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Title: The Movies Thread
Post by: Sakura on May 19, 2014, 04:58:44 AM
Super 8
So I tuned in to this on TV (to my surprise), and I watched what was probably 30-60 minutes into the movie.  That's fine, typically the first half of a movie like this is just filler to get you introduced to characters that you don't care about anyway.  So as I come into the movie, there's a defiant kid with a chip on his shoulder because his mom died, and his fat douchebag of a friend who bullies and yells at him over insignificant things.  And part of the reason why is because of a love triangle (that only exists in fatty's head) with a girl that the protagonist likes (and she likes him).

The name of the movie comes from the camera used to film their home movie, a Super 8 film camera, which the bullying friend used as a means to try and get to know (and get her to like him, as if that would somehow work) the female tritagonist.  On the final day of shooting their movie, however, a violent eruption occurs and strange events unfold.  In the aftermath, they try to figure out just why it is that the military has shown up, but of course just like every movie, we get to hear the most cliched crap, "classified," "need to know basis, and you don't need to know," blah blah blah.  Makes me feel irritable when I see movies that always fall back on crap lines like that.

So the boys can't figure out what the problem is, until later that night they're watching the film reel that they've been shooting with.  During the events that took place, they video taped something that they never would have expected to (and never noticed the night it happened), and now they're aware of why the military has shown up.  During this time, the deuteragonist is introduced in the form of some kind of alien life form.  In a small town of 12,000 caught between an enraged alien and a military strike force hell bent on capturing it, our protagonist is further hampered when both his father and his would-be girlfriend are abducted.

So describing the jist of the rising narrative, I'll get to my own falling point thoughts.  What a waste of a good movie.  This movie had a lot of potential, it was really kind of exciting and intriguing to watch.  But I don't know if it was a budget constraint, or just bad writing, the final 20 minutes of the movie rendered the entire thing not only stupid, but a waste of time.  In the movie, the tired as hell plot device that it's a misunderstood gentle giant, and we're simply the monsters that made it into the unstoppable killer that it has become is present.  I'd really like to see some movies that don't use this.  Why does mankind always paint itself as this ignominious tyrant race that is the root cause of every problem?  Also present is the fat loudmouth character who shouts, it's like I'm watching The Goonies, but without the enjoyability that the Chunk character brought to The Goonies.  And just like the goonies cast, there's an inventor in this movie too, too bad he only knows how to make firecrackers.

The ending of the movie is the actual problem, but I don't want to spoil it.  That having been said, I still don't advise anyone to watch this movie.  I give this movie a 2 out of 5.  It was really great, and then it was just so, so bad.  If it weren't for the ending, it would have been a good movie.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on May 19, 2014, 03:11:16 PM
i agree the ending could have been better. To me it was a modern day goonies. Just rehashed
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on May 23, 2014, 03:52:18 PM
I reviewed this on the other site and my sentiment stands; this film was stinko
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on July 27, 2014, 09:11:46 PM
I had no idea that Mad Max was being rebooted by the guy that did them all in the first place...anyway, here's the first trailer for Mad Max: Fury Road.

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on July 28, 2014, 04:00:32 PM
yea, looking forward to this.  they were to film this and a sequel at the same time
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on August 03, 2014, 08:26:23 PM
Guardians of the Galaxy
Chris Pratt, Zoe Saldana, Bautista

It seems like Marvel Studios simply can't miss these days, with the likes of Thor, Captain America, The Avengers, Iron Man, Amazing Spider-Man, and X-Men all turning into major hits at the theatres. Most of them have even been enjoyable (ignores Iron Man 2). But I'll be honest, when I heard this got the green light I thought: what the f*ck? As with most Marvel releases though, I'll give it a shot...and I'm glad I did. The director does a good job of explaining the characters and their back stories, and I thought everyone was well cast (even the voices: Bradley Cooper, Vin Diesel, and Josh Brolin). Chris Pratt really does steal the show, though.

4 out of 5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on August 04, 2014, 12:23:26 AM
Guardians of the Galaxy
Chris Pratt, Zoe Saldana, Bautista

It seems like Marvel Studios simply can't miss these days, with the likes of Thor, Captain America, The Avengers, Iron Man, Amazing Spider-Man, and X-Men all turning into major hits at the theatres. Most of them have even been enjoyable (ignores Iron Man 2). But I'll be honest, when I heard this got the green light I thought: what the f*ck? As with most Marvel releases though, I'll give it a shot...and I'm glad I did. The director does a good job of explaining the characters and their back stories, and I thought everyone was well cast (even the voices: Bradley Cooper, Vin Diesel, and Josh Brolin). Chris Pratt really does steal the show, though.

4 out of 5

+1 to what norm said, I will add, that this movie seemed closer to a star wars type of movie than a super hero movie. Awesome movie, I would give a 4.5 out of 5.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on October 07, 2014, 10:01:40 PM
http://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/actors-play-incredible-versions-joker/

Never thought about Matt but I think he would make a great one. The others....maybe..
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Sakura on October 08, 2014, 06:01:44 AM
http://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/actors-play-incredible-versions-joker/

Never thought about Matt but I think he would make a great one. The others....maybe..

I dunno, we've had two perfect Jokers already, one of them is still alive, I think we should make use of him.  And what I mean is...  Mark Hamill.  The guy's been portraying the Joker for like 30 or more years now, and when people think of the Joker, they typically think of Mark's voice first, and then Heath's face second.  That's how I see it myself, really.  Simply put, Hamill has been doing a great job of the gig for so long now, even if you don't have him dress up as the Joker, I think having his voice be part of the role would be the best way to go about doing the Joker.

Not only has Hamill done the voice of the Joker in the animated series and the movies, he also does the voice of the joker in the Arkham series of video games.  The guy obviously loves the role, all he needs is a chance to do it.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: thaima1shu on November 05, 2014, 04:09:43 PM
Interstellar

This was a cool ass movie. Saw it last night on IMAX 70mm. If you have a real IMAX theater near you, do what you can to make sure you check it out there. Amazing visuals and Matthew McConaughey was incredible.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on November 07, 2014, 08:47:21 PM
Nightcrawler
Jake Gyllenhall, Rene Russo

This movie was alright, and Jake really had that creeper vibe nailed down (even I got creeped out in a couple of spots). Dragged in a couple of spots but overall not bad. Not the greatest date movie in the world though.  :P
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on November 10, 2014, 06:12:05 PM
I simply cannot buy into Jake, no matter what he does.
And while Im here, Edge of Tomorrow; above average, see it
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Rigg44 on November 24, 2014, 03:16:22 PM
I simply cannot buy into Jake, no matter what he does.
And while Im here, Edge of Tomorrow; above average, see it

Agree with the exception of bubble boy :)
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on December 29, 2014, 04:57:45 PM
X-Men: Days of Future Past
James McAvoy, Michael Fassbender, Jennifer Lawrence, Hugh Jackman, Sir Patrick Stewart, Sir Ian McKellan

Pretty ambitious getting the casts from the original X-Men to team up with the new group, but the story works for it here (of course it does, it's a comic book movie). Besides, X-Men: First Class was pretty good and this one doesn't disappoint as a sequel.

3.5 out of 5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on January 02, 2015, 02:07:45 AM
A script by Nicholas Pileggi (Goodfellas, Casino) about mobster Gregory Scarpa, is set to be produced by Irwin Winkler and directed by Brad Furman.
As a lover of all things mafia, I'm hoping this one turns out well, even with Stallone as the lead
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 12, 2015, 09:22:37 PM

New Avengers: Age of Ultron trailer just dropped. Oh my.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: thaima1shu on January 12, 2015, 11:06:20 PM
Must resist watching that. Don't want to see too much!
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on January 13, 2015, 04:24:57 PM
Hulk Buster Armor. I gotta say I know nothing of why its there, (never read Iron man comics, was a spidey geek)   but I look forward to the reasons. I do know they altered the origin of Ultron. Just like they did with Starlord. But I can live with it.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on July 31, 2017, 01:29:14 PM
is this the only movie thread we have? Mustve been buried by the TV thread...

In any event, just came her to say I took to the theater yesterday to see Fast Times at Ridgemoint High and it was just as fun as the other numerous times I viewed it on the big screen.
These Fathom Events are quite fun in order to relive old classics. They bring them back on anniversaries for two days, Sunday and Tuesday...which means you can still hit Fast Times if you want.
We went for Smokey and the Bandit erlier this year, the Godfather...Bonnie and Clyde is coming up as is the Princess Bride.
tickets are expensive, like 13 bucks, but I guess if you like it, you spend it.
Here's a link to the rest of this years releases.

https://www.fathomevents.com/series/tcm-big-screen-classics
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Sakura on July 31, 2017, 04:23:07 PM
is this the only movie thread we have? Mustve been buried by the TV thread...

In any event, just came her to say I took to the theater yesterday to see Fast Times at Ridgemoint High

Is it 1982? :D
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on July 31, 2017, 06:19:37 PM
I hear that movie splash is going to be good. I think that Tom Hanks guy will be a superstar actor in the years to come   :D
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on August 01, 2017, 11:51:08 AM
is this the only movie thread we have? Mustve been buried by the TV thread...

In any event, just came her to say I took to the theater yesterday to see Fast Times at Ridgemoint High

Is it 1982? :D

I wish it was, so many things to enjoy again, not to mention, do overs!
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on August 01, 2017, 11:53:53 AM
I hear that movie splash is going to be good. I think that Tom Hanks guy will be a superstar actor in the years to come   :D

lol oh the 80's
Title: Re: The Movie thread
Post by: Crewe on September 09, 2017, 04:58:47 PM
Emma Stone as BJK and Steve Carell as Bobby Riggs


Dubbed the battle of the sexes, this event put women's tennis on the map and was a pinnacle moment in the women's movement.
Looks fairly light hearted with some decent Carell moments but I think I'll pass.
I'd be curious though if there's a movie about the Williams sisters mouthing off and getting trounced on the court?
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on September 09, 2017, 04:59:57 PM
Oh btw norm, watched Deadpool today finally so I'm no longer an outsider 😎
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 30, 2017, 01:43:15 PM
Atomic Blonde
Charlize Theron James McAvoy John Goodman

It didn't take much for me to watch this as Ive been a fan of Theron since forever.
This is a Cold War spy flick taking place in East/West Berlin in the 80's, complete with European 80's soundtrack.
Theron is sent to Berlin to recover a top secret list containing an absurd amount of info on all the spies in Europe (I know, I thought MI immediately)
by MI6.
Told not to trust anyone, she's isolated immediately despite meeting her handler upon arriving, James McAvoy, who incidentally, also turned in a good performance. It sorta reminded of Edward Norton in The Italian Job at times.
Ive heard folks say this is her version of John Wick, also a good flick btw, and I somewhat agree except that the story, which is a retread of the spy genre is much better than JW.
Theron does a wonderful job and really brings a believable character to the screen.
It avoids the Bourne like choreography and sits in a bit more realism ala JW.with its combat style.
Good cinematography and some wonderfully creative directed scenes make this a wanna watch. I won't say must see but certainly an enthralling and entertaining ride.


4/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on October 30, 2017, 02:09:54 PM
I wanted to see that and just never made it to the theater. Good to hear it's enjoyable.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on November 02, 2017, 05:08:38 PM
Used my MoviePass today for the first time. Went and saw American Made, which I enjoyed for what it was. But boy, this MoviePass thing is awesome
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on November 03, 2017, 05:18:01 PM
 thought American Made was good. Wasn't accurate but close enough for a movie.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on November 03, 2017, 07:50:52 PM
Yeah, I mean, for what it was, the changes worked. I did like that they changed the inciting incident at the end from an article to a photo (definitely checked out the Wikipedia entry after, I had never heard of Seal's story).
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on November 03, 2017, 07:58:14 PM
oh yea? You shut read up on him if you're into that culture. Me? I love that stuff. Mark Bowden's book on Escobar was phenomenal (Blackhawk Down too) but doesn't touch on Seal much, if it all.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on November 06, 2017, 10:45:55 PM
Anyone see thor yet?
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on November 07, 2017, 11:23:22 AM
Thor was outright hilarious. Plot takes a bit of a backseat to the jokes and acting, but that's fine. If you enjoy the Marvel movies you'll definitely enjoy this one and it's definitely far superior to the other two Thor movies.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: thaima1shu on November 07, 2017, 11:44:56 AM
Agreed, I thought it was amazing. Incredibly funny and entertaining throughout. I enjoyed the first two Thor movies, but this one was a huge step up I feel like.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on November 08, 2017, 04:39:48 PM
nice thanks guys
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Sakura on November 08, 2017, 10:38:18 PM
Finally a Thor movie that wasn't bland and uninteresting.  Red Letter Media was right, I can't remember anything that happened in Thor 2.  I do remember the first one, though.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on November 12, 2017, 05:22:37 PM
What some of the others have said: Ragnarok was really good and well done. Funny and well-paced throughout. Not quite sure I'd put it on a level with the first Thor (which I really enjoyed), easily miles ahead of the second one which was okay but forgettable.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on November 29, 2017, 09:58:08 PM
OMG I CAN'T WAIT


...well, I can a little bit because I know at the end of the Infinity War movies this ensemble cast goes bye. But damn, I can't wait for this or Black Panther (which drops in February).
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Post by: TheNorm on March 16, 2018, 11:31:52 AM
Tickets already acquired for Thursday night...I can't f'ing wait.

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Post by: BojackHorsefella on March 16, 2018, 12:03:40 PM
Mine too. That last shot of Cap...goosebumps.
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Post by: BojackHorsefella on April 26, 2018, 12:39:47 PM
So...........who's all going tonight?
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on May 01, 2018, 08:57:41 PM
So...........who's all going tonight?

A few days late since I was out of town and too lazy to login on my phone, but I did...and Friday night too. :)
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on May 01, 2018, 10:25:06 PM
So...........who's all going tonight?

A few days late since I was out of town and too lazy to login on my phone, but I did...and Friday night too. :)

I have to wait two years for the crowds to thin so my girlfriend can go before I go see it again.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on May 01, 2018, 11:15:17 PM
me and the kids will head there friday i think.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on May 29, 2018, 08:55:19 PM
So uh I know Ive mentioned this here somewhere before never received closure, so Im trying again.

Training Day
Call this a plothole observation if you will, but I have questions. A friend recently commented on this movie recently and it opened up an old wound as Ive never been given a satisfactory explanation for the following, and Ill spoiler tag this just in case....
Spoiler: show

Alonzo meets his team on a parking garage rooftop. He introduces Jake and then instructs on of his guys to obtain picks and shovels from police maintenance and emphasized that he sign them out properly.
They proceed to Roger's abode and tell him he's being taxed, when we know Alonzo is robbing him to pay off the Russians.
Immediately after, the guys tear up his kitchen floor with said tools and meanwhile Alonzo is constantly smoking, putting out butts all over the floor. This seems benign but wait...
Once they skim his stash, they plan to leave the rest for "evidence" as a result of their serving a warrant.
Now, Alonzo kills Roger, sets up Hoyt for it and to make it look good, he shoots his own team member which was planned, but accidentally misses the vest. So they get their story straight and call it in, "officer down" which we all know brings a shitstorm of cops in seconds.
So here's my problem(s):
Who, pray tell, will Alonzo say dug up the floor? He cant say he did it, because, when would he have achieved that feat? According to the "story" the gang enters, Roger shoots a cop, Jake kills Roger, and they phone it in immediately.
If he says Roger dug up his own floor...well, why, first of all. Secondly, why are Alonzo's Kool's all over the floor.
Then there are the tools his man 'signed out" which have no role in this as far as I can tell.
Any rookie cop would smell a rat instantly in my mind.
Ive had people tell me it was Roger who did the digging, so the story would go, but they cannot elaborate.
Alonzo has crooked connections and we know, per the restaurant scene, corruption is wide spread. However, an officer down call with such a high dollar seizure is going to be under a microscope by the brass and even Alonzo doesn't have the scope to cover that mess.
So, tell me what the hell so I can get some sleep.

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on May 29, 2018, 09:51:44 PM
I suppose the guy could've dug up the floor to bury his money or retrieve previously buried money, if he was a crook or being framed as one.

As for the cigarettes, stress smoking because a member of his team got shot, maybe, as an excuse?
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on May 29, 2018, 10:25:09 PM
I suppose the guy could've dug up the floor to bury his money or retrieve previously buried money, if he was a crook or being framed as one.

As for the cigarettes, stress smoking because a member of his team got shot, maybe, as an excuse?

He certainly was a known drug dealer, but it just doesn't gel, especially with the way the scene unfolds and how Roger was killed.
The cigarette smoking was almost methodical and wouldn't suggest it was stress over a cops shooting, again, based on where they were and how it happened, not to mention how fast police would have arrived. I doubt he could've puffed out that many lol
It seems like Im resisting, but really, I just hope someone can make my aha light illuminate because I really liked this movie but for some reason Ive latched on to this scene and it wont go away. I think ive complicated a scene that was intended to be much simpler lol
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on June 06, 2018, 10:35:44 AM
https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-new-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse-trailer-is-un-1825337489

This and Mission Impossible: Fallout may be my most anticipated movies of the year.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on June 06, 2018, 11:58:04 AM
That Spidey trailer is legit.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on June 07, 2018, 06:07:02 PM
Anyone see Deadpool 2 yet? It was good. If you liked 1, you will like 2 i think. They expanded the universe to have an XForce movie like the Xmen. They copied MCU pretty good. DC should take notes on how to develop characters.  I gotta admit, I watched suicide squad twice just because i could not believe how awful it was.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on June 09, 2018, 09:01:47 AM
Really looking forward to this.

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on June 09, 2018, 09:32:26 AM
Looking forward to this too, and thank goodness they are ignoring all sequels and building off the original.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on June 20, 2018, 11:39:18 PM
Was a little worried when I found out Ryan Coogler wasn't directing this sequel, but this trailer has me a bit excited now. First movie was excellent.


Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on June 21, 2018, 12:01:12 AM
Yea first one was really good. It may seem cheesy for the casual observer to write it off because, Drago, but they can really make this a great film..
"You don't think I can beat him" was a wonderful callback to Mick. I really love the Creed Balboa storyline extending beyond those two. Really amped for this one.
Oh, and didn't you love the nod to Ali, shadow boxing underwater? Good stuff so far
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on June 21, 2018, 10:17:09 AM
The first one was so good.

I'm a little disappointed we're rehashing the Drago thing, but I can see where it makes sense for Creed's personal story. I know we'll see Dolph Lundgren in this film too (which, honestly, how was the elder Drago not murdered after losing to Rocky?)

Considering they flirted with it last film, I'm also worried about having a Rocky dying plot in this film or the next (wouldn't be surprised to see them do it in a third movie, considering how they like to pull stuff from the originals).

Don't get me wrong, I'll be there day one, I just would've liked a more original storyline, but I guess you can only do "underdog boxer fights his way to champion" so many times.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on June 21, 2018, 12:04:03 PM
Thats kinda what I was referencing, writing it off because of Drago. I still think it can be an original storyline, but realizing we are in the Rocky universe.
I think it will be a great story, or at least Im hopeful.
Agree that I really hope they don't kill Rocky off, I mean you can tell its heading that way and as you say, pulling from the original, but Id rather it not happen.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on June 21, 2018, 04:42:52 PM
Incredibles 2 is a good film.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on June 30, 2018, 02:06:58 PM
Had some time to kill lately so...

Ready Player One was pretty damn good-not as good as the book (what else is new) but still enjoyable. Like the book, still a ton of 80s nostalgia to see and Steven Spielberg was more than likely the perfect person to direct this. 3.75/5

Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom builds on the first reboot and was a ton of fun to watch. Good story, good pace. 4.25/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on June 30, 2018, 02:39:58 PM
Had some time to kill lately so...

Ready Player One was pretty damn good-not as good as the book (what else is new) but still enjoyable. Like the book, still a ton of 80s nostalgia to see and Steven Spielberg was more than likely the perfect person to direct this. 3.75/5

Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom builds on the first reboot and was a ton of fun to watch. Good story, good pace. 4.25/5


Boy, I wish I shared your opinion about either of these. I two started both. :(
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on July 01, 2018, 01:17:21 PM
Two started?

You and I were probably just looking for different things out of both of them.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: thaima1shu on July 01, 2018, 11:40:10 PM
I'm with Norm on both of those movies.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on July 01, 2018, 11:47:43 PM
Weirdos.

Let me further ruin my creditibility, then, and recommend Uncle Drew. Don't expect much from it, but think of it like a 90 minute SNL skit and you can temper your expectations accordingly. But it's fun, got some heart to it, and it's worth it for some of the more tailored to the NBA jokes.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on July 02, 2018, 08:51:25 AM
Uncle Drew looks hilarious and has been on my list to see.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: thaima1shu on July 30, 2018, 11:55:03 AM
Mission Impossible: Fallout

I really enjoyed Ghost Protocol and Rogue Nation, so the hype levels for this were through the roof. Expectations were met and somehow wildly exceeded. The action and stunts in this one were so suspenseful and well done. Tom Cruise continues to step it up with each one and you can tell how much he puts into these. It's really impressive how he does so many of these stunts himself. The story/writing were solid as well. Overall, this is one of my favorite action movies I've ever seen.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on July 30, 2018, 12:49:51 PM
I cannot wait to see this. I keep seeing it compared to Mad Max: Fury Road, because apparently the first 10 minutes set up the story and stakes, and the rest is just pure action.

Which, considering it's all recurring characters from the last movie, including the bad guy, that makes sense. We know who they are and what they want already, so just set them out to do it. Brilliant.

That being said, apparently MoviePass is blocking all showings right now. Partially (mostly?) because they don't have any cash to cover the ticket costs, I ALSO believe they may have been trying to show movie theaters how much they need MoviePass, but considering Fallout is already doing gangbusters at the box office that doesn't seem to be the case.

Anyways. I opened the app and it's still blocked today. I've got 6 movies I have to see this week with kiddo before he leaves on Sunday (Teen Titans Go, Blindspotting, The Meg (early screening at Alderwood Mall), Christopher Robin and The Miseducation of Cameron Post), so I'm aiming for Thursday for Fallout hoping MoviePass will quit being dicks. If not, I'll switch to AMC A-List that day, since my MoviePass expires in November anyway (and I refuse to pay for surge pricing if I sign back up, so that wasn't gonna happen anyway).

