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Started by TheNorm, October 09, 2017, 06:50:23 PM

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cflnut

Quote from: Bucfever on March 27, 2018, 11:28:16 AM
I've never seen Slapshot (I know, I know) but I was REALLY bored with Goon when I watched it.

I'm the opposite here. I've never seen Goon, but found Slapshot to be very boring.
If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense.
Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't.
And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would.

Crewe

Im not holding Slapshot as the holy grail, but with few hockey movies, its a good representation.
Id put Miracle at the top of the hockey films and while thats too easy, id second with Mystery Alaska.

TheNorm

Quote from: Crewe on March 28, 2018, 10:36:31 AM
Im not holding Slapshot as the holy grail, but with few hockey movies, its a good representation.
Id put Miracle at the top of the hockey films and while thats too easy, id second with Mystery Alaska.

Didn't mean to imply Goon was the best hockey movie...and also not saying Slap Shot is horrible either. It's good...but Goon was better. :)
As for top hockey films, your top two matches mine.
"But it is not enough for me to stand before you tonight and condemn riots. It would be morally irresponsible for me to do that without, at the same time, condemning the contingent, intolerable conditions that exist in our society. These conditions are the things that cause individuals to feel that they have no other alternative than to engage in violent rebellions to get attention. And I must say tonight that a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the negro poor has worsened over the last twelve or fifteen years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice and humanity." - Martin Luther King, Jr

Crewe

yea norm, I figured that and I was equally cautious of elevating Slapshot, and of course we agree on those lol

BojackHorsefella

I actively hate The Rocky Horror Picture Show. I watched it once, didn't "get it," I didn't enjoy the songs, the "story," if you could call it that, was absolute nonsense and even Tim Curry couldn't save it. I do not understand the praise it receives except for being "groundbreaking" for the whole drag queen/transvestite angle, and that's great and all, but the movie/musical was absolute garbage.

cflnut

Quote from: Wikipedia
The story centres on a young engaged couple whose car breaks down in the rain near a castle where they seek a telephone to call for help. The castle or country home is occupied by strangers in elaborate costumes celebrating an annual convention. They discover the head of the house is Dr. Frank N. Furter, an apparent mad scientist who actually is an alien transvestite who creates a living muscle man in his laboratory. The couple are seduced separately by the mad scientist and eventually released by the servants who take control.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rocky_Horror_Picture_Show

It is based on the stage play The Rocky Horror Show, written by the same guy as the film, and is a parody tribute to the science fiction and horror B movies of the 1930s through to the early 1970s.

The film dose actually fail to tell any type of coherent story, and is more know for it's music then anything else. It's also why I say it doesn't take itself seriously.

Unless your one of the "Super Fans" of this film, which I'm not, you either like or hate. There is no middle ground.

I like the film, mostly for the music, but for being one of those that tried to push the envelope in is approach to a very touchy subject, not only for today, but for the 1970s.

Also the Sci-Fi nerd in me really enjoys B movie science fiction from the '60s & '70s.  ;D

If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense.
Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't.
And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would.

Crewe

I completely get the hate, but you have to understand the reason behind its popularity. It was and to an extent, still is as far as I know, a fan participation film because of the absurdity of it all.
Even if you go, you still may not hit one of the theaters that has the best participation.
It's a weekly social event that was fun as hell. Its not a sit down and watch at home film. If you do that, you will never get it.


BojackHorsefella

Quote from: Crewe on April 03, 2018, 02:23:43 PM
I completely get the hate, but you have to understand the reason behind its popularity. It was and to an extent, still is as far as I know, a fan participation film because of the absurdity of it all.
Even if you go, you still may not hit one of the theaters that has the best participation.
It's a weekly social event that was fun as hell. Its not a sit down and watch at home film. If you do that, you will never get it.

That's exactly what I did the one and only time I watched it. The ex-wife and I (well, girlfriend at the time, you guys remember her!) watched it on DVD in like, the living room basically.

TheNorm

Yeah, that's one of those you need the participation aspect for. I didn't get it either until a group of us went out during high school. Fun stuff.
"But it is not enough for me to stand before you tonight and condemn riots. It would be morally irresponsible for me to do that without, at the same time, condemning the contingent, intolerable conditions that exist in our society. These conditions are the things that cause individuals to feel that they have no other alternative than to engage in violent rebellions to get attention. And I must say tonight that a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the negro poor has worsened over the last twelve or fifteen years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice and humanity." - Martin Luther King, Jr

BojackHorsefella

The formerly viral song "Call Me Maybe" by whoever that was by is, by all accounts, a terrible song. HOWEVER, there is one line that's been forever maligned that I actually think is a smart line.

"Before you came into my life I missed you so bad"

I think this is great. I think it really speaks to how, in life, you can be in a relationship with the wrong person, even if it's not necessarily a "bad" relationship, and still feel like you're missing something, or feel like while this may not be bad, it's not what you want in life. Granted, you certainly never want to fall into that "the grass is always greener" mindset, but once you find someone you're happy with and can really see a future together with, once you have that one puzzle solved, you can see how your life before would have been a little brighter with this life partner, presumably.

I don't know. I like the line. I don't think it's silly and people say "it doesn't make sense" took it FAR too literally, which is interesting because it's music.

Crewe

I have no idea about this song lol

Rigg44

If the idea is unpopular opinions then here is one of mine.  I do not get why the godfather is considered a great movie.  Its ok, perhaps average but great...ehhh.

Crewe

Quote from: Rigg44 on June 29, 2018, 03:14:40 PM
If the idea is unpopular opinions then here is one of mine.  I do not get why the godfather is considered a great movie.  Its ok, perhaps average but great...ehhh.

There is no perfect film that will appeal to everyone, we know that of course. However, we can go by the critics, the masses, the industry professionals and the like; none of which are rubber stamps of approval by themselves but altogether, I would count that as a solid opinion. Even still, not for everyone.
With that rambling preamble out of the way, I'll iterate what you've probably read from the sources above, but Godfather is supremely rich character driven film. Scenes have a real sense of beginning, middle and, just like it's taught in film school. The direction, cinematography, editing, acting, score...absolutely every aspect of production was lightning in a bottle.
The film was cinema. That's sort of lost over the decades what with easily accessible home media and popcorn blockbusters dominating the big screen.
That's not a slight to movies, just that cinema was a big deal, even through the 90's although dwindling.
Then there's the mafia aspect of it. Around this time, the FBI was still in denial about the mob, the RICO statutes weren't being applied in what little widespread investigating there was so it was the elephant in the room that no one was to talk about and here it was on the big screen. Btw, there's interesting reading on the actual mobs connection to and in the film.

The Godfather was textbook storytelling, character development without narration combined with wonderful execution in every other area of production.
This all of course, is just my opinion 😎

BojackHorsefella

 I love the novel and the movie, but being raised by an Italian father from NY, all those monster films were beyond reproach in my home.

That being said, while I disagree with Rigg, I respect his opinion, although I am disappointed for him that he didn't enjoy the movie on the same level as I do, because it is one of my favorite films.

Rigg44

Quote from: Bucfever on June 30, 2018, 01:32:24 AM
I love the novel and the movie, but being raised by an Italian father from NY, all those monster films were beyond reproach in my home.

That being said, while I disagree with Rigg, I respect his opinion, although I am disappointed for him that he didn't enjoy the movie on the same level as I do, because it is one of my favorite films.

I don't hate it just don't find it to be a masterpiece the way others do.  For Mobster movies I would rather watch Casino or good-fellas. Just my 2 cents but hey life goes on.