Not sure if this is valid for the US, but assuming so?
http://gizmodo.com/all-windows-10-upgrades-will-be-free-even-if-your-copy-1692096375?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
Yeah, it's because there's a few caveats in Windows 10 that people are saying "hell no" to. There's phone home software, all windows updates are mandatory (even the ones you don't want that might screw up your computer), etc. Backdoors for government agencies, etc.
Basically, Windows 10 is bad news.
that sucks about the back doors and stuff
This whole Windows 10 Free thing is silly anyway, Microsoft can't possibly believe that offering a free version of Windows will entice people to buy Windows 11/12/neo/One/whatever the hell they plan to call the next Windows after Windows 10. People don't buy Windows not because they're like "man, Windows Vista was so bad, screw Microsoft!" or "Windows 8 was too different, I'll never buy Microsoft again!" People don't buy Windows because it's stupidly priced, if the idea is to have everyone using a copy of Windows 8, then they should be selling these suckers at $50-100 a copy. Instead they sell the basic copy for something like $200-250, and the actual version everyone wants for $300-450, and then they wonder why everyone's pirating the damn thing.
If they were to start selling copies of Win8 and Win7 for $50 a pop, there'd be a lot less people pirating it.
I agree with you totally. Of course microsoft stupidly screwed the pooch on system32 and syswow64 folders and program files / program files(x86) and removed the start button.
morons
http://fox59.com/2015/06/01/microsoft-reveals-july-release-date-for-windows-10-offers-free-upgrades-for-life/
Windows, lol 😜
Quote from: Crewe on June 02, 2015, 12:52:06 AM
Windows, lol 😜
Still the largest market share by and large, until a better alternative to proprietary comes along, it'll be the most heavily used. ;D
and of course we know that means its always the best product dont we? ;-)
Quote from: Crewe on June 03, 2015, 01:20:27 AM
and of course we know that means its always the best product dont we? ;-)
Not really what I'm saying at all, sarcasm or not, but you can't force end-users or developers alike to abandon the most heavily used market and go off into wild country to adopt Loonix. And OS X is the worst choice of all. Until Vulkan and/or Mantle become a standard (if they become a standard), then Direct3D is still the most heavily used API. Even the current de facto standard multiplatform API (OpenGL) is only used by a small number of companies.
And a lot of developers wouldn't switch anyway because there is no registry system to protect their proprietary software from decompilers, and no way to handle proper DRM systems for paid software (because of how open and exploitable Linux tools are). I'm not saying that I agree with the way things are, but, from a business stand point it's hard to dissuade a developer from wanting to protect their software should they feel that piracy is too rampant an issue.
What would you suggest?
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-upgrade
I saw that icon in the task bar about a month ago. Decided to reserve a copy. So i'll let ya know how it goes.
I havent gotten the icon yet :(
I have been using the final build for about a week now. It has a couple of bugs, but seems to work okay.
It is free. From everything I've been reading, there's a couple of reasons for this.
First, Microsoft is trying to transition to a cell-phone type business model, where they get a cut of everything that is sold in the Windows store or whatever the hell they're calling it. So, they're not going to make their money on the OS, they're going to make it on the apps. Also, I think that with their OneDrive thing (their version of Dropbox), they may try to milk some cash out of you to buy more space in there.
Second, and this is more theory than research...look at what happened to Windows XP. MS stopped pushing out updates for it over a year ago, and over 10% of the internet STILL won't let it go. This is the internet equal to a guy whose wife has died but he can't bear to let her go so he keeps her dead body in the freezer. By giving away Windows 10, getting everyone they can to take advantage, and having a security-updates-whether-you-like-it-or-not system, the internet as a whole is far more secure which benefits us all. Besides, why would anyone not want to install a security update as soon as it is available? I've been in the IT business for 18 years now, and that one still baffles me.
In short, they're stealing some ideas from Apple and Android and rolling it up into Windows.
Oh, I forgot to put that it is only free the first year (if you upgrade an existing license), and the Enterprise version, the version where MS makes their most money, isn't ever going to be free. So, MS will still be making some money here.
If you want it for free, there are ways regardless. The last OS I actually paid for was XP Home on release day back in '02 or whatever it was...and I ended up regretting that decision. Blah.
Question for you Bret. I am about to upgrade my puter, Yes i still build them. I currently have win 7 Ent.
1. Is there a way to do a fresh install on the new build and get it that way?
2. I guess I am stuck with pro since enterprise wont be free?
Yes there is. Here's how I did it...
MS is offering the images in esd format (I think). If you google mydigitallife Windows 10 (awesome site, membership is free), you'll see a thread with download links, and also the decrypter files which will convert them to more familiar ISO's. Burn yourself a copy, or make an installer with a jump drive (I just burned some DVD's. Slower, but I "have them").
You'll want the Pro version. From what I've read, the only differences between Pro and Enterprise of Windows 10 is the licensing.
Upgrade your Win 7 to 10. Skip any request for a product key (there will be two or three). Once it is done, it will be activated. MS is storied hardware ID's for activated systems. So, at this point you can go ahead and do your fresh install, again skipping requests for keys. At this point MS will reference your hardware ID and will go ahead and activate.
This is what I did...and it worked for me twice already (one desktop, one laptop)
Well I built my computer and went ahead and installed win 7. I am reluctant to go to 10 just yet.
Quote from: Sakura on June 04, 2015, 02:08:04 PM
Quote from: Crewe on June 03, 2015, 01:20:27 AM
and of course we know that means its always the best product dont we? ;-)
Not really what I'm saying at all, sarcasm or not, but you can't force end-users or developers alike to abandon the most heavily used market and go off into wild country to adopt Loonix. And OS X is the worst choice of all. Until Vulkan and/or Mantle become a standard (if they become a standard), then Direct3D is still the most heavily used API. Even the current de facto standard multiplatform API (OpenGL) is only used by a small number of companies.
And a lot of developers wouldn't switch anyway because there is no registry system to protect their proprietary software from decompilers, and no way to handle proper DRM systems for paid software (because of how open and exploitable Linux tools are). I'm not saying that I agree with the way things are, but, from a business stand point it's hard to dissuade a developer from wanting to protect their software should they feel that piracy is too rampant an issue.
What would you suggest?
That you take it for the sarcastic comment it was. Mac handles everything i need for my business and then some, Windows is a serious pain in the ass and ill never go back. So dont we both have our preferences?
Yeah not going to 10 anytime soon.
I would recommend 10. It has all the interface goodness of Windows 7, and all the "under the hood" goodness of Windows 8.1 (there was a lot of goodness there, trust me).
Now that it is out, I see why 10 is free...they want to collect all the info they can about you, and give you targeted advertising. The masses will just install all the defaults and leave them on. The smarter people can turn off the data-mining technologies and enjoy both a great OS and privacy.
thats what I was worried about the datamining and privacy issues.