Although, with MoviePass looking like it's about to die, I have 0 idea what to do for kiddo (I bought him his own MoviePass back in, January or February, I think). He has no AMC near him in Myrtle Beach and the only other option is Sinemia, which is like $35 a month for 3 tickets. In SC, where he can get a ticket for like, 7 or 8 dollars, that's not a good deal.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on August 03, 2018, 05:14:45 PM
Ok, everyone chime in and give me one good movie suggestion for this weekend.
Can be anything. If its a series, id prefer to go to the beginning, unless Ive seen it already.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on August 03, 2018, 05:46:06 PM
Blindspotting. No hesitation. My movie of the year right now.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on August 06, 2018, 11:53:12 AM
I should have clarified, a stay at home movie.
So I picked BladeRunner 2049
Such a visually stunning picture.The world was especially well crafted without being overstated such as the prequel SW films. On top of that, the story was immersive, and, Ryan Gosling and Harrison Ford, that should be enough. But add Robin Wright and Jared Leto and you have a deeper cast to tell this amazing story.
Unlike most sequels, this one felt like it wrote itself naturally, just an instinctive cycle of humans, not forced or amped up in any fashion.
The first Blade Runner was panned somewhat because it was expected to be an action flick and the so called mundane nature of the film didn't still well with some critics or fans but, later and deservedly so, it became so well received because it wasn't a popcorn action flick. Well, 2049 holds to that same standard.
Ill also add that when you see this one, assuming you saw the original, the worlds also seem to naturally blend. Going back to the SW example. We saw EP IV, then along came EP I and your first thought was, the same worlds don't even look the same now, no continuity. BR holds that thread between films IMO.
Watch the first one if you haven't, then watch this one. If you have seen the original, watch it again, then watch this one
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on August 06, 2018, 12:02:55 PM
I liked 2049. Felt it was a bit long and I'm not sure it had the same focus as the first film, but like you said, visually it was absolutely stunning and a seamless transition from its predecessor, and of course all of the acting is on point.

When kiddo and I saw Dunkirk, we saw it in 70mm film at the Cinerama in Seattle, and they played a 2049 trailer. Made me REALLY wish they'd had a film version of that come out because it looked amazing up there on the screen.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on August 06, 2018, 12:15:01 PM
Agreed for sure
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on August 11, 2018, 10:55:16 PM
Tomb Raider (2018)

First things first, this was a better film than the Jolie version IMO.
That said, this was still an average movie. Alicia Vikander (Ex Machina) was quite good as Lara and handled the action well. She was believable as the young Croft but the story let her down as did some of the special effects.
It started out on a high note, but it just sloped downhill from then on with a few saving grace scenes peppered in here and there.
Despite some tense moments, albeit cliche ones, the movie just left me sorta meh. I didn't hate it, but Vikander was the best thing about it, although McNulty brought some weight to it as well.

3/5

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on August 13, 2018, 11:46:29 AM
Saw BlacKKKlansman on Saturday. It was very good and everyone should go see it. That is all.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on August 13, 2018, 12:05:42 PM
Tomb Raider (2018)

First things first, this was a better film than the Jolie version IMO.
That said, this was still an average movie. Alicia Vikander (Ex Machina) was quite good as Lara and handled the action well. She was believable as the young Croft but the story let her down as did some of the special effects.
It started out on a high note, but it just sloped downhill from then on with a few saving grace scenes peppered in here and there.
Despite some tense moments, albeit cliche ones, the movie just left me sorta meh. I didn't hate it, but Vikander was the best thing about it, although McNulty brought some weight to it as well.

3/5

will add this to the watch list then
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on August 21, 2018, 12:16:56 PM
I guess I could look it up, but Ill just ask, whats the order I should watch the MU films?
Ive seen a couple, the last being Civil War I think, Iron Man v Captain America. Any that I can skip? I know theres a shitload of them and don't think I need to see every single one, do I?
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on August 21, 2018, 12:32:44 PM
I guess I could look it up, but Ill just ask, whats the order I should watch the MU films?
Ive seen a couple, the last being Civil War I think, Iron Man v Captain America. Any that I can skip? I know theres a shitload of them and don't think I need to see every single one, do I?

So, as far as, if you were to watch all of them, I'd say just do it in order. Obviously with the after-credit scenes and some times little snippets that pull from the movies that came before, it just makes sense to do so.

As far as any you can skip...honestly, Thor II is pretty awful although it does introduce one of the Infinity Stones. Also Dr. Strange is pretty forgettable as a whole but it too introduces an Infinity Stone, actually has a clever ending and Strange ended up being one of the best elements of Infinity War.

Iron Man 2 is pretty skippable, I think. No infinity stone in that one, it introduces Black Widow but besides that...........there's not really much consequential. Unless you want to know how Rhodey becomes War Machine. Although the scene with the suitcase armor is still one of the MCU's best.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on August 21, 2018, 12:39:14 PM
It's BARELY an MCU film (although one character, outside of Hulk, does reoccur in Civil War and Infinity War) but The Incredible Hulk is pretty skippable as well.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on August 21, 2018, 01:04:30 PM
Ive seen Iron Man 2 and Hulk, never saw the first Thor, just not a fan the character but maybe I will.
Watched the first Deadpool but neither Spider Man.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on August 21, 2018, 01:19:42 PM
Well Deadpool and the Andrew Garfield and Tobey McGuire Spider-Men aren't MCU. Deadpool is Fox and McGuire-Garfield were Sony. Technically Tom Holland is Sony too but they made a deal with Marvel which allows them to co-produce his movies and allows Marvel to use Spider-Man in stuff like Civil War and Infinity War.

Thor's good. The first one is actually pretty good, even though they abandon that awful hair and eyebrows and sort of his whole personality over the course of the rest of the MCU. Thor went from serious, Shakespearean, to sort of funny in the first Avengers, to...sort of funny, sort of serious in Thor II, to whatever was going on in Age of Ultron, all the way to Thor: Ragnarok, perhaps the funniest MCU film.

And then somehow tied it all back together in Infinity War. So, yeah. Thor II may be awful, but Thor, as Chris Hemsworth portrays him, is one of the best parts of the MCU.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on August 21, 2018, 05:29:47 PM
I guess I could look it up, but Ill just ask, whats the order I should watch the MU films?
Ive seen a couple, the last being Civil War I think, Iron Man v Captain America. Any that I can skip? I know theres a shitload of them and don't think I need to see every single one, do I?

I think they all are worthy except for the Fantastic 4 films and spider man 3.

The spiderman films like Buc said arent MCU, but are still fun. (Also ignore spiderman 3)

You could skip Ant man, but it is a fun movie.
XMen are not MCU (as buc mentioned) but again fun. I would start at the McAvoy films and watch those, they basically retcon the first 3 Xmen movies and they werent as good.

Deadpool is awesome

Here are the ones i would watch (based on my enjoyment)

Iron man
Hulk (edward norton)
Thor
Captn America
Avengers (1st one)
Winter Soldier Guardians of the Galaxy
Civil War
Dr Strange
Guardians 2
Spiderman HJomecoming
Ragnarok
Black Panther
Infinty War

Most of the other are good to ok also (avengers 2 was so so) the Iron man Sequels left a lot to be desired.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on August 22, 2018, 01:20:53 AM
I guess I could look it up, but Ill just ask, whats the order I should watch the MU films?
Ive seen a couple, the last being Civil War I think, Iron Man v Captain America. Any that I can skip? I know theres a shitload of them and don't think I need to see every single one, do I?

I think they all are worthy except for the Fantastic 4 films and spider man 3.

The spiderman films like Buc said arent MCU, but are still fun. (Also ignore spiderman 3)

You could skip Ant man, but it is a fun movie.
XMen are not MCU (as buc mentioned) but again fun. I would start at the McAvoy films and watch those, they basically retcon the first 3 Xmen movies and they werent as good.

Deadpool is awesome

Here are the ones i would watch (based on my enjoyment)

Iron man
Hulk (edward norton)
Thor
Captn America
Avengers (1st one)
Winter Soldier Guardians of the Galaxy
Civil War
Dr Strange
Guardians 2
Spiderman HJomecoming
Ragnarok
Black Panther
Infinty War

Most of the other are good to ok also (avengers 2 was so so) the Iron man Sequels left a lot to be desired.

That helps guys, thanks.
Using the list above, through Guardians 2, I've seen them all except Thor and Dr Strange.
I didn't realize I'd seen so many.
Wasn't there another Spuderman before Homecoming?
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on August 22, 2018, 10:47:44 AM
There were 3 Toby McGuire Spider man movies

then Sony rebooted the franchise with Garfield. 2 movies both were pretty good, not excellent.

They tried to start a sinister 6 story line. It did well at the box office. But not MCU well. So Sony went to Marvel and rebooted Spidey a 3rd time. So far there are 6 spiderman movies. Homecoming is MCU cannon
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on August 22, 2018, 10:59:59 AM
Spider-Man debuted in the MCU in Civil War, so maybe that's what you're thinking of Crewe.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on August 22, 2018, 11:37:56 AM
There were 3 Toby McGuire Spider man movies

then Sony rebooted the franchise with Garfield. 2 movies both were pretty good, not excellent.

They tried to start a sinister 6 story line. It did well at the box office. But not MCU well. So Sony went to Marvel and rebooted Spidey a 3rd time. So far there are 6 spiderman movies. Homecoming is MCU cannon
wait, Im confused.
3 McGuire films
Reboot with 2 Garfield films
And then Homecoming with a first appearance in Civil War, that right?
Im lost with the 3rd reboot comment.

And buc, thats exactly what it was now that you mention it, thanks
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on August 22, 2018, 12:00:49 PM
Just numbers confusion. It was the second time Spidey got rebooted, the third actual iteration though (McGuire-Garfield-Holland).
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on August 22, 2018, 12:30:30 PM
now Im up to speed lol
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on August 27, 2018, 11:56:40 AM
Top 5 Last Line(s) in a Movie

1. The Godfather - "Don Corleone."

2. Jaws - "I used to hate the water."

3. Shawshank Redemption - "I hope the Pacific is as blue as it is in my dreams. I hope."

4. The Usual Suspects - "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didnít exist. And like that Ė poof Ė heís gone!Ē

5. Chinatown - "Forget it, Jake, it's Chinatown." (I uh...have never actually seen this, and at some point I REALLY need to correct that, but I can still recognize it's an iconic line).
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on August 27, 2018, 02:02:29 PM
We did this a while back, but Ill play again...

Im sure mine have changed since there are so many great ones

Seven
Ernest Hemingway once wrote, "The world is a fine place and worth fighting for. I agree with the second part.

Clockwork Orange
I was cured all right

Goodfellas
Right after I got here, I ordered some spaghetti with marinara sauce and I got egg noodles and ketchup. I'm an average nobody. I get to live the rest of my life like a schnook.

Magnum Force
A man's got to know his limitations

And uh, point of order, but that is not the last line in Jaws IIRC. Hooper follows with, I cant imagine why.
But I get the spirit of the question so with that, Ill follow suit and add this gem from the original Bad News Bears which is also the second to last line...
Hey Yankees, take your trophy AND your apology and shove it straight up your ass,
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on August 27, 2018, 02:13:38 PM
Oh, did we? I thought it may have seemed familiar as I was posting it, haha.

Also meant to put this in the Top Five thread but that was a swing and a miss too, evidently.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on August 27, 2018, 02:31:43 PM
and Ill add on where I did see your original post said last line(s) so disregard my haughty observation lol
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on September 02, 2018, 02:47:51 PM
I get two free movies in 4k off of my TV, so which should I choose?
I noted ones with No that ive seen or dont want to see

Spider Man Homecoming
Amazing Spider Man 1 and 2
Passengers
Long Halftime Walk
Inferno
The Shallows NO
5th Wave NO
Concussion
Captain Phillips NO
Elysium
Battle: Los Angeles
Moneyball NO
Taxi Driver; seen it but might still be an option here
Trainspotting
Underworld Blood Wars
Chappie
Ghostbusters female version NOOOOOO
Rough Night
Life
Dark Tower
Close Encounters
Baby Driver NO
Flatliners (new one and NOOOOOOO)
Dracula
Only the Brave
All the money in the world
Jumanji
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on September 02, 2018, 03:31:49 PM
Honestly, for the 4K aspect of it, I'm obliged to lean towards action movies like the Spider-Man films.

For that, depends on what you want. Combination of Jumanji (I'm assuming it's the new one) gives you a great film that's really fun and extremely funny, pair that with Homecoming and you have the latest iteration of Spider-Man and the most "canon" one as he actually belongs to the MCU.

If you don't care about the MCU but like Spider-Man, the 2 for 1 value of both Amazing Spider-Man films paired with Jumanji is probably the best value. I like the 2nd Amazing Spider-Man, it's mindless and full of plot holes but it really feels like a comic book movie. The first ones a bit more dull but Dennis Leary is great in it and I like Garfield and Emma Stone.

My 2 cents.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on September 02, 2018, 05:50:39 PM
Yea, I agree, so Homecoming is a lock. Jumanji isn't me I dont think, nor the other 2 SM flicks.
I think Im down to All the money in the world, Concussion, Elysium, Taxi Driver or Baby Driver again.
All but the last two seem sort of tepid, but Ill let it marinate and see what comes to pass.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on September 03, 2018, 12:51:28 PM
Spiderman Homecoming
Im sure everyone has seen this, but spoilers anyway...
Spoiler: show

This one was fun and for a reboot it was better than Maguire's version
While cheesy at times and with quite a predictable story it does a good job of developing the Spiderman character.
This film doesn't take itself too seriously which adds to the charm and likability. I thought Karen was a bit much in the long run but otherwise a fun romp.
I also liked the fact that the death of Ben Parker wasnt dwelled on like it was in Maguire's Spiderman, it just felt off as a motivation.
Jon Favreau on screen doesn't work well for me even though I know Im probably in the minority there.
But I will say the bathroom scene at the end of the film was perfect juxtaposition and timing, best laugh of the movie for me.
I didnt get too much out of the sidekick but I guess thats just to be accepted, and as an aside, Laura Harrier is 28 years old?  :o
One last item; Im really indifferent about it, and I understand the MU universe is merged with ours to a slight degree, but a completely robotic Iron Man? It just seems to create such unseemly possibilities. But thats me, and I digress.

Overall good flick, looking forward to 2.

3.75/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on September 03, 2018, 04:05:38 PM
There have been completely robotic Iron Men since at least Oron Man 3. Also featured on Age of Ultron.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on September 03, 2018, 05:35:24 PM
yea I realize that, but still doesn't mean Im on board completely ;-)
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on September 23, 2018, 08:09:32 PM
Solo

When this was announced I was against it. After Ive seen it, Im still against it.
Ill concede it was better than I thought it would be and Ron Howard and Woody Harrelson had more to do with that than anything.
When it was first reported Alden Ehrenreich was Solo, it was obvious to me, other than the fact we didnt need this story, that this wasn't going to work.
Nothing against him, but he wasn't Solo and its not all his fault. Harrison Ford created a character you cannot replicate. His "it" factor cannot be bottled and this much was obvious. The guy we see in this flick was not Solo. Sure, at times there were flashes of the substance of his character, but then again not really.
If you are immersed in the SW universe, then yes, see it, thats why I did. If not, dont waste your time.
Again, it wasn't horrible and its still better than any of the prequels, although not by much over III, but if its raining outside and you have access to Dominos, give it a go.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on September 30, 2018, 12:45:18 PM
This looks better the closer it gets, and I can't wait. I hope they can keep up the story that Ryan Coogler started with the first one.

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on September 30, 2018, 11:22:22 PM
He broke things in me that aint never gonna be fixed
That Rocky/Drago stare down was epic!
Loved the nod to Ali with the underwater training
Rocky is such a great character and Creed was a terrific film, I hope this one surpasses it!
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on October 03, 2018, 01:10:51 AM
He broke things in me that aint never gonna be fixed
That Rocky/Drago stare down was epic!
Loved the nod to Ali with the underwater training
Rocky is such a great character and Creed was a terrific film, I hope this one surpasses it!

That nod to Ali was incredible, and I love the music too; that orchestral cut with DMX is nice.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on October 09, 2018, 10:02:47 AM
Loved both Deadpool 2 and Ant-Man and the Wasp.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on October 09, 2018, 04:12:10 PM
Loved both Deadpool 2

The new ant man and black panther are still on my back log lol

Hearing good things about venom despite the critics so I bet it is decent
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on October 09, 2018, 05:39:10 PM
Loved both Deadpool 2

The new ant man and black panther are still on my back log lol

Hearing good things about venom despite the critics so I bet it is decent

Venom is....sort of a throwback to the Ghost Rider/Spawn/Daredevil/Blade days of superhero movies. The plot is basically incoherent, nothing anyone does makes any sense, but for about an hour, you get to watch Venom jump around and beat up bad guys, so, you know, if that's all you want, it's perfectly fine.

It just goes to show, just like Sony never really understood Spider-Man, they don't understand his roster either. I'm not saying it's not a fun movie, or not entertaining (that being said, I think it's worth a rental than theater prices), but it didn't do much for me.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on October 12, 2018, 07:18:50 PM
Loved both Deadpool 2

The new ant man and black panther are still on my back log lol

Hearing good things about venom despite the critics so I bet it is decent

Venom is....sort of a throwback to the Ghost Rider/Spawn/Daredevil/Blade days of superhero movies. The plot is basically incoherent, nothing anyone does makes any sense, but for about an hour, you get to watch Venom jump around and beat up bad guys, so, you know, if that's all you want, it's perfectly fine.

It just goes to show, just like Sony never really understood Spider-Man, they don't understand his roster either. I'm not saying it's not a fun movie, or not entertaining (that being said, I think it's worth a rental than theater prices), but it didn't do much for me.

cool thanks for the heads up
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on October 19, 2018, 02:04:19 PM
Everybody, do me a favor and go see Bad Night at the El Royale, because it is AMAZING, but it's an indie, and it's not a superhero movie or an established franchise, so it's not making any money and that's unfortunate. This is why we don't get original movies when people complain Hollywood doesn't make original movies anymore.

Bring friends!
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 19, 2018, 04:44:24 PM
I dont go to the theatre much but am really considering this and Halloween
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on October 19, 2018, 05:24:33 PM
I dont go to the theatre much but am really considering this and Halloween

I've got the AMC Stubs A-List, so I pay $20 a month and can see 3 movies a week for free (and, unlike the dying MoviePass, which I loved, this lets me order my seats online and see Dolby or IMAX at no extra cost). Saw First Man and El Royale last week, seeing The Hate U Give today, Old Man and the Gun tomorrow and Halloween on Sunday.

Haven't heard great things about Halloween, but, oh well. The soundtrack is enough for me to enjoy it as a whole, haha.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 19, 2018, 05:29:04 PM
Ive heard good things about it. I dont expect to be bowled over but Im cautiously optimistic
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 26, 2018, 10:42:44 PM
Can I just reiterate that Disney is killing the SW franchise by saturating us with films?
Just read a Bobba Fett film was nixed, and thank goodness for that.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on October 26, 2018, 11:11:53 PM
You can thank Solo's bad performance for that, and "The Mandalorian" tv show coming to Disney's streaming service. I agree with you though, nobody needed that movie.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 27, 2018, 02:18:32 PM
I refuse to thank Solo for anything lol
I was against the very idea. Id much rather have seen an Obi Wan film revolving around the Clone Wars if we had to have one.
After they finish up with Rey, they need to move out of the Skywalker franchise.
Hell, venture in to the Old Republic stories
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on November 04, 2018, 01:47:31 AM
Anyone see The Girl in a Spider's Web?

I hate to say this but after seeing the trailer, I'm seriously disappointed.
Lisbeth is now an action hero? Please.
Fincher's Dragon Tattoo was styled much closer to the book's character. This just seems like you could've called this movie generic action movie 4,322.

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on November 04, 2018, 10:55:14 AM
I think that's how the second book actually went though. More action, almost a superhero "avenging angel" kind of thing, lile Punisher. The movie does look like a Mission Impossible film, with Lisbeth as Ethan and her support as the rest of the IMF.

I just wish the trailer didn't spoil the entire movie, as it appears to do.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on November 05, 2018, 12:07:02 PM
I didn't read it, but if it did then Im really not interested because that is such a departure from what Larsson's character was in the books and other films.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on November 05, 2018, 12:46:37 PM
I didn't read it, but if it did then Im really not interested because that is such a departure from what Larsson's character was in the books and other films.

So, reading the wiki entry, I now see that this is apparently the FOURTH book, and was not written by Stieg. Although apparently it was received well. Which is a lot of words to say: actually I do not know.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on November 05, 2018, 06:39:40 PM
yea, he just did the first three, Im not interested much in the others right now.
If you see, read or get an informed opinion that might change mu mind let me know, but Im shelving it in the interim.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on November 06, 2018, 02:08:25 PM
https://film.avclub.com/the-girl-in-the-spider-s-web-pits-lisbeth-salander-agai-1830239792

This is one of the few sites whose reviews I trust (the others being io9, who usually only do fantasy or sci-fi movie reviews (or comic book movies), that's sort of their thing, but this may pop up on there. The other being Scott Mendelson, the Forbes movie reviewer.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2018/10/29/review-girl-in-the-spiders-web-claire-foy-lisbeth-salander-jason-bourne-james-bond-batman/#71fdc3942e82

Forgot Scott reviewed it, added the link here.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on November 06, 2018, 05:06:49 PM
yea A/V Club is about all I follow to.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on November 06, 2018, 05:35:42 PM
Got tickets to see it with the fiance on Saturday. Seeing Overlord on Sunday.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on December 08, 2018, 02:32:10 AM
Been awhile since Iíve done this...

Creed II
Michael B. Jordan, Sylvester Stallone, Tessa Thompson, Florian Munteanu, Dolph Lundgren, Phylicia Rashad

Steven Caple, Jr. takes over directing duties from Ryan Coogler and delivers a solid follow up to the incredible Creed. The Drago story was a nice touch and well done-really ties in the past with the present, covering what happens to Drago from Rocky IV while making sure it doesnít overpower the story of the sons. This movie also does a nice job of focusing on family and how Adonis has to adjust the limelight and other things. Really enjoyable movie. 4.25 out of 5 stars

Also recently watched Equalizer 2 and Oceanís 8; both were worth checking out but Iím not writing out a review on my 📱, this is a pain lol. 💩 Just go see them.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 08, 2018, 10:35:38 AM
Creed II definitely on my list. Oceans 8 I wrote off immediately ala the rebooted Ghostbusters. Its really worth checking out?
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on December 08, 2018, 11:49:33 AM
Creed II definitely on my list. Oceans 8 I wrote off immediately ala the rebooted Ghostbusters. Its really worth checking out?

It really was. Captures the spirit of the Oceanís films before it and was done quite well. The ladies turned in some really good performances there.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on December 08, 2018, 12:49:27 PM
Oceans 8 was good. I wasn't a huge fan of the Ghostbusters movie (I haven't liked any Paul Feig movie, except Spy). Plus, I like those actresses but they're not on par with the originals.

Oceans 8, however, is more of a match. Bullock can match Clooney, Blanchette is just so cool, and the story is a lot closer to your typical Oceans movie than whatever the new Ghostbusters was trying to do (it was just a really, really badly written movie). I'd say it's definitely worth renting Oceans.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 08, 2018, 06:49:50 PM
Cool. Ill check it out then. And for the record, I did not intend to say O8 was equal trash to GB, I just didn't think it was in line with the other Oceans flicks.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on December 08, 2018, 06:52:22 PM
Cool. Ill check it out then. And for the record, I did not intend to say O8 was equal trash to GB, I just didn't think it was in line with the other Oceans flicks.

Wasn't trying to imply that you were, sorry if it came off that way. That film is, ahem, touchy, but it's failures isn't the cast's fault.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 08, 2018, 10:53:47 PM
Cool. Ill check it out then. And for the record, I did not intend to say O8 was equal trash to GB, I just didn't think it was in line with the other Oceans flicks.

