, Scott Mendelsohn, just because he doesn't hate the film.

Kathleen Kennedy will be fine. Last Jedi still made oodles of profit and even Solo did too. This idiot minority that has their "remake the Last Jedi" campaign are just Gamgergate idiots who've moved on to the next thing (before they move on to Comicsgate, apparently, ugh).

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Re: Your Unpopular Opinion
« Reply #100 on: July 11, 2018, 03:21:01 PM »
maybe this is an unpopular opinion but I really dont like the market saturation of Star Wars movies and to me, Solo was a prime example.

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« Reply #101 on: July 11, 2018, 04:11:37 PM »
maybe this is an unpopular opinion but I really dont like the market saturation of Star Wars movies and to me, Solo was a prime example.

To an extent I'm torn on this.

To a certain extent, I agree. We survived a long time with just 3 movies (and a holiday special). I know a lot of people got into the comics and the EU, but still. Cinematically, 3 movies.

So a new Star Wars movie every year, coupled with the TV shows (one of which played directly into a surprise Solo cameo) is really a lot of Star Wars.

The thing is, I don't necessarily mind that. Rogue One was really, really great as one of the first ones to move away from the Skywalker clan, even if it did take place in a familiar time-frame to the OT. And I loved Last Jedi and Force Awakens is a good introduction to the new trilogy.

I'd just like to see, if we're going to get more, just some expansion. Marvel does so well because each movie is a superhero movie, yet they all have a different style from each other (Guardians is Firefly-ish, Winter Soldier was a spy movie, Ant-Man movies are heist movies, etc). I could easily see something like that working in Star Wars and allowing better stories to be told.

Honestly, the worst part of Solo was Han! They introduced such cool ideas and new locations, and then did nothing new with them. I wanted to see more of Corellia, more of that mining colony, and I wanted to know more about these crime syndicates that have this unsteady truce between them and the smugglers they hire. I have half a feeling this will either tie into the arc in the Boba Fett movie (ugh), or it may be what Jon Favreau's TV show ends up being about. But that was my big disappointment with Solo. It was so committed to giving us what we expected (Han meets Chewie, Han meets Lando, Han wins the Falcon, etc) that it ignores all the really cool new ideas it presents.

There's so much story left to be told in that universe, I'd just like to see them do that. If it takes one movie a year, so be it, but as long as the stories support it then that's fine. I don't think New Episode, New OT character story, New Episode, New OT Character story is a viable way to do it.

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Re: Your Unpopular Opinion
« Reply #102 on: July 11, 2018, 05:08:17 PM »
Totally with you Buc on all of that. There's so much of the Star Wars universe to potentially explore but they keep sticking with the same core story. Quite a waste.

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Re: Your Unpopular Opinion
« Reply #103 on: July 12, 2018, 11:45:14 AM »
I love the star wars and agree with you guys they are killing it.




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Re: Your Unpopular Opinion
« Reply #104 on: July 12, 2018, 04:27:18 PM »
I think Buc hit the nail on the head there. As long as you're gonna give us amazing stuff and expand the universe, take my f'ing money. A Thrawn movie or tv series based off of the Timothy Zahn book (soon to be books) would be incredible to me.

As for TLJ, I like that Rey ISN'T connected to the Skywalker family and I hope they keep it that way. If a random from Jakku/'nowhere' can be Force-capable, then so can anyone else (which I think the film alluded to at the end with the kid).
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