Wasn't trying to imply that you were, sorry if it came off that way. That film is, ahem, touchy, but it's failures isn't the cast's fault.

oh, its cool, I didn't infer your post in that way, just thought I sounded a bit snarky initially lol

Re: Ghostbusters; not all their fault but it seemed hotly over acted though.
And the promotions of that film,, yea, I had a problem with that. Calling me a misogynistic pig because I didn't like your precious cheap knick off?
No, I didn't hate it because you were women, I hated it because it was a bad idea and it sucked on top of that.
After listening to their BS I was never happier a film became a laugh8ing stock, which it is...
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 09, 2018, 01:53:32 PM
So I watched the latest Thor and I didn't think Id like it, but I did despite it being over the top at points, even as a comic book movie.
Black Panther, not so much. I mean it was a great story but it just didn't seem to resonate with me.
Good flick, Im just not head over heals for it like everyone else appeared to be.
Infinity War is next, then I think Ill be caught up except some patchwork fill ins
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on December 09, 2018, 02:12:46 PM
So I watched the latest Thor and I didn't think Id like it, but I did despite it being over the top at points, even as a comic book movie.
Black Panther, not so much. I mean it was a great story but it just didn't seem to resonate with me.
Good flick, Im just not head over heals for it like everyone else appeared to be.
Infinity War is next, then I think Ill be caught up except some patchwork fill ins

Spider-Man: Homecoming?????? Or did you already see it?
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 09, 2018, 02:49:39 PM
yep, saw that one too. Im told I kinda need to see Ant Man, but I dunno...arent there two or three of them?
its amazing to me there are so many damn MU films. Aren't there like three or four Thor films? That blew me away too just because I saw him as a secondary MU character
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on December 09, 2018, 03:42:46 PM
3 Thor films, 3 Iron Man and 3 Cap (including Civil War which was Captain America: Civil War, even though it felt more like Avengers 2.5.

2 Guardians, 2 Ant Man's (watch the second AFTER Infinity War). the Ant-Man movies are worth it just for the cast.

Doctor Strange can be skipped. He plays a big role in IW, but, his movie is rough to get through.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on December 10, 2018, 12:31:21 PM
I donít think you need to watch Doctor Strange before, but I do believe you need to see it. I was skeptical about it but actually felt it was well done.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 10, 2018, 02:05:19 PM
I just don't get in to Dr. Strange, but that not withstanding, I finished up Infinity War which I liked. Now I have to fit in the two Ant Man's and it felt like I need to patch some other holes, or maybe I need to re read plots of the ones Ive watched because I have a hard time keeping storylines together because there's so damn many films. If it's Star Wars, no problem, but for some reason Im not retaining Marvel lol

Btw, watched Oceans 8 as well. It was a decent flick, I wasn't enamored by it but it wasn't nearly as bad as I initially thought it was going to be. So thanks for the suggestion
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 10, 2018, 10:10:08 PM
Halloween (2018)
Jamie Lee Curtis

This Halloween is not a reboot but a sequel, and not a sequel to the other Halloween failures, but instead its a follow up to the original Carpenter masterpiece in 78. All those other films are not acknowledged in this feature.

Laurie Strode spent the years since the original readying herself for the return of Michael Myers, living, or existing as it were, in her survival dwelling estranged from her family.
Michael Myers, at this point is almost myth like in the sense the town and especially Laurie's family, don't really acknowledge those events.
So her daughter separated from Laurie at a young age after being unwilling to continue the survival training bestowed upon her by dear old mom.
Choosing a much sunnier disposition and a life with mom on the fringe was much more amiable.

Meanwhile, podcasters, while under the guise of do gooders, seek out Michael Myers for an interview before he is taken to a harsh institution void of any mental health such as the one the currently houses him.
While there is no mystery as to the story from here on out it is told in a surprisingly tense manner ala the original film.
The direction and cinematography capture the essence of the original Halloween without becoming a nostalgic trip, although, there is a nod or two back to carpenter's version.
The problem with slasher pics in general are plot holes, not necessarily to the story overall, but to a particular scene or scenes. This film is not without those flaws but it also absorbs those oversights and flourishes as a horror vehicle worthy of its predecessor.

The cast delivers a steady performance and Jamie Lee Curtis still carries weight as the tortured Laurie Strode.
This film is certainly worth a look.

3.75/5

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on December 10, 2018, 11:31:26 PM
It was better than I had expected, but I should have guessed since it had Carpenters blessing. He even did the music again.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on December 15, 2018, 02:26:10 PM
Just a heads up, the trailers weren't a lie, Spider-Man: Into The Spiderverse is AMAZING. My #3 movie of the year.

Seeing The Mule tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 15, 2018, 09:18:53 PM
Im optimistic about The Mule, but am hoping for Gran Torino Eastwood and not Trouble With the Curve Eastwood.

So, #3 eh? what, prey tell, are one and two?
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on December 15, 2018, 09:31:53 PM
Blindspotting and Eighth Grade, respectively.

I've got reviews for all the movies I've seen this year (I started off doing full reviews, now I just do a simple is it worth seeing gimmick). I also have a ranking of all the films I've seen this year:

My profile on Letterboxd https://letterboxd.com/Bucfever
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 16, 2018, 09:32:06 PM
So, I caught up on quite a bit of my Marvel quest. Now in th bag are both Ant Man movies and Age of Ulton which I realized I hadn't seen.
Only films I have not seen now are the first two Thor's (do I need to?) and Doctor Strange.

I can hardly recall anything from The First Avenger and Winter Soldier. The others I can recall better but still have only seen once.
If I were to do a run through refresh, which films would you deem important enough to see again, or do I need to see any three that I haven't thus far?
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 31, 2018, 10:01:39 PM
First Man
Ryan Gosling

The story of Neil Armstrong and his involvements in the Gemini and Apollo programs beginning as a test pilot.
Gosling gives a solid performance here backed up by a great performance by Kyle Chandler as Deke Slayton.
I would say spoilers ahead, but if you don't know the story by now, well, you're about to be spoiled.
Armstrong is calm and almost stoic in the face of doom and tragedy which he faces throughout this picture.
It begins with him losing his young daughter Karen to brain cancer and that is a theme running throughout the film. Hence we see unspoken tension amongst his family but all the while we know he is dealing with the tragedy of his brothers who perished in another Apollo test prior to the moon landing.
All in all, a really well done movie. The space scenes were tight and confined to replicate the astronauts conditions, coupled with the tension and anxiety of sudden problems all the way down to what one would deem a simple landing.
You would immediately compare the space scenes to Apollo 13 but this, although much more brief in stressfulness (13 was a film's worth) First Man had a bit of a different feel to it, not better or worse, just as effective, but different.
Personally, I didn't like the score revolving around the moon landing, it just didn't fit.
Secondly, all I heard was "the flag, the flag! as the US Flag was not planted. I reserved judgement because I wanted to see the film and now that I have....well, within the scene itself, I get why they didn't include that happening. It wasn't part of Armstrong's character or growth in this particular story.
That said, immediately after the landing we are shown the American Flag in celebratory scenes along with archived newsreels. In addition to, it was mentioned head on multiple ties in this movie that it was in fact a space race and that the Soviets were well ahead of us. So, with that being a fact, it doesn't make much sense to avoid the flag on the moon.
However, once you see it, I think you will feel just the way I do which is, it wasn't exactly pertinent to that particular scene which was more about Armstrong and his struggles than the United States space race.
Yes, have some

4/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 31, 2018, 10:14:14 PM
Steve Martin and Martin Short
An Evening You Will Forget For the Rest of Your Life

Im not usually one for these types of variety show specials but Im a huge Steve Martin fan and Martin Short as well, maybe not his movies so much, but he's a great talent and storyteller.
What you get here are Martin and Short playing off of each other for a segment, telling how they met on Three Amigos and then they set each other up to tell a few short pertinent stories followed by solo bits.
Martin Short does his broadway type singing off the cuff joke teller while Martin relies on his love of music, primarily the banjo.
His band joins in for a tune and its really good (you should check out Martin's music) then we close with the both of them going at it again.
It really is a fun romp that moves pretty quickly and worth a watch if you are a fan of either.
If you don't really like either one, its hard to say what you will think, but give it a look anyway and let me know.

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on December 31, 2018, 11:48:33 PM
Really wanted to see Martin and Short when they were in Seattle, but the timing wasn't right.

Also, loved First Man (for whatever it's worth, kiddo did too). I understand why "mainstream audiences" may have been turned off, as the Armstrong character is playing so incredibly stoic the whole time, there's always a distance kept between the audience and the main subject. But the story, and the absolute technical mastery in how the movie was shot, had me in awe.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on January 01, 2019, 04:14:35 PM
Really wanted to see Martin and Short when they were in Seattle, but the timing wasn't right.

Also, loved First Man (for whatever it's worth, kiddo did too). I understand why "mainstream audiences" may have been turned off, as the Armstrong character is playing so incredibly stoic the whole time, there's always a distance kept between the audience and the main subject. But the story, and the absolute technical mastery in how the movie was shot, had me in awe.

yea I get that too, audience felt distant from Armstrong, but that's how you have to tell his story.
Film was well directed. I thought it demonstrated great talent, separating the feel from Apollo 13 which was going to be the immediate comparison.

Bad Times at El Royale

Starting out, this is my kinda movie.
Darlene Sweet (Cynthia Erivo) arrives at the El Royale Hotel where she meets Father Daniel Flynn (Jeff Bridges) in the parking lot.
The seemingly hokey dialogue regarding the weather in each state refers to the California / Nevada state line depicted by a thick red line stretching through the hotel. Upon entering the lobby, we find Laramie Sullivan (John Hamm) impatiently waiting for an employee to surface in the vacant hotel.
We then see, or rather hear, Emily Summerspring (Dakato Johnson) roar in to the parking lot in her American made muscle car.
Once in, we continue with the interesting, stand offish character introductions when Miles suddenly appears (Lewis Pullman) who is rustled from the back by Cynthia's rap on an employees only door.

The audience gets the spiel about the Royale, the Nevada rooms get the Vice City treatment with gambling and drinking while the California side gets the sun and outdoors.
The character reveals come somewhat slow for some and are unveiled after Billy Lee arrives (Chris Hemsworth) surprisingly (to the characters) to the Royale.
One might describe this film as a talkie and Ive even heard it described as a Bud Light Tarantino film. That comparison notwithstanding, I fell like this movie needs more than one watch, at least it does for me. Entertaining as it is, it left me with unanswered questions although I only saw it yesterday soIm still mulling it over.
The third act, always saves or kills a movie and I haven't decided which but what it does do is make me re tread everything and reconsider dialog which is usually a positive for me.
The art direction was spot on here and most of the actors delivered. Hemsworth was a bit over the top and hammy if you will, but he was a necessary plot device.
This is not a Tarantino like film and don't believe anyone that tells you otherwise. I think its a good not great film and you should give it a go.
It's expressive and ambiguous, perhaps short sighted at times, but worth a look.

Spoiler: show

So the state line is obviously (to me) good (CA) vs evil (NV) and I liked the reveal of Miles, especially him dying right on the line.
Darlene we know is good throughout with all the rotten treatment she receives. Emily is neutral evil and Rose being mesmerized by Billy Lee was certainly believable. I felt liked the artful manner in which Father Flynn was mysterious, being tied to the opening murder, but then using his Alzheimer's to soften his criminal past making him acceptable to Darlene and the audience.
Obviously El Royale is a mob bugged locale for Hoover's FBI and I enjoyed part of the mystery of Sullivan discovering other bugs, that was a nice little open ended hmmm...
However, him choosing to ignore orders to defuse a kidnapping seems to illicit good guy vibes, coupled with the fact he died early.
Ive had many ask me, what is the point of the movie? That seems to be the main source of confusion.
I mean, to me, the point was that there are grey areas within us and its not just a good and evil state line running through our conscious.
Maybe I missed the point, I dunno.

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on January 04, 2019, 03:38:54 PM
Seeing as how it's now a new year, figured I'd futz around and throw out some stuff in here.

So, the first movie I saw last year was Molly's Game. I, personally, did not enjoy it very much at all. The last movie I saw last year was, actually, Die Hard. While in Myrtle for Christmas I was able to take kiddo to the "Flashback Cinema" that I used to take him to, where one of the theaters shows an old movie every Sunday and Wednesday. Well, the 30th was Die Hard and I wasn't missing seeing that in theaters.

My top rated (and favorite) movie of 2018: Blindspotting (5 stars).

Lowest rated movie: The Cloverfield Paradox (1 star)

How many movies got how many stars? I've got you covered:

5 stars: 8 movies
4 - 4.5: 22
3 - 3.5: 27
2 - 2.5: 10
1 - 1.5: 3

Best Animated (and most mind-blowing) movie? Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse. That was such a treat and really lived up to the expectations.

Best Documentary: Well, I only saw one, so it goes to Won't You Be My Neighbor

Biggest Surprise: Upgrade. Or as I like to call it: Venom 1.0, because this movie shares a plot, basically, and literally action sequences with Venom, but this came out first. And it's better. Also Logan Marshall Greene looks like Tom Hardy but actually knows how to use his voice instead of random made-up voices no one uses in real life.

Worst Sequel: I'd say Cloverfield Paradox, but are those movies really sequels? Kind of an anthology series, right? If not Paradox, then easily Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom.

Best Horror Movie: It's ranked 40th overall on my list of movies (and this requires you thinking that Searching, which was amazing, is a thriller and not horror and that The Meg, which was better than it had any right to be, is an action and not a horror, all of which I think are accurate), but, all that aside, it's Halloween. I liked it a lot more than I expected.

Best Drama: Blindspotting, obviously.

Best Action: Mission Impossible: Fallout, easily. This movie was insane. I love how McQuarrie allowed Rogue Nation to basically be the prologue so him and Tom Cruise could just go balls to the wall for this movie, because it freaking worked. That was a good time in the theater.

Best Thriller/Mystery: Searching. Seriously, if you didn't catch this in theaters, you need to see it. John Cho is GREAT in it, plus that ending, my goodness. Literally got chills thinking about it right now.

Oh, and lastly, Best Comedy: Blockers, which I have 16th overall on my list. That and Game Night were easily this year's standouts, and they were both early in the year. No others really came close (Tag was better than I expected, but nowhere near as good as the other two).


That's all I've got for now. Full rankings for all 70 movies here:

https://letterboxd.com/bucfever/list/films-ive-seen-in-2018-rankings/detail/
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 08, 2019, 03:38:36 AM
Watched Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse a few days ago and was blown away by just how incredible it was. More superhero movies need to be like this.

Anyway, hereís an article worth reading if youíve already seen the film (there be spoilers). That moment hit me.

https://kotaku.com/spider-man-into-the-spider-verses-best-moment-comes-fr-1831554553
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on January 11, 2019, 02:22:20 AM

My top rated (and favorite) movie of 2018: Blindspotting (5 stars).

Lowest rated movie: The Cloverfield Paradox (1 star)

How many movies got how many stars? I've got you covered:

5 stars: 8 movies
4 - 4.5: 22
3 - 3.5: 27
2 - 2.5: 10
1 - 1.5: 3

Best Animated (and most mind-blowing) movie? Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse. That was such a treat and really lived up to the expectations.

Best Documentary: Well, I only saw one, so it goes to Won't You Be My Neighbor

Biggest Surprise: Upgrade. Or as I like to call it: Venom 1.0, because this movie shares a plot, basically, and literally action sequences with Venom, but this came out first. And it's better. Also Logan Marshall Greene looks like Tom Hardy but actually knows how to use his voice instead of random made-up voices no one uses in real life.

Worst Sequel: I'd say Cloverfield Paradox, but are those movies really sequels? Kind of an anthology series, right? If not Paradox, then easily Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom.

Best Horror Movie: It's ranked 40th overall on my list of movies (and this requires you thinking that Searching, which was amazing, is a thriller and not horror and that The Meg, which was better than it had any right to be, is an action and not a horror, all of which I think are accurate), but, all that aside, it's Halloween. I liked it a lot more than I expected.

Best Drama: Blindspotting, obviously.

Best Action: Mission Impossible: Fallout, easily. This movie was insane. I love how McQuarrie allowed Rogue Nation to basically be the prologue so him and Tom Cruise could just go balls to the wall for this movie, because it freaking worked. That was a good time in the theater.

Best Thriller/Mystery: Searching. Seriously, if you didn't catch this in theaters, you need to see it. John Cho is GREAT in it, plus that ending, my goodness. Literally got chills thinking about it right now.

Oh, and lastly, Best Comedy: Blockers, which I have 16th overall on my list. That and Game Night were easily this year's standouts, and they were both early in the year. No others really came close (Tag was better than I expected, but nowhere near as good as the other two).


That's all I've got for now. Full rankings for all 70 movies here:

https://letterboxd.com/bucfever/list/films-ive-seen-in-2018-rankings/detail/

I don't attend the theatre often nor watch too many movies of the year (not on purpose) so my choice wouldn't fall under 2018 lol
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on March 11, 2019, 11:48:14 PM
*No spoilers in here, promise*

Captain Marvel
Brie Larson, Samuel L. Jackson, Jude Law, Ben Mendelsohn, Clark Gregg, Annette Bening

Not sure how I was able to see this movie about a female superhero as a male without being triggered...oh, thatís right: Iím not a fragile, easily triggered moron.

Anyway, now that Iíve got that out of the way...

Brie Larson was the perfect choice to take on this role, an origin story set in 1995. They didnít beat you over the head with it (the 90s references), which I liked. Seeing a Blockbuster Video again though did bring back some memories (former employee/assistant manager here). As nice as it was to get a look at how Captain Marvel came to be, it was also nice to get an introduction on how Nick Fury came to be as well. The cat is also awesome and I loved the name they gave it for the movie.

The story is pretty good but the pacing stumbles a little bit in parts. But overall itís a fun film that fits in the MCU, and sets up the final superhero before we get Endgame dropped on us next month.

4.25/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on March 12, 2019, 02:08:31 PM
I read a bit about something she said that upset people. What was it? The film wasn't for old guys or something similar?
I didn't think too much about these types of things except in the case of the female Ghostbusters.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on March 14, 2019, 02:23:03 PM


Sure everyone's seen it by now, but I love the new Endgame trailer. Looks like my boy Cap is going to get roughed up, but I trust them to do right by him.

I can't wait for this movie to come out. I might be off the Marvel train by then (I'll probably still go see Spider-Man, though, at least), but these last 10, 11 years now, have been such a thrill.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on March 14, 2019, 03:06:44 PM
There's going to b ANOTHER Spider Man?
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on March 14, 2019, 03:16:30 PM
There's going to b ANOTHER Spider Man?


Yeah. It's funny, because it comes out like, 3 months after Endgame, I think? So they've already had to start marketing, despite Spidey getting dusted at the end of Infinity War. So, not even trying to pretend like he's not coming back (there's still the CHANCE that Far From Home is a prequel, but, honestly, if he were to theoretically still be dead at the Endgame, then what would be the point?)

But it's not another reboot this time, just a sequel to Spiderman: Homecoming, the one that's actually in the MCU with Tom Holland. Looks good, I'm always game for more Jake Gyllenhaal (I thought I spelled that wrong until I looked it up).
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on March 14, 2019, 03:44:27 PM
ok, no spoilers because I don't read or watch anything MCU other than the movies, but they really died at the end of Infinity War?
Don't answer that....

Im really indifferent to Jake Gyllenhaal. I know he's a lot of peoples favorites but I just don't get it.
It's like Jamie Foxx. Never cared for him despite the plum roles he seemed to land
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on March 14, 2019, 04:23:24 PM
I feel like Gyllenhaal was kind of an ironic choice for awhile, especially after Donnie Darko, but I think it was around the time of Prisoners, Enemy (both of which I have not seen) and Nightcrawler (WHICH WAS AMAZING) that audiences started to accept him as better than average.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on March 14, 2019, 05:15:05 PM
I feel like Gyllenhaal was kind of an ironic choice for awhile, especially after Donnie Darko, but I think it was around the time of Prisoners, Enemy (both of which I have not seen) and Nightcrawler (WHICH WAS AMAZING) that audiences started to accept him as better than average.

but that's my thing; is he?
Just a pointless observation by me lol
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on March 14, 2019, 05:39:16 PM
He definitely was in Nightcrawler, and I've heard the same about the other two (even from kiddo, who is a harsh critic).
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on March 23, 2019, 08:28:00 PM
The Dirt

I wasn't doing anything and this popped up on Netflix so I thought id glance it at and see how Netflix portrays Motley Crue.
Turns out its an almost 2 hour VH1 like documentary. Characters break the fourth wall, ironically at times to tell you this part of the film was made up or a certain pivotal character was left out to move the story along.
This film touches on the main peaks and valleys of their run, and sometimes does give the casual viewer a pov not necessarily known by those that weren't around then or don't follow the band.
In the end, its kind of fun but I grew up with the Crue coming to life and all that jazz so its probably different for me. It would do little more than wet the appetite for the casual fan to know more because its not that in depth, as it can't be really, I mean, its a rock and roll career spanning decades.
And just an FYI, there's a bit in here about the controversy from their song Shout at the Devil and I can tell you, it was quite fun debating the meaning and lyrics with the supposed Christians back then during the uproar.

If you're a Crue fan then you've probably already read the book, if not, see the flick. If you're not a Crue fan but a rock n roll fan, see it if its raining outside.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on March 30, 2019, 05:26:40 PM
The Highwaymen
Kevin Costner and Woody Harelson

I've been sucked in by Netflix again, although this time is much better.

Costner and Harrelson portray legendary Texas Rangers Frank Hamer and Maney Gault who were already noteworthy prior to gunning down Clyde Barrow and Bonnie Parker.
I had forgotten this film was due out and knew little of it other than the subject matter, I tend to stay in the dark on films I wish to see, but after, I like to read what others thought and Ill get to that in a minute.
This is the other side of the story, the one of the media darlings, the modern day Robin Hood's that were Bonnie and Clyde.
The Highwaymen rears the popularity and adulation Bonnie and Clyde received only to stamp it out firmly and quickly. We view them through the eyes of the law and the eyes of the victims of these road warrior criminals.
You have to talk romantically about B & C when telling their story, because it was true, however, in the past, its always been at the expense of the law.
Creating heroes, which is what Mickey and Mallory Knox were satirically representing. Notably, Arthur Penn's classic, Bonnie and Clyde wit Faye Dunaway and Warren Beatty was at the forefront of retelling this story in the mainstream although I doubt many who see this film will even have a clue there was another Bonnie and Clyde film, much less one that cemented the public's fascination with the murderous couple.
Costner and Harrelson are marvelous together and I consistently find Woody to be a vastly underrated and overlooked actor. He simply nails every part he choose to take.
As for Costner, it always amazed me how he always, always, seems to land such plum roles. Never really a fan of his, sans Bull Durham early on, but I guess I just have to admit he's a good actor.
While we follow these two as they trail the other, more infamous duo, we learn of their history, who they are, the Texas Rangers and the moral reasons for their demise, initially. (It's interesting, read up on it; most resigned as an unseemly corrupt governor was elected)
Barrow and Parker are rarely seen, and even when we do, its from a distance, or, we get a good look at the elegant Bonnie Parker's shoes as she walks up to a fallen officer to finish the job at point blank range. This was, I thought, a terrific effort to not change the potential likability or characteristics of the two, but to tell their story essentially without them being a part of it, in a distracting manner if you will.
The cinematography is wonderful although the sprawling vista we see on screen may be overdoing it just a bit, but it works. I love the art direction, depicting an era accurately is always plus, and directing on the whole The pacing was good, despite a just over two hour run, and the story always interesting.
As with any biopic, some liberties are taken for dramatization, but not much here. Well, as much as I know anyway. Although the Texas Rangers and Bonnie and Clyde are huge interests of mine, sadly, I can't say I've read enough on them to be wholly familiar with everything depicted here.
In any event, see this film, I really liked it but I realize many don't. And about that....

As I noted earlier, afterwards, I read other reviews and it seems people are put off at the idea how this film is a counter argument to Arthur Penn's feature. Apparently everything in this film is to denounce everything stated in the Penn film. Not that it was a story in its own right that absolutely needed to be told, but that its a shot for shot counter argument to the 1967 story. A heavy handed shame on you, society, for porting Bonnie and Clyde as heroes, shame!
That's not what the film says at all, although there is that
Spoiler: show
scene at the end where Woody literally says, "shame on you." Yea, that could have been directed at the camera, but the context of the scene is him watching an entire town rush the car with the two dead icons in it in order to grab a lock of hair, or cut off a trigger finger, so yea, shame on you.


Is it a statement about our mores and social behavior like Penn's masterpiece? You tell me.
I can see by looking online Im low man here and that's fine, but I tell you it's a good film.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on March 31, 2019, 03:30:31 PM
Thanks, was looking forward to seeing this and your reviews typically fall along similar lines as mine. Might have to check this out on a day when some sportsball event or work isn't consuming my time.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on April 01, 2019, 11:56:44 AM
The Dirt

I wasn't doing anything and this popped up on Netflix so I thought id glance it at and see how Netflix portrays Motley Crue.
Turns out its an almost 2 hour VH1 like documentary. Characters break the fourth wall, ironically at times to tell you this part of the film was made up or a certain pivotal character was left out to move the story along.
This film touches on the main peaks and valleys of their run, and sometimes does give the casual viewer a pov not necessarily known by those that weren't around then or don't follow the band.
In the end, its kind of fun but I grew up with the Crue coming to life and all that jazz so its probably different for me. It would do little more than wet the appetite for the casual fan to know more because its not that in depth, as it can't be really, I mean, its a rock and roll career spanning decades.
And just an FYI, there's a bit in here about the controversy from their song Shout at the Devil and I can tell you, it was quite fun debating the meaning and lyrics with the supposed Christians back then during the uproar.

If you're a Crue fan then you've probably already read the book, if not, see the flick. If you're not a Crue fan but a rock n roll fan, see it if its raining outside.

Cool been looking forward to checking it out.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on April 03, 2019, 10:44:41 AM
https://io9.gizmodo.com/a-new-clown-prince-rises-in-the-first-teaser-for-joker-1833749728


On the one hand, I'll probably end up seeing it because I'm a sheep and I go to the comic book movies when they release. I even saw Venom (I REFUSE TO SEE MORBIUS UNLESS THE REVIEWS ARE SOMEHOW AMAZING WHICH THEY WON'T BE).

This whole project has sounded weird from the start, and the trailer certainly didn't convince me that it wasn't, but I still just don't understand why? I don't know, it certainly can be good, best thing it has going for it is Joaquin Phoenix as the Joker does seem like a perfect match.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on April 03, 2019, 04:56:32 PM
Thanks, was looking forward to seeing this and your reviews typically fall along similar lines as mine. Might have to check this out on a day when some sportsball event or work isn't consuming my time.

yea, you will have to remember to tell me what you think if you ever see it.



Cool been looking forward to checking it out.

It's an easy entertaining watch
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on April 03, 2019, 05:01:03 PM
https://io9.gizmodo.com/a-new-clown-prince-rises-in-the-first-teaser-for-joker-1833749728


On the one hand, I'll probably end up seeing it because I'm a sheep and I go to the comic book movies when they release. I even saw Venom (I REFUSE TO SEE MORBIUS UNLESS THE REVIEWS ARE SOMEHOW AMAZING WHICH THEY WON'T BE).

This whole project has sounded weird from the start, and the trailer certainly didn't convince me that it wasn't, but I still just don't understand why? I don't know, it certainly can be good, best thing it has going for it is Joaquin Phoenix as the Joker does seem like a perfect match.

I don't understand what your questioning? I didn't know much about it, but the trailer interested me and Im sure Ill see it, not at the movies, but Ill certainly take a look, unless it just gets Suicide Squad type reviews
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on April 03, 2019, 05:04:46 PM
I guess I don't get why we need a Joker movie, especially one covering an "origin," and I'm very curious as to what Todd Phillips does with this. It stands outside DC's cinematic universe, which, fine, I can accept that that it's a one-off movie, which is something we haven't seen much for superheroes these days outside of maybe Hellboy or Venom lately.

But Joker? Are we supposed to empathize with Joker that he becomes one of the leading kill-count villains because he was...bullied? Are we going to get a reason, or is he going to just snap one day (which has always been my own interpretation because, it's kind of the point of the Joker).

I don't know, I just....it's a weird concept, making a Joker movie, placing it either in the 70s or just doing a visual homage to Scorsese and that 70s time period, and I'm really curious to see what it ends up being because it seems like it might be unlike anything we've seen in the realm of comic book movies, or it could be an utter trainwreck.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on April 03, 2019, 05:09:54 PM
I guess I don't get why we need a Joker movie, especially one covering an "origin," and I'm very curious as to what Todd Phillips does with this. It stands outside DC's cinematic universe, which, fine, I can accept that that it's a one-off movie, which is something we haven't seen much for superheroes these days outside of maybe Hellboy or Venom lately.

But Joker? Are we supposed to empathize with Joker that he becomes one of the leading kill-count villains because he was...bullied? Are we going to get a reason, or is he going to just snap one day (which has always been my own interpretation because, it's kind of the point of the Joker).

I don't know, I just....it's a weird concept, making a Joker movie, placing it either in the 70s or just doing a visual homage to Scorsese and that 70s time period, and I'm really curious to see what it ends up being because it seems like it might be unlike anything we've seen in the realm of comic book movies, or it could be an utter trainwreck.

I can understand that, I just didn't delve into it that deeply, just taking on the film itself.
Secondly, that's what Im wondering as well.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on April 25, 2019, 05:27:55 PM
Behind the curve

Netflix doc about flat earthers and their savior, Mark Sargent, an able bodied middle aged man who lives with his mom.
The desired outcome probably wasn't humor, but this film just cracks me up, at least in the beginning.
This crew did a pretty good job of being objective for the most part, but, sometimes, it seems, they just couldn't help but to insert some logic, which obviously sailed straight over the heads of these guys.
Towards the end, it really becomes a sad commentary about these folks, at least to me. Don't get me wrong, it's still funny as hell, especially the last experiment, but it could have been flat earth, it could have been why pumpkins aren't really orange, it could have been the conspiracy against round popsicle sticks, literally anything as long as its something these conspiracy theorists can cling to in the warmth of each others company.
Flat earth just happened to be Sargent's vehicle of choice.
This guy, I mean you can almost see his orgasms on screen as he deifies himself to the film crew and his followers.
The gotcha moments are jaw dropping, literally, and his creepy, almost predatory like pursuit of Patricia Steere is a cringeworthy arc you probably don't want to see, but it's such a great flavor to this snow globe idea, you can't look away.
You must give this a look because the film itself is quite well done and as I said earlier, fair for the most part, they just let Sargent et al drone on, and they gladly oblige, giving us this intellectual look in to the society of flat earth.

Ok Im kidding, but they do peer in to the flat earth society.

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Rigg44 on April 30, 2019, 11:35:10 AM
It was very good.  The final experiment was priceless. Like all conspiracies or nutball ideas, no matter the evidence presented they will not budge from their beliefs.  To do so would mean having to redefine themselves.   
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on April 30, 2019, 11:39:29 AM
It was very good.  The final experiment was priceless. Like all conspiracies or nutball ideas, no matter the evidence presented they will not budge from their beliefs.  To do so would mean having to redefine themselves.

Thats why it's so sad. To me, its not about the earth being flat. It's so these socially awkward, lacking or anxious types can all be together because they have little or no healthy relationships. Cue Mark Sargent

That ending was absolutely top notch!
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Rigg44 on May 01, 2019, 11:08:20 AM
It was very good.  The final experiment was priceless. Like all conspiracies or nutball ideas, no matter the evidence presented they will not budge from their beliefs.  To do so would mean having to redefine themselves.

Thats why it's so sad. To me, its not about the earth being flat. It's so these socially awkward, lacking or anxious types can all be together because they have little or no healthy relationships. Cue Mark Sargent

That ending was absolutely top notch!

I agree completely.  I think you can place almost any conspiracy theory in that category.  At first it's just a guy with an idea but once it becomes a movement with a community around it, the evidence doesn't matter.  At that point its all about protecting their community from dissipating.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on May 01, 2019, 11:27:34 AM
It was very good.  The final experiment was priceless. Like all conspiracies or nutball ideas, no matter the evidence presented they will not budge from their beliefs.  To do so would mean having to redefine themselves.

Thats why it's so sad. To me, its not about the earth being flat. It's so these socially awkward, lacking or anxious types can all be together because they have little or no healthy relationships. Cue Mark Sargent

That ending was absolutely top notch!

I agree completely.  I think you can place almost any conspiracy theory in that category.  At first it's just a guy with an idea but once it becomes a movement with a community around it, the evidence doesn't matter.  At that point its all about protecting their community from dissipating.

One of the great lines was when Sargent said, "all the scientists do is throw math at us." lol
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Rigg44 on May 02, 2019, 11:02:47 AM
It was very good.  The final experiment was priceless. Like all conspiracies or nutball ideas, no matter the evidence presented they will not budge from their beliefs.  To do so would mean having to redefine themselves.

Thats why it's so sad. To me, its not about the earth being flat. It's so these socially awkward, lacking or anxious types can all be together because they have little or no healthy relationships. Cue Mark Sargent

That ending was absolutely top notch!

I agree completely.  I think you can place almost any conspiracy theory in that category.  At first it's just a guy with an idea but once it becomes a movement with a community around it, the evidence doesn't matter.  At that point its all about protecting their community from dissipating.

One of the great lines was when Sargent said, "all the scientists do is throw math at us." lol

That was good.  I also like the way his mother, to me at least, seems to be rolling her eyes internally.  She supports him because he is her son but I got the feeling she sees it for what it is.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on May 02, 2019, 11:44:06 AM
It was very good.  The final experiment was priceless. Like all conspiracies or nutball ideas, no matter the evidence presented they will not budge from their beliefs.  To do so would mean having to redefine themselves.

Thats why it's so sad. To me, its not about the earth being flat. It's so these socially awkward, lacking or anxious types can all be together because they have little or no healthy relationships. Cue Mark Sargent

That ending was absolutely top notch!

I agree completely.  I think you can place almost any conspiracy theory in that category.  At first it's just a guy with an idea but once it becomes a movement with a community around it, the evidence doesn't matter.  At that point its all about protecting their community from dissipating.

One of the great lines was when Sargent said, "all the scientists do is throw math at us." lol

That was good.  I also like the way his mother, to me at least, seems to be rolling her eyes internally.  She supports him because he is her son but I got the feeling she sees it for what it is.

a son only a mother could love...and a flat earther lol
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on June 23, 2019, 08:27:38 PM
A Star is Born (2018)
Bradley Cooper / Lady Gaga

First things first, this is not a comparison to any of the three previous A Star is Born films.
Cooper plays country rocker Jackson Maine who is an alcoholic and pill popper who is on the downside of his career.
After a concert, he begs off the itinerary to go to the nearest local bar. What he finds are cross dressers performing at a local dive where Ally (Gaga) exhibits her talents on the small stage. Jackson seems instantly tuned in to who she is or wants to be and latches on to her immediately.
Then we have a contrived scene or two to get us to where we can witness the evolution of this relationship.
This is an emotionally driven, powerful story done right by Cooper in his directorial debut. Lady Gaga plays Ally, whom I really have no opinion of one way or the other. In fact, the only two things I know of her are the meat dress and the Super Bowl halftime show.
Turns out she was a wise choice here, emitting such raw visceral passion on screen is something to see in this film and Cooper stays right with her in telling their story.
At just over 2 hours, it might seem long, and I am usually a bit wary of such a long run time, but it was paced pretty well throughout, always providing new information, moving forward with the story.
Sam Elliott, who I think knocks it out of the park no matter what he does, plays Maine's older brother. That in itself was one issue I had albeit minor, who would believe those two aged so far apart could be brothers? Nonetheless, it doesn't interfere with the story or direction butis just another layer to this deeply themed film.
One issue I do have is that during the first act, there's really no clue as to the passage of time and I found my self lost somewhat, trying to figure out where exactly were we in the timeline of this relationship.
A few other glitches here or there do not negate any part of this film that examines these characters on such a deeply emotional level.
The music industry is not really examined here although it is a huge part of the story and should not be overlooked as it is an important tentacle in the narrative we see unfolding before us.
The music is good, but its not even close to a musical film so that shouldn't weigh negatively if you are thinking it might be a deterrent for you.
The cinematography is splendid and Coopers directing along with the actors tuned in (silly pun) so tightly to this story projects a terrific experience on screen.

And a few tidbits if you didn't know. Cooper trained for over a year on guitar and vocal lessons for this movie. While the singing was his though, the guitar playing was not. That would be Lukas Nelson, Willie's son, a gifted musician as you might well imagine.
I read an article where he said he gave Bradley Cooper a five to six rating on his guitar skills to which Cooper responded with, he's being too generous.
it comes off believable though as do the concerts, which one, incidentally, was filmed during one of Willie Nelson's shows. And here's some irony for you, it was right before Kris Kristofferson performed and he was of course, in the last A Star is Born with Barbara Streisand.

So, yes, Id recommend this movie, for sure.
I really enjoyed the statements this film made on all levels and was truly captivated by the message.
Understandably, its not everyones cup of tea, and many dislike it for spite simply because it was well received.

4.25 / 5


Spoiler: show
Chris Cornell came immediately to mind when I was watching the nd of this film. I wonder, if on any level, minimal as it might be, if that was in any way in Cooper's mind when co writing and directing this movie?

Other points:
I read one reviewer rail on the fact about the nose thing. About how Cooper was saying to Gaga, I want the whole billboard (of Ally) to be your nose.
If you're reading this, you know the nose was one of her self conscious concerns after being told over and over she wasn't pretty enough to make it
And this guy was just over the top about it. Her nose? How stupid!
Well, one, it only recurred a couple of times, and it was romantic banter, because thats what couples do you moron. Two, he told her from the beginning she was beautiful, talented and to be who you are, which is in fact the entire point of the fucking film, you dolt.

I was really moved by the debut of Shallow in the film when Ally rushed on stage capturing her moment. Atacking her fears head on. I think only a musician would have been able to pull that off, not just an actress.

The death of Jackson was quite tragic as well. His depression, alcoholism and drug use bettered him anyway, even though he came out recovery seemingly knowing what he had and intended to hold on to it. The Rez character, representing the music industry is what destroys them both. It's very sad and its very real, unflinching and unapologetic.
That long closeup of Jackson in the garage, waiting to close the door as he's deliberating was impeccably timed and Cooper poured his soul in to that shot. Amazing sequence.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on June 30, 2019, 03:56:59 PM
Captain Marvel
Brie Larson

I decided to keep up with the new stuff since my run on Marvel flicks a while back to catch up.
This will be brief. I liked it, but it was over the top and campy in spots. I guess it has to be though since its a comic book.
Larson seems somewhat athletic and is able to pull off the move set required for the most part, although catching her running from behind is not the most super hero esque. I noticed a few wire gags that didn't translate well, though not her fault, mostly direction.
She is leaps and bounds better than Scarlet Johansson who I cannot take seriously on any level as a super hero.

3.5/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on June 30, 2019, 05:47:06 PM
She is leaps and bounds better than Scarlet Johansson who I cannot take seriously on any level as a super hero.

Technically speaking, Black Widow is a master spy, not a super hero. :P
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on June 30, 2019, 07:40:04 PM
She is leaps and bounds better than Scarlet Johansson who I cannot take seriously on any level as a super hero.

Technically speaking, Black Widow is a master spy, not a super hero. :P

A spy can't be a super hero? Do the Avengers know about this?   ;)
Banter notwithstanding, Black Widow is terrible in action scenes, super hero or not, IMO anyway
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on July 11, 2019, 09:59:21 PM
Haven't done reviews in awhile, so I figure I'll just post these here since this seems to be the more active of the movie threads of late...

Avengers: Endgame
You know the f'ing actors already
Absolutely f'ing loved it. Was a fun and emotional roller coaster ride of a movie and the performances were great. Seen it three times and I still tend to get the feels in the same spots. Might even try to see it one more time in the hopes that it can break Avatar's box office record, because let's face it: for all the good stuff James Cameron has done, Avatar flat out sucked. There, I said it. 5/5


Always Be My Maybe
Randall Park, Ali Wong
Great little rom/com, and it's nice to see Randall Park get some notice-dude deserves some long overdue love. Also partial to films that attempt to break stereotypes, and this one does. Keanu Reeves also has the cameo of the year (so far). 4.5/5


Spider-Man: Far From Home
Tom Holland, Jake Gyllenhaal, Zendaya, Samuel L. Jackson, Jacob Batalon, Jon Favreau, Marisa Tomei

IMO this really was the movie that needed to happen after the events of Endgame and is a great cap on Phase 3 of the MCU. Explains some of the events and the aftermath, and is also a bit more lighthearted in tone. Tom Holland solidifies his spot as the best Spider-Man, and Jake Gyllenhaal is awesome too. Some great twists as well, and sets up quite nicely not just for the next Spidey film but also for Phase 4. 4.75/5


Yesterday
Himesh Patel, Lily James, Ed Sheeran, Kate McKinnon

First time I saw the trailer for this a few months ago I was hooked on the premise: the world wakes up one day not knowing the Beatles ever existed...except for one guy. In the hands of the guy that directed Slumdog Millionaire and 28 Days Later (Danny Boyle) and written by the guy that wrote Love, Actually and Four Weddings and a Funeral (Richard Curtis), this movie is really quite good and the story moves along pretty well. Part rom/com, part tribute to the greatness of the Beatles. Really enjoyed this one and I've even been jamming the Beatles as I write this post. Worth checking out. 4.25 out of 5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on July 12, 2019, 12:37:46 AM
huh. 2 of these were on my list. I may have just added 2 more
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on July 12, 2019, 12:16:49 PM

Always Be My Maybe
Randall Park, Ali Wong


Spider-Man: Far From Home
Tom Holland, Jake Gyllenhaal, Zendaya, Samuel L. Jackson, Jacob Batalon, Jon Favreau, Marisa Tomei


Yesterday
Himesh Patel, Lily James, Ed Sheeran, Kate McKinnon



https://letterboxd.com/bucfever/ - gonna pimp this again, haha. Ratings, a best of the year list, and my quick "Is It Worth It? Yes or No" review style.


As far as these guys go, I'm mostly in agreement (although I've been less merciful this year in my star ratings vs last year when I was handing out 5 stars like candy).

I thought Spider-Man Far From Home was really good, but a bit overstuffed. The Spider-Man stuff all worked, and the scene with him and Happy towards the end was the best "reminiscing about Stark" moment of the movie, for sure, but a lot of the other matters were a bit cluttered. Still, typical Marvel, a really fun and entertaining movie and worth seeing. Plus, wow, way to absolutely nail the character of Mysterio on their first try.




Naturally, growing up, I never enjoyed rom-coms because I was a boy and rom-coms were icky and fatuous. Nowadays, I appreciate the rom-com. I enjoy the somewhat lower stakes and the airy, breezy plots they tend to contain. But, as most people may have noticed, the days of My Best Friend's Wedding and Notting Hill are long gone from theaters.

Fortunately, there's Netflix.

Netflix has been doing great work in the rom-com area, and I agree, Always Be My Maybe was an absolute hit. Some third act issues, but Randall Park and Ali Wong are exceptional and of course that Keanu cameo was fantastic.


Yesterday I liked for the same reason, although I had advanced warning. When I heard Danny Boyle, the guy who did Trainspotting, who did 127 Hours, who did 28 Days Later, who did Sunshine, was doing a movie about the Beatles vanishing and one guy remembering, I didn't know what to expect but I thought it was going to be something profound and powerful a true commentary on art and culture.

Instead, we got a romantic comedy. It does touch somewhat on the cultural impact and importance of the Beatles, but nowhere near as much as I was hoping for.

That being said, this is why expectations are the death of positive reviews, and fortunately my expectations were lowered due to reading the Twitter reviews. As a rom-com, the movie works. Himesh Patel is fantastic, Ed Sheeran is....funny, I guess? But it's a good enough story and obviously any fan of the Beatles will love it.


There has been a LOT of discussing via the internet about the movie missing the point of The Beatles, and the context and timing of their releases alongside the whole world (Ob La Di, Ob La Da was used specifically as an example of a popular song that basically only exists because by that time the Beatles were THE BEATLES and could do no wrong). Also, there's a scene at the end that some people find to be in truly poor taste, although, while I understand their arguments, I simply disagree with their statement as a matter of opinion.

That being said, as per my review, it's worth seeing, especially if you enjoy the Beatles. There's one scene towards the middle involving a yellow submarine that literally had me break out in the biggest smile of the movie, I felt the joy and relief Himesh Patel's character was experiencing in that moment because the same thing that was dogging him had been dogging me the whole movie. Really enjoyable.




And this is why I should never talk movies, because I get going and I just don't stop, haha.



Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on July 12, 2019, 03:58:19 PM
I could talk movies all day long :D
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on July 12, 2019, 05:53:05 PM
Bit the bullet and created a Letterboxd account as well...I'll work on it later lol.

Yeah, I'm typically pretty generous with my ratings but whatever...they're mine haha. Odds are if I enjoyed it on some level it's at least gonna get a 3.5 from me, and I'm pretty sure my scores here have landed mostly in the 4-5 star range.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on July 12, 2019, 06:05:57 PM
Bit the bullet and created a Letterboxd account as well...I'll work on it later lol.


You'll have to give me your username once you do!

Hey, as long as we're all here:


Midsommar

Saw this the day before Spider-Man with kiddo (who is 13 now! if I have to feel this old, so do you!) I'm one of the rare people who didn't like Hereditary. Don't get me wrong, Hereditary wasn't bad, but I bought into ALL of the hype about how terrifying it was, and I feel like it did not deliver in that regard for me. Was a good family drama and had some interesting ideas, but it completely lost its way in the third act, plus, the plot was basically the exact same as Paranormal Activity 3, which made it predictable to me (bad on Ari Aster's part, or the sacrifice of seeing many movies? I blame myself.)


Anyways, with Midsommar I lowered my expectations and simply hoped for an enjoyable movie. For 2/3s of the movie, it delivered on that. A lot has been written about Aster's usage of shocking, gory and violent imagery in Hereditary, and the trend certainly continues with Midsommar. It does also help knowing that he wrote the movie after a breakup, which clearly influenced a lot of the plot lines throughout the film.

That being said, something that happened with Hereditary happens here. Aster sets up his 4 Americans and one Swede friend, establishes their basic foundations (basically, all friends of the dude Christian, plus his girlfriend), and sends them onto Sweden to participate in the Midsommar festival.

Christian and one of the other characters decide they both want to do their college thesis on the midsommar festival, although for Christian it's more opportunistic and for his friend it's actually because of his passion for anthropology. It's through this lens of the studying of other cultures that are unfamiliar from our own that the movie really starts to ask its questions about family, traditions, and modern values vs past values. There are horrifying things we see that the Swedish folk are completely numb to or, even, celebrate instead of being horrified. It could all be very interesting if Aster had any desire to actually say anything about it.

Instead, we end up focusing primarily on Christian and his girlfriend Dani. Florence Pugh does give a great performance, but as far as the characters go, they're never fully developed. They're broad strokes, Christian's sort of the unambitious slacker and inconsiderate of others, Dani's the girl who takes the world on her shoulders and clings to others after losing her family merely weeks ago (something covered at the very start of the movie).

It's a neat prism, contrasting her need for people to the way that Christian uses those around him, and it does set up the main conflict throughout the film, but the rest of the plot gets in the way. The side characters are dealt with in their own ways, but it feels almost obligatory, and the way they are simply never mentioned again is kind of...lazy? Once again third act issues plague the movie, as Hereditary decided to make a mad dash to the end of the film, Midsommar suffers from the same rush. After taking its time at a leisurely pace, everything picks up and your eyes are flooded with happenings stuffed into too short of time to fully even recognize what's happening.

Now, again, kiddo and I are in the minority when it comes to our opinions on Hereditary, and we seem to be the same here with Midsommar. Aster's got talent, he has skills, but he's still too gimmicky and unpolished. Those traits will carry him for a while, but, you only need to look at M. Night Shyamalan to see just how far gimmicks can get you when the story doesn't hold up.



Now watch me change my mind the first time someone writes a deep dive article on this movie and points out every little thing I missed.


3.5/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on July 12, 2019, 06:10:12 PM
TheNorm41!

Like I said, might be a bit before I get around to adding stuff to it, but I will. :)
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on July 15, 2019, 11:40:23 AM
Spiderman: In to the Spiderverse

I realize everyone gushes about this flick. I liked it. I was entertained. I wasn't mesmerized nor excited by it.
The story is well written and the dialogue is wonderful, it just seemed to drag a bit to me and became sluggish somewhat.
The animation was quite good too but I never felt I completely grasped what was happening and maybe that led to my likening it less.
In any event, good flick, not great.

3.5 /5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on July 15, 2019, 06:21:26 PM
Two this weekend


Stuber

Kiddos' choice, not mine, and yet, I kind of liked it? Don't come for the plot, there isn't much of one to speak of (but, may as well: Dave Bautista plays tough guy cop tracking down criminal who he has a personal history with, but he also just got Lasik and can't see very well so he needs an Uber to drive him around. And Kumail Nanjiani is the driver. That's as far as the story goes, really).

The true meat of the story is their different approaches: Bautista, being a very large and authoritative figure, is the screamy, shouty, punchy part of the duo, whereas Kumail is more the shrimpy, "woke" buddy.

The movie's a little weird, for as much as Kumail tries to soften Bautista's edges, a lot of times he just acts like a complete dick. However, to a certain extent, I think the movie does make a good point. This isn't the standard buddy-duo movie where they each have "their own way," and it turns out they can do their own thing and still be successful.

Kumail's character learns things from Bautista's. He becomes more assertive over the course of the film, and learns how to be aggressive in the right situation and in defense of himself, whether it be a physical defense or a more personal defense.

Bautista's change is more subtle, and, I may venture into some spoilers here, but throughout the movie Kumail's character is trying to break through the tough exterior of Bautista. Bautista had a cop partner die, is fairly estranged from his daughter, and just comes off as pretty much an asshole while Kumail tries to show him a better way (the "torture" scene is honestly an amazing example of this).

So, what I really liked is something that may go overlooked. I've noted how we see Kumail's character change, however as this is an action comedy for the most part Bautista stays pretty shouty, shooty and punchy. But, there's a scene where they go to a drug dealer's house, and the dealer has attempted to hide his drugs by force feeding them to his dog, which sends Bautista into a rage.

(Here comes the slightly spoilery part):

Now, mind you, outside of his dead partner, this is the most emotion and empathy we've seen Bautista give to anything. After they leave the house, he takes the dog with them, and by the end of the film still has the dog although, as time has passed, the dog is now wearing the vest of a certified and trained emotional support animal.

We've always seen movies that show soldiers, cops, and all other manner of authority figures get put through the ringer to come out triumphant on the other end and go back to life as if nothing ever happened (or, at the very least, "live happily ever after.")

This small, small acknowledgement that Bautista's character has A) taken Kumail's advice to allow himself to be more emotionally open, B) accepted help (it's a stretch, but I think it's safe to say he's likely in therapy as well if he's already taken this step). There's a great scene where Nanjiani tells him "it's not weak to ask for help," and here we have Bautista, having found a companion in this dog, accepting him as help and as something he'd rather not live without, even if people may view him as weak for needing it. I loved it, I wish it had called some more attention to it but it's such a great, minor little detail that tells us so much about how Bautista's character has progressed and accepted these new views to become a more complete person. Very cool.


3.5/5



Crawl


It was a movie about alligators attacking people during a hurricane. Did you see the trailer? Did it interest you? Go see it, you'll like it for what it is. Did you see the trailer and say "that looks stupid"? Don't go see it, the movie will not change your mind.

I saw the trailer and said "I want to see that."

3/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on July 15, 2019, 06:34:10 PM
Saw toy story 4. I actually liked it. Had a happy ending that you did not expect.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on July 15, 2019, 07:13:15 PM
Saw toy story 4. I actually liked it. Had a happy ending that you did not expect.

Right?! Like, I didn't expect to hate it, it's Toy Story, it's Pixar, but I was still afraid it would feel inessential or just like a cash grab, but nope, still found myself crying again.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on July 29, 2019, 10:47:00 AM
Once Upon A Time...In Hollywood

What the title suggests it is: A fairy tale, set in Hollywood, at the time of the Manson family. The story here is less of a story than it is a meditation on innocence, fun, and the ever looming specter of irrelevance and the passing of time. A true hang-out movie, which is all I wanted it to be, so it hit the mark for me.

4/5 stars



The Farewell

Speaking of hangout movies, here's one that makes you a member of the family. We're always "in the room," so to speak, for any movie we watch, we're in the room to see Ethan Hunt be brief or Batman fight the Joker. But maybe it's because of the fact that The Farewell is based on a true story, or that it's a very intimate family drama ruminating on death, our responses to it, and how our culture and upbringing are reflected in our responses.

Watching this family deal with the event in question, and how each responds to it in their own way, while sitting at dinners with the entire family or seated during the large wedding finale, even though the culture and the history reflected here is none of my own, the cinematography, the direction, and the absolutely incredible cast make you feel like you're there, like everything that is happening concerns YOU too. It doesn't hurt that the little old grandma is the most adorable lady ever and I want her to adopt me as her grandchild.

5/5 stars
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on July 29, 2019, 06:30:37 PM
Definitely curious about The Farewell, that trailer looked amazing.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on July 29, 2019, 08:06:01 PM
Definitely curious about The Farewell, that trailer looked amazing.

Loved it. Loved every second of it. I guarantee you will not be disappointed.

It's only in 3 theaters here, and all in the city, naturally. It'll be tough to catch, but worth it.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: rollntider on July 29, 2019, 10:36:24 PM
Saw spider man far from home.... its good, comic nerds may not like it. I am a spidey fan so of course it doesnt follow the comics per se, but it is a good pop corn flick as they say.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on September 08, 2019, 03:05:46 PM
Creed II
Michael B. Jordan, Stallone


The return of Ivan Drago with Florian Munteanu playing his son, Viktor.
First things first, you know in Rocky movies there apparently are no weight classes, so throw that out of your mind right away if you haven't already.

Ivan has been eating this defeat for 30 years and he wants his revenge. However, it does become more than just that. His defeat at the hands of Balboa is of course the catalyst here, but its not the root problem.
Creed, meanwhile, is held up to the usual scrutiny you would expect of a legacy. He still looks to Rocky for guidance and support.
Stallone's Rocky is such a terrific character and its great to see basically his entire life play out across these films. From the first film until now, you see a consistent arc, although we do not acknowledge V, of his character, and in the Creed series, he doesn't overshadow the story. He just rides along in a sidecar, as does Apollo for that matter.
Its a fantastic story, spanning decades and families and the Drago's are an important exclamation point to that arc.
The story does have its normal tropes but it overcomes and is a solid celebration of the series.

4/5

I, Tonya
Margot Robbie,  Allison Janney

I really didn't know what to expect here but I wanted to see it because I recall this event like it was yesterday.
Robbie plays Tonya and they obviously have to downplay her natural beauty quite a bit, no disrespect to Tonya but facts are facts.
Janney plays Tonya's mom, LaVona.
The film opens with a declaration that its a result of ironic, conflicting interviews and other evidence of Harding and Gillooly. I wish I could remember it verbatim, but basically it says both are full of shit.
That tells you right off the filmmakers aren't trying to give you a one sided story, although they kinda have to really, I mean how else can you make a film?
We then see a present day aged Tonya and Jeff in separate locations telling the viewer what they are seeing is true/not true, their intentions and the like, almost mockumentary style. Actors are breaking the fourth wall as we move through the movie as well.
Tonya is painted as a redneck trailer park talent who only has her mother, Janney, who is as mean and projecting as you could possibly imagine. It makes you wonder why such a character would spend so much time and money helping her daughter to succeed.
Gillooly is just what you'd expect, a pretty worthless hothead, socially awkward around women. it's hinted he has redeeming values but we don't see them.
Eckhardt, the friend and so called bodyguard is indeed worthless. A cartoonish wannabe living in his mom's basement all the while being a world renown authority on terrorism LOL. He really said this, over and over. Talk about delusional.
Tonya comes off like a victim, not really knowing until after the fact, then didn't say anything until pressed by the Feds, and that's pretty much how it went down in real life. All the while though there's this little wink to the viewer, maybe, maybe not.
This film is an entertaining look at true events that really were quite shocking, and still are if you think about it. I mean, taking out a Gold medalist contender, not to mention teammate, and friend (if you believe Tonya)
All within view of skaters practicing on ice, officials roaming the halls, security and the like. Pretty mind blowing.
I find it interesting that Robbie didn't even realize this was a true story until she reached the end of the script.
Digression forthcoming....I guess its a sign of the times, but as I grew up, I still knew all about what transpired the years surrounding my birth and before, the generation before me, but apparently thats just not even fathomable since the 90's anymore. Im still amazed about events millennials aren't aware of, but like I say, different times I guess.

In any event, I thought it was an entertaining flick and it really walked a tightrope as to who knew and planned what when, because honestly, with all these goobers, I dont think we will ever truly know who set up what and when.
This film might mean more to me because I remember it, so take that in to consideration if you know nothing about the incident or the players.

3.75/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 14, 2019, 10:31:23 AM
El Camino
Aaron Paul

We pick up with Jesse right after the conclusion of the series with him screaming out of the Klan camp.
I was worried this would be a fan service film and it is, sort of, but its also a story that needed to be told since Jesse's world left us with a ton of questions about his immediate future.
We are given context through flashbacks to set up scenes and situations which mostly seem based on revenge, but are designed as necessary in order to accomplish his escape.
Some instances seem a bit far fetched for the Pinkman character but at the same time, I as the viewer, can accept his actions when you consider his long term arc.
After its all said and done, it really was a well executed film that told a much needed story. I would characterize it as being right in line with the BB series. Not a home run but certainly extra bases.

3.75/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 14, 2019, 08:40:29 PM
Joker
Joaquin Phoenix

I tend to avoid trailers and reviews of films I want to see because I don't want to walk in with tainted opinions.
Joker was one of those films.
After sitting through the 2hr 2 minute origin story I can tell you simply that you should go see it.
Phoenix was truly interesting to watch in this movie. Depending on who you listen to, it can be quite a derivative film
Spoiler: show
ala Taxi Driver
or it can be its own work of art about one of the most mysterious characters in the DC universe.
I will refrain from saying too much about it other than its content represents society as we are to a degree, if not in action, certainly in spirit.
This is just my opinion, but after I saw this film, I began reading the good and bad reviews and in my mind, the naysayers just missed the mark, completely, not even grasping the character, much less the message. Now I know, snot nosed critics look down on audience reviews because really, what could we possibly know about film making, right? But here, Im just flat out telling you, they are wrong.
Go see this film, come back and tell me if Im full of shit.

Well, about this, anyway.

4.25/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 21, 2019, 03:32:22 PM
Fighting With My Family
Florence Pugh
Vince Vaughn


This film is the true story of WWE superstar Paige.
She really does have an interesting story to tell but unfortunately the film fails her.
The Rock produced it and of course has a few self serving scenes, but always entertaining.
As with any true story, timelines have to be compressed and composite characters are created but the thrust of the story stays true.
Essentially, the movie tells you that Paige grew up in England with her family running a local wrestling circuit in which her and her brother Zak were being groomed to be WWE wrestlers.
We see Paige as an outsider, trying to fit in most of her life and she has that same chip on her shoulder when arriving to NXT.
There's a small bit of action and dialogue for smarks here but not much.
The film pretty much glosses over her time in NXT, treating her as an unknown, which she certainly was not.
Rock tells her she will appear on RAW the night after Wrestlemania and battle AJ Lee for the title, and win.
I wondered if that was actually true, turns out, it was. Go figure.
Then we jump to said Monday night.
The intro, the dialogue, interaction an the match were totally reconstructed to make Paige again seem unsure of herself and also as an unknown being lightly jeered or taunted by the fanbase.
This is all well and good but its nothing like what really transpired, and what really happened was far far more entertaining than what we see on screen.
I would watch the documentary the Rock saw which is what gave him the idea for this movie; The Wrestlers: Fighting With My Family and just avoid this one altogether. I mean, if you're a casual or nonexistent fan then yea, its an entertaining flick.

3/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 27, 2019, 08:25:48 PM
So Im rewatching all the Star Wars movies, sans Solo, to prep for Mandalorian and IX. It will be interesting to see if my rankings stay the same.
After I knocked out the prequels this weekend, here's some brief thoughts.

I TPM
This was the most anticipated film and justifiably so, however, I think most everyone will agree it was a colossal bust.
And no not because of Jar Jar but because the directing and dialogue were absolutely terrible. Add to the fact that Lloyd was nowhere near the actor they needed, as a matter of fact, I think that's one of the biggest failings of the prequels.
Lucas went batshit with the CGI and couldn't direct Portman and Christensen in that world, and add to it, they had zero chemistry. Neeson and McGregor was the saving grace. The pod race helped, but the duel of the fates saved this film from complete failure.

II AotC
We were holding out hope for this one, and it was actually better. Dialogue began to present Skywalker's conflicting thoughts and the story held interest until late in act II and III. The romance was dull, uninteresting and the actors appeared to not even be in the same studio, much less the same galaxy. Still, much better than TPM despite Lucas' directing skills still not on par

III RotS
This was the big one, Anakin's turn and the death of Padme, we all knew it was coming, but how would it be executed.
For all the flak Lucas received and deservedly so, for I and II, he recovered nicely for Revenge of the Sith.
Christenson seemed to be able to handle Darth Vader better than he could the young padawan and the duel between student and master was well done.
Padme's demise, dying of a broken heart....I mean, what else could Lucas do here, I guess, except have Vadeer accidentally kill her for real.


Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on October 27, 2019, 08:35:23 PM
I'm curious what you'd say if told that the general consensus amongst the "fandom" is AotC being the worst SW film overall? I think Duel of the Fates + the Maul-Kenobi-Jin lightsaber battle redeemed TPM over time.

I haven't watched either in a while so I couldn't even begin to tackle it.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 27, 2019, 08:50:01 PM
I'm curious what you'd say if told that the general consensus amongst the "fandom" is AotC being the worst SW film overall? I think Duel of the Fates + the Maul-Kenobi-Jin lightsaber battle redeemed TPM over time.

I haven't watched either in a while so I couldn't even begin to tackle it.

I would offer that its because of the love interest scenes which were beyond painful. Add to that the non existing chemistry between the two and yea, it sucked for sure.
But to me, it was a better designed world, the dialogue began to gain some depth in needed plot arc scenes and was able to develop and maintain interest more efficiently than TPM.

I did agree with the bold.

Modified to add that while better than TPM, Im not suggesting it was by a landslide ;-)

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on October 27, 2019, 09:19:41 PM
I don't think I've watched any of those in a very long time so my memories are vague, but those memories aren't good for the most part lol. I'd agree that TPM was rescued by Duel and Maul/Kenobi/Jinn. The love interest scenes in AotC pretty much ruined the second for me, and there just wasn't enough in the plot development arc to keep me interested. RotS was the best of the three, but even then that's not saying much because it's still worse than anything that's dropped since. The action scenes carried the movie.

As grateful as I am to George Lucas for this universe...his three prequels were just poorly executed IMO and might've done better in more capable hands.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 27, 2019, 09:29:08 PM
I don't think I've watched any of those in a very long time so my memories are vague, but those memories aren't good for the most part lol. I'd agree that TPM was rescued by Duel and Maul/Kenobi/Jinn. The love interest scenes in AotC pretty much ruined the second for me, and there just wasn't enough in the plot development arc to keep me interested. RotS was the best of the three, but even then that's not saying much because it's still worse than anything that's dropped since. The action scenes carried the movie.

As grateful as I am to George Lucas for this universe...his three prequels were just poorly executed IMO and might've done better in more capable hands.

I remember having discussions back then after TPM about someone else taking the reins. Always a great what if...
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on October 30, 2019, 02:44:34 PM
Saw two films this weekend, and also one older film for the first time in my life.

That film was 10 Things I Hate About You. It was good! Did you know it was filmed in Seattle? I didn't! Now I know.


Anyways.

The Lighthouse - I am a sucker for A24 films, and I saw Robert Eggers' previous directorial effort, The VVitch. I liked this film more than that one, which could be slowly paced at times. This film, at a mere 90 minutes, breezes by and there really isn't a slow point, despite there being only two actors: Willem Dafoe and Robert Pattinson.

Recreating a small island home to a lighthouse and nothing more, in the 1820s, is an incredible task. Filming it in black and white is a bold choice. Using lenses from the 1820s* is....even more bold, and the aspect ratio did take some getting used to. But the opening shot, of a ship emerging from cloudy waters, immediately transported me back to vintage film, and I knew I was in for an experience. Highly recommend. Just an all-out class on filmmaking.



The second movie I saw won the Palme D'Or recently.

Parasite- Now, there has been a lot of praise for Parasite, and I do NOT disagree. It is an exceptional film, and after Roma's run last year, I could very much see this being considered for an Oscar. But, of course, it's been labelled with the dreaded "horror" tag (While Bong Joon-Ho is known as a horror auteur, I don't know that it applies here. There are horror elements, but if elements add up to horror then Eighth Grade is also a horror film), so that may hurt its Oscar chances, but it's story and its characters are timely and real.

A young man, Ki-Woo, and his family live in basically a basement apartment: Him, his sister, and their parents. When Ki-Woo's friend, Min, offers him the chance to replace him as tutor to a rich girl while Min studies abroad, Ki-Woo leaps at the chance despite not having a college degree. Min tells him not to worry, as the mom is very simple, and Ki-Woo creates a forgery of his diploma.

Once employed and making money, Ki-Woo starts to scheme, as the family is very rich. He gets his sister a job when the family's younger son, Da Song, needs an art tutor, despite the sister also not having a degree (but she is very art talented). Soon Ki-Woo is scheming to have his mom and dad replace the driver and the housekeeper. But, once his plan appears to have succeeded, is when things start to really kick into gear.

Parasite is two films. One is about a family in poverty using underhanded methods to increase their lot in life. They're con artists, but they're not actively hurting the family, which is how they justify what they're doing, despite having to replace two of the family's employees.

Meanwhile, the rich Park family is played for laughs at times, but never malice. The only malicious statement that is made concerns the smell of Kim Ki-taek, the father of the poor family who takes over as driver. It's such a straightforward, immensely personal slight, and works so well to set the audience (us) into a rage.

It's an interesting movie that makes you question your sympathy, until a third act twist that blows everything up. Suffice to say, this is as much about the violence and malice of the 1% as it is the impoverished taking a "crabs in a barrel" approach to life.


I think The Lighthouse is my second favorite film of the year (with all my hang-ups regarding death, the light-hearted "The Farewell" will be hard to take down as my #1), and I put Parasite as #3. Was a really great weekend for film for me, and further confirms my new "avoid most franchises" mandate (I think I'm superhero'd out, I'm good on the new Terminator, thanks and as for Star Wars...well, no, Star Wars I'll be seeing).

Shameless self promotion, not that I make any money off of my Letterboxd, but I always post a quick "is it worth it" review and add it to my rankings for that year after I see a new film:

https://letterboxd.com/bucfever/list/2019-films-ive-watched-ranking/



*I was way off on the lens details. From IMDB:

Since the film is set in 1890, it was shot on 35mm black and white Double-X 5222 film, all while augmenting the Panavision Millennium XL2 camera with vintage Baltar lenses from as early as 1918 to as late as 1938. This makes the aspect ratio approximately 1.19:1, which is practically square. To enhance the image and make it resemble early photography, a custom cyan filter made by Schneider Filters emulated the look and feel of orthochromatic film from the late 19th century.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on November 26, 2019, 09:56:58 PM
So, With Rise of Skywalker on the horizon, I re watched all 8...oh wait, make that 10 SW films in order.

Here's a brief re evaluation and re ranking.

1. TPM
The origin story of Anakin, all told, not terrible. Jake Lloyd was way out of his element and not believable. On the other hand, Liam Neeson and Ewan McGregor were much better but still couldn't save this film. The pod race and duel of fates kept this from the crapper. Despite the "high ground" thing

2. AotC
The problem with Lucas going almost completely digital is that he was dealing with actors that could not act within a green screen world.
HC did all he could with the role, but I felt like h just wasn't mature enough yet, oddly enough, just like his character.
I really did enjoy seeing Yoda get his game on, I thought that was well done. However, Count Dooku was quite miscast IMO. And why did Obi Wan have to look like such a pansy in that fight?

3. RotS
I liked this one best of the three as I think most did. I felt like HC grew in to the role and handled this much better. The death of Padme was weak and felt rushed. I think they could have expanded the timeline a bit and have her die of complications a few days, weeks later before shipping Luke and Leia off.
The intro of Vader was what we all wanted to see and I thought it was well done.

4. RO
I really like this film. When it was first announced, I was against it because thats when we discovered there would b a flurry of SW films and I was worried about over saturation, which is what happened, I think anyway. See Marvel.
However, this, unlike Solo, was a film we needed to see because it was such a vital element to ANH.

5. Solo
We didnt need this film. I hated it from the start. I hated it when it was cast and Ive hated ever since.

6. ANH
This will always be the grandaddy for me. So far ahead of its time, but you still love it for the characters and the story too. Enough said.

7. ESB
Only because ANH was first. That's the only reason this one wasn't numero uno for me. That story, the character and world building, that twist! And technology was beginning to catch up to Lucas' vision.

8. RotJ
I know I know, Ewoks. Btw, did you know that in early drafts, the Ewoks were to be Wookies? But, Lucas wanted it to b a primitive species that aided the rebellion in overtaking the Empire and Chewbacca had been show to be quite advanced, so, so much for that.
All things equal, I still like this film. It concluded the Vader bomb in ESB and also showed us that Lando could make amends.

9. TFA
I really really liked this film, a lot. It was just Star Wars. And it looked and felt like a world Lucas envisioned, but technology just wasn't there during his first run. Absolutely stellar acting by the two leads. This is what can make a film great, or turn it into AotC.
The torch began to change hands.

10. TLJ
Ah man, Rian Johnson, wtf dude, seriously?
The Finn and Rose arc, the direction felt less like SW by far than the previous, and what the hell with that slo mo shit over and over? Not to mention that whole Mary Poppins bullshit with Leia. There must have been ten ways to deliver the message of that interaction between Ben and Leia and he chose the tenth worst. Just not a good film at all.

Ranking:
A New Hope
Empire Strikes Back
The Force Awakens
Rogue One
Return of the Jedi
Revenge of the Sith
Attack of the Clones
The Phantom Menace
The Last Jedi



Solo


Honestly, Menace, Clones and Jedi are really close to each other and could even swap spots on my next viewing.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on November 29, 2019, 10:31:09 AM
Lol, Last Jedi under the three prequels? Hard agree to disagree on that one.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Rigg44 on November 29, 2019, 11:44:31 AM
Just because I did the same re-watching in chronological order to get ready for the Rise of Skywalker, here is my take.

1. TPM
The movie suffers from horrible acting.  Jake Lloyd and Pernilla August had all the emotional flexibility of a board in this movie.  Ewan McGregor and Liam Neeson turn in pedestrian performances that were obviously hampered by a fully digital environment.  The only saving graces to be had in this movie were the pod races and the duel scene.  Those almost make it worth the watch until you factor is Jar Jar, then this becomes the only piece of Star Wars I would rather just skip.   

2. AotC
Who would have thought any movie could make Samuel L. Jackson look pedestrian? Of course, he could not be his normal Pulp Fiction self but that didnít mean he had to alternatively be boring.
The main issue with this movie is pacing.  There are just too many long conversationally heavy scenes that add nothing to the plot.  Oh, and Anikian and Padme had zero chemistry.  In the end, I wish Lucas would have gone with a complete cast of unknowns like he did with the original trilogy.
We always knew Vader was a troubled soul but I thought that meant anger and hate not whiney teenage puberty.
Overall this movie is average at best and comically bad in spots but the large action sequences and Yodaís badassery save it from the trash heap.

3. RotS
This movie is universally regarded as the crown jewel of the sequels, and it is. The fight scenes are fantastic and well done. Some effects have aged very poorly ( I am looking at you lava platform hovering droid things) but overall this movie is good with one subtraction Padmeís death.  The way it was portrayed opened new plot holes. Leia clearly says she remembers her mother in RotJ but as portrayed that could not have happened. As Crewe said it also felt rushed and almost ďtacked onĒ.

4. RO
This film to me of all the newer movies feels the most like star wars.  It feels like a lived in-universe.  The characters are well developed with clear motivations and all are very well acted.  It also doesn't add side content to make unnecessary political commentary. Overall this movie is a great watch. 


5. Solo
I never thought we needed a Solo movie nor did I want a Solo movie.  Some characters by their nature are side characters Han is one of those characters.  Once you start explaining his motivations and history you eliminate his mystery which is a big part of his overall badassery. I will say that on second viewing I enjoyed it far more than I did when I initially watched it.  They still horribly miscast Han which pretty much doomed the movie.
 The action is well done Woody Harrelson is great in his role and I liked the world they built overall. The on the ground in the muck battle scene is probably one of the best battle scenes in all of star wars but its placed in a vehicle reliant on one thing, Han Solo and when they miscast that role they doomed the movie.

6. ANH
This movie still holds up for the most part. Sentimentally it is, of course, a legendary piece os cinema for me.  If I look at it objectively however it has some pacing issues and drags at times.  The acting is outstanding and the chemistry among our main characters is undeniable and that more than anything is why I fell in love with this franchise.

7. ESB
This is one of the few movies I consider perfect. It is well-paced the action is great and the story pushes our characters in ways we did not expect. This movie was and is one of my favorites of all time.

8. RotJ
This movie is not perfect and has many flaws (teddy bears, I mean Ewoks) but Jabas palace, Boba Fet, the Luke/ emperor  scene all make this movie a great addition to the saga.

9. TFA
I know that this movie was criticized heavily for its ďformulaicĒ approach and similar script to the original trilogy but so what.  This movie was a good movie. It's very well acted, shot beautifully with iconic scenes and great character development. Rey is a great new lead, Poe a great new Han, and Fin a great third.  This cast is great.

10. TLJ
After such a good opening salvo I had high hopes and they were dashed to the ground like and overripe watermelon. 
The Finn and Rose side quest was fine if not used as a vehicle for a political statement. There are plenty of films that would work in, not star wars, at least not in the ham-handed overt manner it was done in here.
They took the most badass hope-filled Jedi to every exist and turned him into a grumpy people hating old hermit. Then you donít even let him go out in a glorious blaze of glory instead he fades aways from overexertion, come on! This film is just a mess for so many reasons, Crewe already addressed Leia but man, really? 

Ranking:
A New Hope
Empire Strikes Back
Revenge of the Sith
Return of the Jedi
Rogue One
The Force Awakens
Attack of the Clones
The Last Jedi
Solo
The Phantom Menace
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on November 29, 2019, 01:52:48 PM
Lol, Last Jedi under the three prequels? Hard agree to disagree on that one.

haha, I had to make a statement lol
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on November 29, 2019, 02:17:15 PM
Just because I did the same re-watching in chronological order to get ready for the Rise of Skywalker, here is my take.

1. TPM
The movie suffers from horrible acting.  Jake Lloyd and Pernilla August had all the emotional flexibility of a board in this movie.  Ewan McGregor and Liam Neeson turn in pedestrian performances that were obviously hampered by a fully digital environment.  The only saving graces to be had in this movie were the pod races and the duel scene.  Those almost make it worth the watch until you factor is Jar Jar, then this becomes the only piece of Star Wars I would rather just skip.   

This is my thoughts throughout the prequels too. I never thought Neeson and McGregor were thwarted by the all digital world, but I guess I was so zoned in on how that was exactly the case with the other actors. Perhaps it was just just Lucas was unable to get what he intended out of these two. You are
right though, they were certainly middle of the road, while not detrimental.

2. AotC
Who would have thought any movie could make Samuel L. Jackson look pedestrian? Of course, he could not be his normal Pulp Fiction self but that didnít mean he had to alternatively be boring.
The main issue with this movie is pacing.  There are just too many long conversationally heavy scenes that add nothing to the plot.  Oh, and Anikian and Padme had zero chemistry.  In the end, I wish Lucas would have gone with a complete cast of unknowns like he did with the original trilogy.
We always knew Vader was a troubled soul but I thought that meant anger and hate not whiney teenage puberty.
Overall this movie is average at best and comically bad in spots but the large action sequences and Yodaís badassery save it from the trash heap.

That's a good point there. I kept waiting for the angst, not whining, to turn in to rage and puberty is a great reference lol

3. RotS
This movie is universally regarded as the crown jewel of the sequels, and it is. The fight scenes are fantastic and well done. Some effects have aged very poorly ( I am looking at you lava platform hovering droid things) but overall this movie is good with one subtraction Padmeís death.  The way it was portrayed opened new plot holes. Leia clearly says she remembers her mother in RotJ but as portrayed that could not have happened. As Crewe said it also felt rushed and almost ďtacked onĒ.

You know, the only out I've ever come up with regarding this comment was, did we ever learn what happened to mama Organa? Maybe it was her Leia was referencing? otherwise, yea, Im right there with you.

4. RO
This film to me of all the newer movies feels the most like star wars.  It feels like a lived in-universe.  The characters are well developed with clear motivations and all are very well acted.  It also doesn't add side content to make unnecessary political commentary. Overall this movie is a great watch. 

yup

5. Solo
I never thought we needed a Solo movie nor did I want a Solo movie.  Some characters by their nature are side characters Han is one of those characters.  Once you start explaining his motivations and history you eliminate his mystery which is a big part of his overall badassery. I will say that on second viewing I enjoyed it far more than I did when I initially watched it.  They still horribly miscast Han which pretty much doomed the movie.
 The action is well done Woody Harrelson is great in his role and I liked the world they built overall. The on the ground in the muck battle scene is probably one of the best battle scenes in all of star wars but its placed in a vehicle reliant on one thing, Han Solo and when they miscast that role they doomed the movie.

Thank you!  :-)

6. ANH
This movie still holds up for the most part. Sentimentally it is, of course, a legendary piece os cinema for me.  If I look at it objectively however it has some pacing issues and drags at times.  The acting is outstanding and the chemistry among our main characters is undeniable and that more than anything is why I fell in love with this franchise.

I thought even in the slower parts, the dialogue either developed the characters or drove the plot. You ever watch that doc about how editing saved Star Wars? you talk about poor pacing, watch that and see what Lucas initially intended lol To be fair to him, it was a first cut, but still.

7. ESB
This is one of the few movies I consider perfect. It is well-paced the action is great and the story pushes our characters in ways we did not expect. This movie was and is one of my favorites of all time.

 :D

8. RotJ
This movie is not perfect and has many flaws (teddy bears, I mean Ewoks) but Jabas palace, Boba Fet, the Luke/ emperor  scene all make this movie a great addition to the saga.

I go back and forth on the Ewoks. I mean, Lucas always had kids in mind when making Star Wars. Maybe Ive just seen it so much Ive softened on the whole thing. If he had just made them a bit more gritty. They did have some effective primal methods for taking out the At-At's, but the throwing stones and hand to hand with Stormtroopers.....ehhhh...no.

9. TFA
I know that this movie was criticized heavily for its ďformulaicĒ approach and similar script to the original trilogy but so what.  This movie was a good movie. It's very well acted, shot beautifully with iconic scenes and great character development. Rey is a great new lead, Poe a great new Han, and Fin a great third.  This cast is great.

You know, every Star Wars move follows that formula fairly close though. Ok, not every, but still, so Im like you, it gets a major pass for being Star Wars.
Agree on the actors man, there's just no way to emphasize how much of a difference they make in a world like this. I also think, personally, they were excited to be part of the SW universe and legacy. I never got that feel from Portman and Christianson. The film also had a few nods to the original without any overt or obvious fan service moments.

10. TLJ
After such a good opening salvo I had high hopes and they were dashed to the ground like and overripe watermelon. 
The Finn and Rose side quest was fine if not used as a vehicle for a political statement. There are plenty of films that would work in, not star wars, at least not in the ham-handed overt manner it was done in here.
They took the most badass hope-filled Jedi to every exist and turned him into a grumpy people hating old hermit. Then you donít even let him go out in a glorious blaze of glory instead he fades aways from overexertion, come on! This film is just a mess for so many reasons, Crewe already addressed Leia but man, really? 

yea, the Leia thing was just....man.
I go back and forth on the Luke/Ben thing too. I mean my fist thought was, bullshit. Here's Luke, a guy who was adamant he would turn a mostly machine being to the good side, or die trying. No gray area there. And now, he's going to murder his own teenage student? That is not Luke, at all.
The other part of me understands that they had to create a reason for Luke to close himself off from the force and this was a great way to do that. But visually, to have him standing over a sleeping "foe" with light saber drawn, again, thats not Luke. There were other ways to accomplish this crisis.
I do like the ambiguity created though, we have two versions, Luke's and Ben's and we don't know who to believe really so they did cover it at least.

Thanks for the input dude, enjoyed reading it!

Ranking:
A New Hope
Empire Strikes Back
Revenge of the Sith
Return of the Jedi
Rogue One
The Force Awakens
Attack of the Clones
The Last Jedi
Solo
The Phantom Menace
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Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 19, 2019, 11:37:55 PM
Star Wars
The Rise of Skywalker



No spoilers but all Ill say
Spoiler: show
is dont listen to the holier than thou critics.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on December 20, 2019, 08:57:38 AM
Star Wars
The Rise of Skywalker



No spoilers but all Ill say
Spoiler: show
is dont listen to the holier than thou critics.


I'm seeing some fairly split things from critics so...f it I'm going tonight anyway I can wait until then. LOL
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 20, 2019, 12:54:42 PM
Star Wars
The Rise of Skywalker



No spoilers but all Ill say
Spoiler: show
is dont listen to the holier than thou critics.


I'm seeing some fairly split things from critics so...f it I'm going tonight anyway I can wait until then. LOL

let me know what you think
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on December 20, 2019, 01:10:22 PM
I have not seen it but I read every spoiler. Sounds like when me and my brother used to play with our Star Wars toys as kids. That isn't a compliment.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 20, 2019, 01:26:57 PM
I have not seen it but I read every spoiler. Sounds like when me and my brother used to play with our Star Wars toys as kids. That isn't a compliment.

I doubt many critics have seen it.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on December 20, 2019, 01:27:37 PM
Oh, no, I'm not talking critics. I'm talking I read the full plot, including snippets of dialogue. I'm still going to see it, I've got tickets for the 29th, but, yikes.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 20, 2019, 01:41:49 PM
Oh, no, I'm not talking critics. I'm talking I read the full plot, including snippets of dialogue. I'm still going to see it, I've got tickets for the 29th, but, yikes.

I understand that, my point was quasi sarcastic in that you hated it already without seeing and I feel thats the way many are. I saw vitriolic rants just from the trailer for crying out loud.

I went in without knowing anything. I watched the very first teaser and thats all I knew. I just enjoy having my own untainted thoughts going in to a film I really want to see.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on December 20, 2019, 02:21:09 PM
Yeah, I know very little other than the trailers I watched over and over which is what I typically do.

And not to change the subject, but that Top Gun: Maverick trailer that dropped a few days ago has been watched over and over too. If you don't think I'm treating that movie release like Avengers or, well, Star Wars, you don't know me lol.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 20, 2019, 02:58:50 PM
Yeah, I know very little other than the trailers I watched over and over which is what I typically do.

And not to change the subject, but that Top Gun: Maverick trailer that dropped a few days ago has been watched over and over too. If you don't think I'm treating that movie release like Avengers or, well, Star Wars, you don't know me lol.

That was one was one the previews prior to the SW films too lol
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on December 21, 2019, 12:39:31 PM
Yeah, I know very little other than the trailers I watched over and over which is what I typically do.

And not to change the subject, but that Top Gun: Maverick trailer that dropped a few days ago has been watched over and over too. If you don't think I'm treating that movie release like Avengers or, well, Star Wars, you don't know me lol.

That was one was one the previews prior to the SW films too lol

And it looked amazing there too. Did you get the 7 minute prologue for Tenet? Canít wait for that either.

As for TROS...I liked it, was enjoyable enough. But I really wanted to love this movie and I kinda donít. Disappointed might be a decent word for my feelings. Iíll elaborate more, but this was a step back from TLJ which IMO was the best out of this just wrapped trilogy.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 21, 2019, 02:34:22 PM
Yeah, I know very little other than the trailers I watched over and over which is what I typically do.

And not to change the subject, but that Top Gun: Maverick trailer that dropped a few days ago has been watched over and over too. If you don't think I'm treating that movie release like Avengers or, well, Star Wars, you don't know me lol.

That was one was one the previews prior to the SW films too lol

And it looked amazing there too. Did you get the 7 minute prologue for Tenet? Canít wait for that either.

As for TROS...I liked it, was enjoyable enough. But I really wanted to love this movie and I kinda donít. Disappointed might be a decent word for my feelings. Iíll elaborate more, but this was a step back from TLJ which IMO was the best out of this just wrapped trilogy.

I didnt get the preview for Tenet.

Im finding that generally those that like TLJ hate RoS and those that dislike TLJ liked Ros. Interesting huh?

I guess
Spoiler: show
people bitched about TLJ that you can't have a nobody utilize the force. Then RoS, why did she have to be a Palpatine, why couldn't she be a nobody? TLJ wasn't terrible, I just felt there were a couple of big direction and story execution fails.
Ill have to watch the trilogy now to see how it all plays out.


Im with you in that I didnt love it, but I really liked it, I mean it wasn't meh to me. Sure, there were flaws, but they weren't spectacular IMO. I thought the film was visually stunning and that Ridley, Boyega, Isaac and Driver was terrific throughout this series.
One thing my SW nerd cousin and I discussed immediately after was, this ST would have been much better if you have the same story creator and/or screen writer for all three ala Lucas. And personally, Lawrence Kasdan should have been involved in 8 and 9. I think both would have been better served with his history.
Even better would have been if Disney hadn't shit all over Lucas' treatment and completely disregarded his wishes moving forward.
That said, the OT is still the best of the three with this ST still beating out the Lucas second attempt.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on December 23, 2019, 07:56:12 AM
I didnt get the preview for Tenet.

Im finding that generally those that like TLJ hate RoS and those that dislike TLJ liked Ros. Interesting huh?

I guess
Spoiler: show
people benched about TLJ that you can't have a nobody utilize the force. Then RoS, why did she have to be a Palpatine, why couldn't she be a nobody? TLJ wasn't terrible, I just felt there were a couple of big direction and story execution fails.
Ill have to watch the trilogy now to see how it all plays out.


Im with you in that I didnt love it, but I really liked it, I mean it wasn't meh to me. Sure, there were flaws, but they weren't spectacular IMO. I thought the film was visually stunning and that Ridley, Boyega, Isaac and Driver was terrific throughout this series.
One thing my SW nerd cousin and I discussed immediately after was, this ST would have been much better if you have the same story creator and/or screen writer for all three ala Lucas. And personally, Lawrence Kasdan should have been involved in 8 and 9. I think both would have been better served with his history.
Even better would have been if Disney hadn't shirt all over Lucas' treatment and completely disregarded his wishes moving forward.
That said, the OT is still the best of the three with this ST still beating out the Lucas second attempt.

Yeah, I can see that correlation between the two movies and how people felt about them. And absolutely, this movie kinda confirms to me a bit that they really didn't have a clear vision in place for this trilogy. Because I feel if they did...

Spoiler: show
They wouldn't have spent a good portion of this movie trying to course correct TLJ (which IMO it didn't need in the first place, the series needed bold strokes and Rian Johnson provided that). "Heh, we said Rey was a nobody? Haha, just kidding about that one." "Hi Rose, you played a pretty big role in TLJ so we're going to reward that by just making you an afterthought here."

Seriously, they did Rian Johnson and Kelly Marie Tran wrong here.

And then they just leave certain things unresolved or unexplained. Like hey, Palpatine's back so just deal with it (and that's also annoying to me because I feel it cheapens Vader/Anakin's redemption from RotJ but whatever). They make a big deal about Finn never getting to tell Rey something for the first half of this movie then forget all about it. And now he's Force-sensitive?


It's not a bad movie, though. Like you said, Daisy Ridley, John Boyega, Oscar Isaac, and Adam Driver (who I'm liking more and more as an actor with all I'm seeing him in) did amazing work throughout this trilogy. If the nostalgia's what you're looking for the two Abrams movies delivered it in spades. But I really feel we seriously could've had better.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 23, 2019, 04:19:39 PM
I didnt get the preview for Tenet.

Im finding that generally those that like TLJ hate RoS and those that dislike TLJ liked Ros. Interesting huh?

I guess
Spoiler: show
people benched about TLJ that you can't have a nobody utilize the force. Then RoS, why did she have to be a Palpatine, why couldn't she be a nobody? TLJ wasn't terrible, I just felt there were a couple of big direction and story execution fails.
Ill have to watch the trilogy now to see how it all plays out.


Im with you in that I didnt love it, but I really liked it, I mean it wasn't meh to me. Sure, there were flaws, but they weren't spectacular IMO. I thought the film was visually stunning and that Ridley, Boyega, Isaac and Driver was terrific throughout this series.
One thing my SW nerd cousin and I discussed immediately after was, this ST would have been much better if you have the same story creator and/or screen writer for all three ala Lucas. And personally, Lawrence Kasdan should have been involved in 8 and 9. I think both would have been better served with his history.
Even better would have been if Disney hadn't shirt all over Lucas' treatment and completely disregarded his wishes moving forward.
That said, the OT is still the best of the three with this ST still beating out the Lucas second attempt.

Yeah, I can see that correlation between the two movies and how people felt about them. And absolutely, this movie kinda confirms to me a bit that they really didn't have a clear vision in place for this trilogy. Because I feel if they did...

Spoiler: show
They wouldn't have spent a good portion of this movie trying to course correct TLJ (which IMO it didn't need in the first place, the series needed bold strokes and Rian Johnson provided that). "Heh, we said Rey was a nobody? Haha, just kidding about that one." "Hi Rose, you played a pretty big role in TLJ so we're going to reward that by just making you an afterthought here."

Seriously, they did Rian Johnson and Kelly Marie Tran wrong here.

And then they just leave certain things unresolved or unexplained. Like hey, Palpatine's back so just deal with it (and that's also annoying to me because I feel it cheapens Vader/Anakin's redemption from RotJ but whatever). They make a big deal about Finn never getting to tell Rey something for the first half of this movie then forget all about it. And now he's Force-sensitive?


It's not a bad movie, though. Like you said, Daisy Ridley, John Boyega, Oscar Isaac, and Adam Driver (who I'm liking more and more as an actor with all I'm seeing him in) did amazing work throughout this trilogy. If the nostalgia's what you're looking for the two Abrams movies delivered it in spades. But I really feel we seriously could've had better.

Spoiler: show

Thats what I mean, there's no tag team vision. I dont mind what Johnson was trying to do, its just the way he did it was fucked.
Now its like Johnson wanted Finn to love Rose and JJ wants him to love Rey. Did they not talk to each other, at all?
The Rose Finn thing in TLJ was pointless to me so I really had no problem erasing it here, at least the love interest portion.
Regarding Palpatine, a majority of people have a problem with that, I really dont. I mean, he's back and insinuated how he came back plus we learn more about the "life force" which we've never seen, so, Im ok with it. I guess I could I hate if I really wanted to. But if they brought him back now or during 8, would it matter? I can see how it would cheapen RotJ for some, but for me it doesn't because Vader did what he did and reconciled him with his son and redeemed his character. Palatine returning doesn't change that for me.
What Finn wanted to say to Rey? Yea, that was a red flag. I mean, how can that be a major component of a character and then just omitted? I dont get that at all. I keep thinking Im missing something there.

A note to add, the way Chewie reacted to Leia's demise was what I was looking for with Han but we never got it. And it still grinds my gears that in TFA, once Chewbacca returns, Leia just disses him an goes straight to Rey to console her about Solo being killed.




I thought both 8 and 9 could have been better, and like I said earlier, I wish Kasden had been in all three projects to help cohesiveness.
The trilogies for me are, OT, second ST and first ST.
I know Im alone on 9 but at least its over and we can all move on now.

I still wish they wouldn't have jettisoned all of Lucas' material for these three. That's what bothers me more than anything.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on December 23, 2019, 05:03:57 PM
I still wish they wouldn't have jettisoned all of Lucas' material for these three. That's what bothers me more than anything.


Lucas' material involved microscopic creatures living inside midichlorians that produced the Force. Some things ARE better left untouched, haha.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 23, 2019, 06:23:10 PM
I still wish they wouldn't have jettisoned all of Lucas' material for these three. That's what bothers me more than anything.


Lucas' material involved microscopic creatures living inside midichlorians that produced the Force. Some things ARE better left untouched, haha.

yea, with the journal of the whills and all that lol
Didnt say it all needed to be incorporated ;-)
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on December 25, 2019, 08:06:07 PM
Knives Out was really f'ing good, and if you like murder-mystery whodunits you really need to see this as soon as possible. Top notch acting from the start and it weaved a great story.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 26, 2019, 06:32:50 PM
I knew I would love that flick, plus...Jamie Lee Curtis  :D
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on December 26, 2019, 07:24:46 PM
I've got a weekend ahead of me, fellas.

Got tickets for Friday for me, kiddo and the fiancee to all see Uncut Gems, can't wait, so freaking excited for this movie.

Saturday kiddo and I are seeing Rise of Skywalker in "Laser IMAX," whatever that is. I'm just hoping for a pretty picture on the screen.

And Sunday it's all 3 of us again for Little Women. I absolutely loved Lady Bird, and having this be directed and written by Greta Gerwig also, plus what is simply an incredible cast (seriously, LOOK AT THAT CAST), I can't miss this movie.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 26, 2019, 09:19:07 PM
Sounds fun!
Looking forward to hearing about em

Thought Id do a quick drive by without reviews:

Star Wars RoS - yes, have some
Doctor Sleep - if you hated or didnt get The Shining, then pass, everyone else, see it.
It - Im behind I know, but I liked it.
Mr Robot S4 - yes please, see em all
Jack Ryan S2 - again, have some
Dead to Me S1 - only one season thus far, I didnt know that or I would have waited. That said, Christina Applegate and Linda Cardellini shine in this dark sometimes thrilling comedy.

I think thats all ive been up to lately...
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on December 28, 2019, 01:35:27 AM
Uncut Gems

My new #1 movie of the year. We'll see if it's quickly supplanted by Little Women, but, I doubt it.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on December 28, 2019, 07:36:16 PM
Saw Star Wars today. It was fine. Honestly I felt bored, which was disappointing. It was very pretty but otherwise, meh.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 29, 2019, 09:08:48 PM
So I am the only one here that liked it ;-)
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on December 29, 2019, 09:14:19 PM
So I am the only one here that liked it ;-)

Believe it or not, I really wanted to like it, but it was just too all over the place. More fan service than movie and just completely nonsensical.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 29, 2019, 09:46:22 PM
So I am the only one here that liked it ;-)

Believe it or not, I really wanted to like it, but it was just too all over the place. More fan service than movie and just completely nonsensical.

I believe you, I was the same way about 8.
I just dont get that at all. Coherent story, visually stunning, great cast with acting chops, I mean, I guess Im just a moron for not seeing all the plight.
Its a 9 ep story about Skywalkrs...how in the living hell can you tell that story without "nostalgia" that everyone is so up in arms about?
It's interesting though, by and large, I noticed that critics loved 8, fans hated it, and 9, critics hate but fans loved it.
Go figure
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Rigg44 on December 30, 2019, 03:10:38 PM
So I am the only one here that liked it ;-)

Nope, I liked it.  I thought it had its issues but overall I would give it a 7 out of 10.  I wish they had not had to wast so much time undoing 8 but other than that it was good.  It's about middle of the pack for me. 
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Rigg44 on December 30, 2019, 03:12:19 PM
So I am the only one here that liked it ;-)

Believe it or not, I really wanted to like it, but it was just too all over the place. More fan service than movie and just completely nonsensical.

I believe you, I was the same way about 8.
I just dont get that at all. Coherent story, visually stunning, great cast with acting chops, I mean, I guess Im just a moron for not seeing all the plight.
Its a 9 ep story about Skywalkrs...how in the living hell can you tell that story without "nostalgia" that everyone is so up in arms about?
It's interesting though, by and large, I noticed that critics loved 8, fans hated it, and 9, critics hate but fans loved it.
Go figure

I agree with everything you just said.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 30, 2019, 09:18:52 PM


I agree with everything you just said.

hahaha, thats rare that folks agree with me ;-)
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on December 31, 2019, 01:15:06 PM
Brigsby Bear (2017)

A real review! I remember seeing the trailer for this way back then and hoping it'd be in a theater near me, and it never was. Fast forward to last night when kiddo asks me "Hey, what was the name of that movie with Mark Hamill and the bear TV show?"

Brigsby Bear stars Kyle Mooney of SNL fame and was produced by Andy Samberg's The Lonely Island (while being directed by someone named Dave McCary who has apparently not done much else besides SNL episodes).

Within the first 10-15 minutes, we're introduced to Mooney and his mom and dad, played by Mark Hamill and and Jane Adams), and the public broadcasting level TV show Mooney loves called Brigsby Bear. Just as swiftly, we're introduced to the FBI agents arresting Hamill and Adams for having kidnapped Mooney's character from the hospital after his birth. Yup, that's right, they're not his parents, and Brigsby Bear? That was just his false dad creating a TV show for him in a warehouse. All his friends he talks about the show with online? Also his mom and dad.

From there, Mooney gets relocated to his real parents' house, and is forced to confront that everything has been a lie, but most of all, his hero, Brigsby Bear, is non-existent.

The movie was really good and, for having been written and released before the height of the toxic fandom epidemic, it takes a real critical look at the disappointment that comes from finding out the pop culture you enjoy and identify with, and have made friends with others (unless it's just your parents using fake accounts on an intranet) over has meant nothing, and ways you can find to give that thing meaning rather than just wallowing in misery, hate and self-pity.

It's honestly a really positive, optimistic movie and Mooney's performance is just fantastic. Also great jobs from Matt Walsh, Michaela Watkins and Ryan Simpkins, highly recommend. Was only $3.99 to rent from Prime Video.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on January 03, 2020, 03:44:13 PM
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

I really liked the stylistic choices made by Tarantino as he seems to really shine with his period piece films.
The art direction was spot on and until I saw it in the film, I had completely forgotten about the old Taco Bell restaurants. That was awesome to see as well as the old rides etc, not to mention the fads and style.

The story revolves around an actor (DiCaprio) who is slowly being pigeon holed in to TV roles depicting certain characters and fears he is becoming irrelevant. His buddy and stunt double (Pitt) is a semi out of work stunt man who drives Rick Dalton around and is basically his right hand.
There was push back from some fans and the family of Bruce Lee regarding the scene depicting the famous martial arts master getting his ass handed to him on a set by Cliff Booth (Pitt)
I honestly see what Tarantino was after here and those of us who grew up on Lee films knows he did say some things along the lines of what was in the movie. The Lee family, certainly not out of line for being upset, but at the same time Im not sure they understood the juxtaposition of the scene as we are shown how Booth remembers it which doesn't mean it was accurate.
I also read later that Brad Pitt had helped restructure the scene where Lee looks more formidable as Tarantino had him losing in the two out of three bout but Pitt had it changed to a draw with the third bout not taking place.

Meantime, DiCaprio seems right in his wheelhouse here delivering a great performance and QT had a great script for him to sink his teeth in to.
Margot Robbie was amazing as Sharon Tate as well, especially with her Nancy Sinatra go go boots  :o

I was excited about this film when I first heard about it because I enjoy reading about Manson and his followers and really didnt know what to expect as I abstained from info and trailers etc.
QT didnt do much of a dive in to them but did introduce the characters to the audience so you get enough of a feel about their motivations without it overpowering the film.
I thought that the Tate LaBianca murders were going to be a background part to the story of DiCaprio and Pitt
Spoiler: show
but, if you've seen it, you know better.
Tarantino delivers us Inglorious Basterds in the 60's and it just doesn't have the same impact. Booth completely demolishes the Manson clan as they mistakenly enter Dalton's house instead of Tate's.
At first glance, I really didnt like the fact the Manson clan were directly involved in the plot, and mainly the final act, because, my own preconceived notion was that they weren't going to be included.
I'm sure the victim's families were pleased with this outcome which ends by showing the friendly vibrant personality of Ms. Tate instead of seeing her true fate plastered across the screen. I was really happy with that choice too.
Taking it in in the QT universe though, I mean what should I have expected?

All in all, a decent film, but its on the lower end of Tarantino films for me.
Matter of fact, the Kill Bill films are the only thing keeping this one from the bottom. And again, not saying its a horrible movie, I just had different expectations.

3.5/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on January 03, 2020, 03:59:08 PM
And again, not saying its a horrible movie, I just had different expectations.

That seems to be a deciding factor here. People who thought we were going to get Charles Manson by way of QT were disappointed (and I do get the appeal), but QT
Spoiler: show
unexpectedly showed a bit of restraint and instead gave Sharon Tate a pleasant day out, which was actually really kind of sweet.


But yeah, after reading some reviews without spoilers and getting the general vibe, I got the idea that this was both a hangout movie and a treatise on the 60s and what could have been without the Manson disruption, so I was happy with what I got.

I also don't get all of the Bruce Lee controversy, because he was a shit talker, it was part of his game, and as you pointed out, we're seeing Cliff's memory of the event, and not the actual event itself. I guess this is why a lot of movies feel like holding peoples hands these days....

Anyways, I did not live during the 60s, so I really wanted to spend the 2.5 hours in QT's version of it, which, as you said, with the production value and what-not, is extremely close to how Hollywood looked in the 60s, so I really enjoyed that aspect of it. I get the complaints that there's not a huge story arc there, but QT was less interested in telling a straight forward story and playing more with themes this go-round (which makes sense, as he seems to be considering retiring, so you have to believe Rick's fears of irrelevance are QT's own, and the ending, where Rick's asked "are you going to be ok" and he can finally say "I think so" (I think that's the line) is QT accepting whatever comes next. But, I could be projecting.

This is basically me saying "Man, I really enjoyed this film and I wish you could have had the experience I had," which typically drives my responses but tends to come off as me soap boxing, so apologies for that.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on January 03, 2020, 05:23:23 PM
And again, not saying its a horrible movie, I just had different expectations.

That seems to be a deciding factor here. People who thought we were going to get Charles Manson by way of QT were disappointed (and I do get the appeal), but QT
Spoiler: show
unexpectedly showed a bit of restraint and instead gave Sharon Tate a pleasant day out, which was actually really kind of sweet.


But yeah, after reading some reviews without spoilers and getting the general vibe, I got the idea that this was both a hangout movie and a treatise on the 60s and what could have been without the Manson disruption, so I was happy with what I got.

I also don't get all of the Bruce Lee controversy, because he was a shit talker, it was part of his game, and as you pointed out, we're seeing Cliff's memory of the event, and not the actual event itself. I guess this is why a lot of movies feel like holding peoples hands these days....

Anyways, I did not live during the 60s, so I really wanted to spend the 2.5 hours in QT's version of it, which, as you said, with the production value and what-not, is extremely close to how Hollywood looked in the 60s, so I really enjoyed that aspect of it. I get the complaints that there's not a huge story arc there, but QT was less interested in telling a straight forward story and playing more with themes this go-round (which makes sense, as he seems to be considering retiring, so you have to believe Rick's fears of irrelevance are QT's own, and the ending, where Rick's asked "are you going to be ok" and he can finally say "I think so" (I think that's the line) is QT accepting whatever comes next. But, I could be projecting.

This is basically me saying "Man, I really enjoyed this film and I wish you could have had the experience I had," which typically drives my responses but tends to come off as me soap boxing, so apologies for that.

I agree with your spoiler, which I liked as well.
I think we are on the same page pretty much except I think I had an actual QT storytelling idea in my head prior to, so that kinda sorta tainted me a little as I watched, but yea, spot on with the rest.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on January 12, 2020, 06:47:18 PM
Parasite
Song Kang Ho

I saw this film suggested and although I hadn't heard about it, I was intrigued when I saw the Rotten Tomatoes score so I gave it a look.

A poor Korean family lives in a half basement when they are provided an opportunity for work.
Instead of simply taking the opportunity their son (Choi Woo-shik) has been given, he, playing upon the naive but generous madame of the Park household, Cho Yeo-jeong  , his new employer.
He recommends his sister as an art tutor for their young son and after meeting Park So-dam Ms. Park hires her, clueless that the pair are related.
The same method is used to oust the family driver and long time housekeeper out of their jobs so mom and dad Chang Hyae-jin and Song Kang-ho respectively.
This film makes serious unapologetic statements regarding the classes of society.and does so with not so subtle directing and cinematography, and actors who seem deeply tuned in to the story and their character arcs.
Well acted and directed all the way around, I was pleasantly surprised by this film, considering I knew nothing about it and watched it 10 minutes after I was first exposed to it.
A genre for this movie, maybe comedy, thriller, drama squeezed together in a cinematic experience worth experiencing.
It is subtitled but don't let that be a deterrent.

4.25/5


Knives Out
Jamie Lee Curtis, Chris Evans, Ana de Armas


I wanted to see this film for several reasons; Jami Lee Curtis for one, Ana de Armas for another, Daniel Craig, Don Johnson (yes Don Johnson)
and the fact I freaking love this genre of film!

Harlan Thrombey (Christopher Plummer) is discovered after an apparent suicide by his housekeeper after a birthday party for him by his family.
Immediately we are involved in a police investigation who are poking around provided the coroner doesn't rule suicide which it is believed he will.
This is the clock of the plot that the story has to beat now and Daniel Craig takes over the lead although he isn't a cop.
With his deep southern Kentucky Friday accent (which is beautifully comical) Benoit Blanc is a highly renowned private investigator who was mysteriously hired to investigate the potential murder.
As the centerpiece, Craig carries this film masterfully despite a wonderful ensemble cast including Michael Shannon, Katherine Langford and Toni Collette.
Marta (Ana de Armas,) as Mr Thrombley's nurse and caretaker becomes a central figure in the investigation who has to face down the entire family who are squabbling over the will.
During the second act, we see in this film also, sentiments of today's values and viewpoints, spoken verbatim by Don Johnson's character midway through.
You see and hear the divisive ideas that punish our society today without overtaking the movie which leaves it entrenched firmly in the traditional whodunnit genre.
It's a well crafted story and told seamlessly by director Rian Johnson (of TLJ failure ;-)) while housed on a beautifully decorated set that truly captures the essence of a very well to do, rich, family.
As we move through the story, it follows the mystery template, unraveling the riddle bits at a time while uncovering unsettling dirt on different family members and the point of view of whoever is telling the story via brief flashbacks during the police interrogation.
It's extremely hard to direct these types of films which will probably be re watched many times to absorb the films many different turns but I think this one succeeds even though to me it was a bit obvious on the first watch, but that doesn't alter the tie at all which was quite fun and entertaining, not. to mention with a tinge of profound dialogue.

Spoiler: show
Chris Evans to me, as the slickster hipster narcissistic was the obvious orchestrater of villainy.
Btw, a personal note, I think this is really close to who he really is and I say that because an actress friend of mine was on a project with him when he was a nobody and he wanted nobody staring at him or ogling. As she was walking past him and his wee entourage she looked up not realizing it was him and just politely said hi while moving along. Few minutes later she was booted off the project because of a simple passer by greeting. What a prick.


I might give this movie a bit more praise than most because as I said I love this type of film, but it seems pretty well received overall.
Id jump on the wagon if I were you.

4.25/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on January 12, 2020, 07:19:57 PM
Funnily enough, was visiting SC this weekend and just took kiddo to see Parasite today, despite having seen it myself. Just as good the second go around.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on January 12, 2020, 08:49:46 PM
Funnily enough, was visiting SC this weekend and just took kiddo to see Parasite today, despite having seen it myself. Just as good the second go around.

I was curious if it has value on a second watch. Maybe I will
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on January 13, 2020, 02:22:21 AM
Funnily enough, was visiting SC this weekend and just took kiddo to see Parasite today, despite having seen it myself. Just as good the second go around.

I was curious if it has value on a second watch. Maybe I will

The funnest part was noticing all the times that people OTHER than Mr Park are walking up the stairs into the house, and seeing the lights NOT go off one by one for them. It's all about the details.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on January 16, 2020, 02:10:32 PM
Run Silent, Run Deep (1958)

I enjoy The Next Picture Show podcast, and in their episode regarding Uncut Gems, during the recommendation portion, somebody mentioned Run Silent, Run Deep, as a similarly themed movie, in terms of having high tension and a main character with an unhealthy obsession. In Uncut Gems, it's gambling. In Run Silent, Run Deep, it's vengeance.

Starring Clark Gable and Burt Lancaster, with the first serious role for Don Rickles and one of my favorite "your dad's favorite actor" type actors, Jack Warden, Run Silent, Run Deep is the story of a World War II submarine. Gable, submarine captain, starts the film in the Bungo Straits, only to have his submarine sunk by a Japanese destroyer, the Akikaze. We then fast forward to Gable behind a desk, his new role. But not for long.

The main tension of the film comes from Burt Lancaster, who is given command of the USS Nerka, a new submarine, only to have command taken from him and given to Gable. Lancaster asks to be transferred, but Gable won't allow it, and keeps him as his Executive Officer. The "stealing" of his ship, combined with Gable's extremely unorthodox drilling methods, lead to high tensions and potential mutiny while sailing across a dangerous watery battleground.

I watched this film on my phone, on a plane, flying home from South Carolina, not knowing what to expect. Sometimes you watch "those old movies" that your dad used to watch and whatever luster they may have had once upon a time, it's since faded. This is not one of those movies. Made with tremendous cooperation from the US Navy, the technical detail of the film and the war scenes, combined with exceptional performances by Lancaster, Gable and Warden result in what I can only refer to as a timeless classic. I was absolutely riveted and tense in my seat, which was what I hoped for from a movie given the slightest word of mouth association to Uncut Gems. Did not disappoint.

Would recommend to anyone.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Rigg44 on January 16, 2020, 04:42:33 PM
Run Silent, Run Deep (1958)

I enjoy The Next Picture Show podcast, and in their episode regarding Uncut Gems, during the recommendation portion, somebody mentioned Run Silent, Run Deep, as a similarly themed movie, in terms of having high tension and a main character with an unhealthy obsession. In Uncut Gems, it's gambling. In Run Silent, Run Deep, it's vengeance.

Starring Clark Gable and Burt Lancaster, with the first serious role for Don Rickles and one of my favorite "your dad's favorite actor" type actors, Jack Warden, Run Silent, Run Deep is the story of a World War II submarine. Gable, submarine captain, starts the film in the Bungo Straits, only to have his submarine sunk by a Japanese destroyer, the Akikaze. We then fast forward to Gable behind a desk, his new role. But not for long.

The main tension of the film comes from Burt Lancaster, who is given command of the USS Nerka, a new submarine, only to have command taken from him and given to Gable. Lancaster asks to be transferred, but Gable won't allow it, and keeps him as his Executive Officer. The "stealing" of his ship, combined with Gable's extremely unorthodox drilling methods, lead to high tensions and potential mutiny while sailing across a dangerous watery battleground.

I watched this film on my phone, on a plane, flying home from South Carolina, not knowing what to expect. Sometimes you watch "those old movies" that your dad used to watch and whatever luster they may have had once upon a time, it's since faded. This is not one of those movies. Made with tremendous cooperation from the US Navy, the technical detail of the film and the war scenes, combined with exceptional performances by Lancaster, Gable and Warden result in what I can only refer to as a timeless classic. I was absolutely riveted and tense in my seat, which was what I hoped for from a movie given the slightest word of mouth association to Uncut Gems. Did not disappoint.

Would recommend to anyone.

Its a great movie that often makes on best of all time lists or at least it did before people started hating anything older than 20 years.

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on January 16, 2020, 11:40:47 PM
Good film!
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 22, 2020, 09:29:58 AM
I remember watching this tv show growing up and being mildly entertained by it but didnít remember much of the actual story or the characters.

Also didnít know this was being rebooted/made into a movie, but Peter Berg directing and one Winston Duke (MíBaku from Black Panther) as Hawk? Well sign me up.

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on January 22, 2020, 10:21:56 PM
what tv series?
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on January 22, 2020, 10:39:36 PM
what tv series?

Spenser For Hire. I think it was Robert Urich in the lead role.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on January 22, 2020, 11:32:58 PM
what tv series?

Spenser For Hire. I think it was Robert Urich in the lead role.

I was wondering if that was it.
Why even bother calling it a reboot? Just title your knock off movie something else, no one gives a shit
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on February 04, 2020, 11:12:42 AM
Couldn't care less how cliched and formulaic this movie looks like it's gonna be...it's a sports movie right in my wheelhouse. LFG.

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on February 04, 2020, 04:45:53 PM
Couldn't care less how cliched and formulaic this movie looks like it's gonna be...it's a sports movie right in my wheelhouse. LFG.


I feel like I just watched the movie
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Rigg44 on February 24, 2020, 12:15:28 PM
Honey Boy



So I watched this movie over the weekend and thought I would give my two cents. It's a semi biography of shia labeouf's life.  It is a slow affair that takes a while to find its footing. The cinematography was that grainy washed out look made famous by Seven.  It fits the overall bleak world the movie is trying to portray.  I don't care for it normally but it fit the motif of the film.

The story was predictable and straight forward. I am not sure if this is a result of the writing or me knowing something about Labeouf's life before watching the movie. The plot serves its purpose and that's about it.  In the end, this like most independent films is about the actor's performances.  I felt like everyone involved put in a workman like performance with spikes of greatness.  Shia Labeouf's performance was above average and at times creeping into great.  It only makes sense he would be connected to the material since it is based on his experiences.  The only true stand out performance was put in by Noah Jupe the boy playing co-lead beside Shia.  He is believable and really sells the character.   

My recommendation is a lukewarm 3 out of 5 stars.  It is worth a watch but there is nothing surprising here.  I do not regret watching it but don't see my self going out of my way to see it again.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on February 24, 2020, 06:35:39 PM
Honey Boy




Aw, that's unfortunate. My son's a huge Shia fan, and while I know he had a whacky upbringing, I didn't know the specific details (and I wouldn't be surprised if the movie isn't a perfect 1:1 of events). That being said, seems like a lot of the things you either weren't a fan of or didn't quite connect with (as you said, due to possibly knowing the story already) is all the stuff I liked about it.

I've heard the movie described as his personal therapy session, and while a simplified description it's not exactly untrue, I think this is what appealed to me the most about the movie. Just the concept of Shia playing his own dad (and as you noted, all the performances in this are great, especially the child actor playing young "Shia"), I just found it utterly fascinating.

Caught it on my kid's recommendation a bit ago, was very impressed.





___________________


Today, I bring you The Lodge.


This is going to be a tough one to get into without spoiling anything, so, I won't. It is a scary movie, although not a jump scare type (although there were 2 moments that got me to jump). Mostly, as with most of these A24 and NEON horror films these days, it's that sort of atmospheric, very human type of horror people are making these days (see: Hereditary, The VVitch, It Comes At Night, Midsommar).

The trailer kinda covers it, but I'll give you the basic setup:

A dad takes his 2 kids and recently wedded wife (their stepmother) to a remote lodge for Christmas. He has to work a few days in the city still, so leaves the other 3 behind. At the lodge, the kids both dislike their stepmother, because she's not their mom, but also because their dad met her while researching his book on cults, because she's a survivor of a cult, and not just a survivor, but the cult leader's daughter.

Naturally, whacky spooky hijinx ensue.

My biggest issue with horror movies these days entirely expectation based: my expectations going into the movie, and how my expectations change during the movie (aka, the movie I'm watching vs the movie I'm watching in my head as events transpire). This movie does a great job of taking your expectations and moving them left, right, back and forward, that I genuinely was surprised by some of the twists and turns it takes, that I just had to let my expectations go and follow it where it took me.

Overall, it's the best of the 2020 releases I've seen so far (the only other 2020 release I've seen so far is Birds of Prey, so...take that how you wish), but definitely worth catching in theaters. And that's without going into all the religious imagery the movie invokes, because, as a lifelong atheist, I can't really parse all that.


4/5 stars
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on February 26, 2020, 11:37:06 AM
The evolution of "horror" films is really interesting to me as a fan. I mean, Halloween, Friday the 13th et al, to this.
Ill have to take a peek.

Uncut Gems

A quick drive by about this film.
It's an anxiety ridden, tense, pressure packed journey about a jeweler with a gambling habit burning both ends of the candle.
Sandler shows again that he indeed has acting chops beyond the Happy Madison screwball comedies of which he's usually associated.
This character constantly makes poor decisions but somehow as troubled as he is, Howard Ratner still comes across sympathetic and the film portrays his addiction perfectly.
However, this is not a film about the pitfalls of gambling but more about the fact that our protagonist needs the rush of excitement that gambling creates.
The constant jostling of debtors, the swindling, the hob knobbing, the attempts to keep those around him satiated until he can get everything under control.
Of course thats the point, it's never under control.
This is a fast paced film that won't appeal to everyone. I dont think there's more than 20 or 30 minutes where there isn't incessant shouting, or a chaotic scene, but thats the filmmakers expressing the day to day life of Howard Ratner and it is indeed, chaotic.

4/5

Your horror post reminds me I watched Lighthouse, so...

Lighthouse

The short of it is, I dont know if I liked it or not. I certainly won't rave about it, but I didnt hate it either.
Maybe I wasn't in the right frame of mind to take this all in.
I really enjoyed the imagery, cinematography and the tight framing direction throughout.
The characters descent wasn't really entertaining nor interesting. Not dull really, but somewhere in between.
Tell me what I missed about this movie.

3/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on February 26, 2020, 01:57:12 PM
The evolution of "horror" films is really interesting to me as a fan. I mean, Halloween, Friday the 13th et al, to this.
Ill have to take a peek.

Uncut Gems

A quick drive by about this film.
It's an anxiety ridden, tense, pressure packed journey about a jeweler with a gambling habit burning both ends of the candle.
Sandler shows again that he indeed has acting chops beyond the Happy Madison screwball comedies of which he's usually associated.
This character constantly makes poor decisions but somehow as troubled as he is, Howard Ratner still comes across sympathetic and the film portrays his addiction perfectly.
However, this is not a film about the pitfalls of gambling but more about the fact that our protagonist needs the rush of excitement that gambling creates.
The constant jostling of debtors, the swindling, the hob knobbing, the attempts to keep those around him satiated until he can get everything under control.
Of course thats the point, it's never under control.
This is a fast paced film that won't appeal to everyone. I dont think there's more than 20 or 30 minutes where there isn't incessant shouting, or a chaotic scene, but thats the filmmakers expressing the day to day life of Howard Ratner and it is indeed, chaotic.

4/5

Your horror post reminds me I watched Lighthouse, so...

Lighthouse

The short of it is, I dont know if I liked it or not. I certainly won't rave about it, but I didnt hate it either.
Maybe I wasn't in the right frame of mind to take this all in.
I really enjoyed the imagery, cinematography and the tight framing direction throughout.
The characters descent wasn't really entertaining nor interesting. Not dull really, but somewhere in between.
Tell me what I missed about this movie.

3/5


I could talk about both of these movies the entire day, hahaha. I loved them both! Go figure.

So, Lighthouse first. I went into the Lighthouse expecting fantastic production value (basically, recreating that era and set pieces), and that's exactly what I got. Yeah, the "descent into madness" thing is a bit overdone at this point, and I don't think this movie adds anything particularly new. There's a LOT of imagery it plays with though, including the story of Icarus especially (the fascination with the light), and I know that near final shot where Dafoe stands above Pattinson holding his arm is a reference to a painting, I can't remember which one though (I read a lot online, but uh, not all of it gets retained....)

Anyways, I mostly went into this because it was Dafoe vs Pattinson, and I really enjoyed their performances, but especially Dafoe. He gets some amazing monologues to just chew through in this one and I enjoyed that a lot ("HARRRRRRRRRRRRK!") That's kind of what it came down to for me, and it delivered what I was expecting, in that regard.



But Uncut Gems


Uncut Gems tho


This is my #1 movie of the year, and, I love Parasite, Parasite is great, it deserves to win the Oscar it got, and I wouldn't have even been mad if Uncut Gems was nominated and Parasite STILL one. But, being from a half Jewish family (my mom's side) and New York, this movie was sort of like going home for me. Yes, including all the yelling.

I love this movie. I love this movie from start to finish. My son loved this movie. Fiancee did not (admittedly, I knew what it was going into it, the high tension, high anxiety, non-stop in your face intensity of the filmmaking, which was 100% not her thing). I bought it on Amazon, yesterday, the first day it was available for purchase. Have I mentioned I love this movie?

You touched on so many great aspects already (and thank goodness someone else recognizes THE GAMBLING ISN'T HIS ADDICTION. So tired of the "why would I care about a shitty sports gambler" responses....)

Like I said, I could go on forever, but Matt Singer had an article on Screencrush today that I'll share here that I think you'll love:


https://screencrush.com/uncut-gems-is-a-basketball-game/
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on February 26, 2020, 02:14:27 PM
HOW did I not pick up on that basketball analogy and theme?
The halftime bit is amazing to me.
The more I think about it, the more I like it. I might have to watch it again.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on February 26, 2020, 02:16:26 PM
Finally got around to watching Parasite this morning. What an amazing film.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on February 26, 2020, 02:27:28 PM
HOW did I not pick up on that basketball analogy and theme?
The halftime bit is amazing to me.
The more I think about it, the more I like it. I might have to watch it again.

Isn't that article just a ton of fun? So cool.

It's stuff like that which is why I enjoyed Mother! so much in 2017. I love movies that are so open to interpretations.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on February 26, 2020, 02:29:57 PM
Finally got around to watching Parasite this morning. What an amazing film.

So much fun. Even my fiancee, who hates subs, is considering finally giving in and watching it, haha.

I was surprised, I visited SC back in January to see the family (was originally going to be my bachelor party weekend until I decided to not have one). Anyways, was going to see 1917 with the family but the times just didn't work out, and it was my son who pointed out the theater had a promising showtime for Parasite. My parents took my nieces to Jumanji, and kiddo and I saw Parasite. When we left, he just looked at me in awe and was like "That was the best movie of the year."

Funny though, it was my 2nd time, so when he asked me he seemed like he thought I'd say no because I'd seen it already. I just told him "It would be a privilege to see Parasite in theaters a second time." And it was.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on February 26, 2020, 02:36:31 PM
HOW did I not pick up on that basketball analogy and theme?
The halftime bit is amazing to me.
The more I think about it, the more I like it. I might have to watch it again.

Isn't that article just a ton of fun? So cool.

It's stuff like that which is why I enjoyed Mother! so much in 2017. I love movies that are so open to interpretations.

I actually haven't seen Mother yet because of the mixed reviews, but now maybe Ill give it a look.

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on February 26, 2020, 03:10:15 PM
HOW did I not pick up on that basketball analogy and theme?
The halftime bit is amazing to me.
The more I think about it, the more I like it. I might have to watch it again.

Isn't that article just a ton of fun? So cool.

It's stuff like that which is why I enjoyed Mother! so much in 2017. I love movies that are so open to interpretations.

I actually haven't seen Mother yet because of the mixed reviews, but now maybe Ill give it a look.


Is it a religious allegory? A warning about climate change? A commentary on the pitfalls of fame and celebrity? IS IT ALL OF THESE AND EVEN MORE I HAVEN'T THOUGHT OF/FORGOTTEN ABOUT SINCE SEEING THE MOVIE? MAYBE!

I really need to rewatch it. Another one the fiancee hated, haha.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on February 26, 2020, 03:14:21 PM
HOW did I not pick up on that basketball analogy and theme?
The halftime bit is amazing to me.
The more I think about it, the more I like it. I might have to watch it again.

Isn't that article just a ton of fun? So cool.

It's stuff like that which is why I enjoyed Mother! so much in 2017. I love movies that are so open to interpretations.

I actually haven't seen Mother yet because of the mixed reviews, but now maybe Ill give it a look.


Is it a religious allegory? A warning about climate change? A commentary on the pitfalls of fame and celebrity? IS IT ALL OF THESE AND EVEN MORE I HAVEN'T THOUGHT OF/FORGOTTEN ABOUT SINCE SEEING THE MOVIE? MAYBE!

I really need to rewatch it. Another one the fiancee hated, haha.

lol sounds like an exciting union ;-)
seriously though, I liked discussing films with my SO that she didnt like and I did because it offered view points I may not have considered.
But now all I have is my dog, and you guys lol
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on February 26, 2020, 03:19:31 PM
I agree, she helps stop me from gatekeeping and being open to views that oppose mine when it comes to film, heh. Which is also something I'm hoping to work on in my podcast (hopefully might get a test episode done this weekend with Uncut Gems as our guinea pig, as my buddy hasn't seen it yet).


I'll go ahead and tell this story, because I'm just a strange fella.

So, around Thanksgiving last year, that movie "Last Christmas" comes out, with Khaleesi and the Crazy Rich Asians guy. SPOILER for anyone who hasn't seen it, but the big twist is that we learn the CRA guy is actually Khaleesi's hallucination basically, because the previous Christmas she received a heart transplant, and it was from him ("Last christmas, I gave you my heart").

Naturally, being EXTREMELY online in internet movie communities, I learned of the twist pretty quick (plus, the trailer basically confirmed it already), but she doesn't watch trailers and doesn't care about movies at all basically (she enjoys watching them but doesn't obsess like I do), so she had no idea. I had to convince her to see the movie still, and fortunately, her sister was visiting and wanted to see it, so it was easy to do.

Which is to say: I literally paid $70+ with tickets and concessions to take me, her, her sister and her sister's boyfriend, just so I could see my fiancee's reaction to the twist. 100% worth it too, she just goes "WHAT?!" and started laughing (most of the theater did too), so it was pretty great.

My priorities are really weird.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on February 26, 2020, 03:26:50 PM
lol I can appreciate that story, and dude! you're starting a podcast??

ive been thinking about having one for a while now but am having trouble narrowing down the subject matter.
At times I want an all encompassing entertainment show, other times, just devoted to movies, and sometimes even more detailed just particular scenes.
I haven't looked in to it yet, but Im guessing you could have a two person podcast without being in the same location because Ive also considered one with a friend who lives in StL
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on February 26, 2020, 04:48:49 PM
lol I can appreciate that story, and dude! you're starting a podcast??

ive been thinking about having one for a while now but am having trouble narrowing down the subject matter.
At times I want an all encompassing entertainment show, other times, just devoted to movies, and sometimes even more detailed just particular scenes.
I haven't looked in to it yet, but Im guessing you could have a two person podcast without being in the same location because Ive also considered one with a friend who lives in StL


Yeah, the plan is me and a buddy calling each other over the phone, preferably with headsets, and recording our own selves on our PCs. That way, when we're done, he can just send me his audio file, and I can sync them up together and do edits from there where necessary. That's why we want to do a test episode, to see how practical any of this is vs theoretical.


As far as the concept, I may have mentioned it before, but the idea is "What Did We Miss" and it's all about movies we missed in theaters and just have never seen since. Preferably will be doing a lot of older movies, but since this is just a test episode, we're going with Uncut Gems since he hasn't seen it yet.

If, by some matter of fate, it blows up, I intend to do a Patreon with "What Did You Miss," which would be more of a typical "new release review" movie podcast, as well as other episodes focused around cult movies we love (After Hours, Rubber, Street Trash, etc), and possibly an entirely different spin-off with a similar premise: Doing a Bojack Horseman episode-by-episode podcast, since my friend has never watched it and I have watched and rewatched it many, many times.

Eventually, after the wedding and honeymoon and everything when I have far, far more money, I want to get actual, proper mics for recording and whatever other equipment I may need, which is why this is just a "test" to sort of understand the rhythms of our conversation in this podcast context while also testing the editing side and such. Should be fun!
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on February 26, 2020, 09:26:39 PM
I'm dumb. I said Icarus in reference to The Lighthouse earlier. I meant Prometheus.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on February 26, 2020, 09:36:52 PM
lol I can appreciate that story, and dude! you're starting a podcast??

ive been thinking about having one for a while now but am having trouble narrowing down the subject matter.
At times I want an all encompassing entertainment show, other times, just devoted to movies, and sometimes even more detailed just particular scenes.
I haven't looked in to it yet, but Im guessing you could have a two person podcast without being in the same location because Ive also considered one with a friend who lives in StL

Yeah, the plan is me and a buddy calling each other over the phone, preferably with headsets, and recording our own selves on our PCs. That way, when we're done, he can just send me his audio file, and I can sync them up together and do edits from there where necessary. That's why we want to do a test episode, to see how practical any of this is vs theoretical.


As far as the concept, I may have mentioned it before, but the idea is "What Did We Miss" and it's all about movies we missed in theaters and just have never seen since. Preferably will be doing a lot of older movies, but since this is just a test episode, we're going with Uncut Gems since he hasn't seen it yet.

If, by some matter of fate, it blows up, I intend to do a Patreon with "What Did You Miss," which would be more of a typical "new release review" movie podcast, as well as other episodes focused around cult movies we love (After Hours, Rubber, Street Trash, etc), and possibly an entirely different spin-off with a similar premise: Doing a Bojack Horseman episode-by-episode podcast, since my friend has never watched it and I have watched and rewatched it many, many times.

Eventually, after the wedding and honeymoon and everything when I have far, far more money, I want to get actual, proper mics for recording and whatever other equipment I may need, which is why this is just a "test" to sort of understand the rhythms of our conversation in this podcast context while also testing the editing side and such. Should be fun!

yea I need to investigate what sort of startup costs there will be because I cant go overboard on another hobby. Im hoping some of my equipment could be used but I sincerely doubt it. If yo get into looking before me, post about it :-)
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on March 09, 2020, 02:24:28 PM
Busy weekend for me. Lets go in reverse order, shall we?

The Way Back

I'm trying to support the studio "mid-programmers," movies that would have been far more widely talked about back in the 90s than they are today, where seemingly only franchises are allowed headlines anymore. This one's a simple story about an alcoholic trying to find...well, the way back.

Most of what I'd read on it said it's a fairly by the numbers movie, and it is. It looks like a type of "the kids help the coach, the coach helps the kids" thing, but he never really helps the kids at anything more than basketball, and the basketball sort of helps him more than the kids do, so it really is just the story of this one guy. And I liked it better for it.

Considering the personal aspects that run parallel to Affleck's own troubles, it becomes an intriguing character study. Affleck's performance is really the only thing carrying the movie, as every other character is one-note.

All-in-all, I did like the movie. Again, it's nothing mind-blowing, and probably will be treated for most as a "watch when it's on netflix" type, especially with coronavirus fears right now, but worth seeing in theaters should you get the chance.



The Invisible Man

This is EXACTLY how you remake a movie. Taking a classic IP, updating it to modern times and using it to explore modern themes rather than just retell the same story again and again.

If you've seen the trailer, you sort of know the drill: Elizabeth Moss escapes from her abusive husband, only for him to kill himself. Or did he,as a...phantom menace...now seems to be stalking her around. And nobody believes her, of course.

There are stretches of this movie that are pretty slow, and your enjoyment may very depended on how tense you get staring at shadowy hallways or the empty corner of a room.

Moss' performance is fantastic, as expected. She's also been an excellent actress (I wasn't a fan of "The Kitchen," but Moss was easily the best part), and this movie's no exception. The supporting cast is good, not great, although they're not given much to do except telling Moss' character to "move on."

And while he doesn't get to do very much, the actor playing Adrian, the abusive husband (Oliver Jackson-Cohen, who was great in The Haunting of Hill House), but does enough with the time has to make you understand who Adrian was.

All-in-all, no surprise this one's a box office smash and a crowd pleaser.




Portrait of a Lady on Fire

Well, Uncut Gems is no longer my favorite movie of 2019.

Not even realizing this was an Oscar snub just about all around, it FINALLY came to theaters here, so the fiancee and I went on Friday (yup, I went to the theater three times this weekend. BRING IT, CORONAVIRUS).

A French-spoken film of which the only male characters are simply there to transport people to and from the island and have maybe 5 minutes of total screentime, Portrait of a Lady on Fire is an incredibly unique film. The four main characters, all women, are all free on this island, and yet the specter of the patriarchy haunts them.

Marianne arrives at an island, hired to paint a portrait of Heloise by Heloise's mother, La Comtesse. The portrait is intended to be delivered to a man in Milan who, if approving of the portrait, will marry Heloise, allowing La Comtesse to live in Milan as she's always dreamed. However, the previous painter, a man, was unable to get Heloise to pose.

As the film goes on we learn more of the bonds that women are bound by. I don't want to go into too much, as it's one of the few films I didn't read much about beforehand which made it a far more rewarding experience than my usual movie-going experience, but even when all the women on the island are set equally (there's a great friendship that develops between Heloise, Marianne and the servant girl Sophie), they still do not have freedom from choices made for them.

Just absolutely superb, with stellar direction by Celine Sciamma. A must watch.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on March 09, 2020, 02:54:03 PM
I am out of the loop. I haven't heard of any of those films  :o
A couple of those might interest me.

I sort of had a movie watch run myself....a few drive by thoughts...

Zombileland 2
it completely lost the feel and the attraction of the first one for me. I know its still a popular well liked film, but to me, it was just way too bland.
Sure, a lot of the jokes and exchanges were money. But the doppelgšnger characters were just too much.
The additional character of Zoey Deutch was fine as Madison but Avon Jogiea as Berkely was weak and annoying.
Rosario Dawson is a plus in any film, but couldn't save this one for me.
It was ok, not great.

Rope
Hitchcock reared up during my weekend as he does occasionally and I love this film.
When narcissism, arrogance and murder are a theme, Im in.
The fact this film was one continuous shot in one room is simply amazing to me.

The Lady Vanishes
Ive only seen this one on Hitch's must see list of films but was always apprehensive. This weekend though, I dove in.
The first night takes place in a hotel room where our female lead (English tourist Margaret Lockwood) has (Michael Redgrave as Gilbert) tossed from his room for making too much noise. She has a friendly conversation in that moment with a Ms. Froy before retiring. After a verbal tussle in which they settle their dispute, the couple meets on the train headed to England.
Just prior, Iris (Lockwood) is accidentally bludgeoned with a flower pot on the train platform.
She is groggy but insists she be allowed on the train. Friendly and motherly, the elderly Ms. Froy says she will look after the girl.
Iris later wakes up on the train searching for her new found friend, only to discover no-one ever saw her board the train.
Now battling with her own sanity, Iris, along with Gilbert, who slowly believes her, retrace her steps while searching for Ms. Froy.
Great characters, and Hitchcock and trains man....
I really didnt think Id be much in to this film when it started as it was filmed in 1937, but it won me over.
I probably wouldn't recommend it to anyone here as I doubt it would have an appeal, except maybe buc, I dunno.
This was just me purging my long time list.

 

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on March 09, 2020, 02:57:13 PM
Oh man, I need to see The Lady Vanishes. They were talking about it briefly on The Next Picture Show podcast for Knives Out, since Knives Out reveals the actual murder (or, at least, why the person you immediately think did it, didn't) in a sort of turning the tables on the who-dunnit.

The point being made that, in The Lady Vanishes, as you stated, we, the audience, clearly know she met Ms. Foy, we've seen her, and it just raises the stakes that much more when nobody else believes her. I love that kind of tension.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on March 09, 2020, 02:59:18 PM
Oh man, I need to see The Lady Vanishes. They were talking about it briefly on The Next Picture Show podcast for Knives Out, since Knives Out reveals the actual murder (or, at least, why the person you immediately think did it, didn't) in a sort of turning the tables on the who-dunnit.

The point being made that, in The Lady Vanishes, as you stated, we, the audience, clearly know she met Ms. Foy, we've seen her, and it just raises the stakes that much more when nobody else believes her. I love that kind of tension.

you pretty much got it :-)
And I loved Knives Out!
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on March 16, 2020, 11:23:48 PM
So I blew through Chinatown again last night.
Still love that flick. Just sayin....
Forget it Jake, it's Chinatown
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on March 21, 2020, 04:06:34 PM
Terminator: Dark Fate
Linda Hamilton, Arnie

Let me put you at ease if you dont already know. This film is a direct sequel to T2 and omits all the bullshit movies after it.

So this movie is, well, T2. The structure of the story is the same and as you know, some of the characters (Hamilton and Arnie) are the same and that's not always a bad thing.
We begin by seeing Sarah Connor's meltdown in the psych ward in T2 then jump to 1998 where we pick up Natalia Reyes who plays Daniella (Dani) Ramos, another nobody who has no clue. Sound familiar?
Following protocol, we then see the arrival of the protector, (Mackenzie Davis) Grace, who is a hybrid between human and machine.
Then comes Gabriel Luna as Gabriel, oddly enough, a Rev 9 Terminator.
We follow Dani in the spirit of T2, both future characters seeking her out, explaining what's happening while trying to survive the wrath of Gabe.
Now don't think this is a scene for scene remake because it isn't, it is in fact it's own story with the universe dictating similarities in the storytelling because the machines are executing the same plan as before, just on steroids.

Linda Hamilton represses her role as Sarah Connor who is now a wanted outlaw, but she's also a Terminator terminator.
How she knows what she knows is a mystery for a while, but in the meantime, Hamilton has seemingly no trouble charging back in to the character of Sarah. Being able to remain a heroine while passing the torch if you will, is something that is done quite well in this film. Ms. Connor fills in the holes between T2 and now while recognizing Dani's sitch is very similar to hers, keeping with the overall structure. At least it's not ignored.

Mackenzie Davis does a decent job most of the time. I think the parts that don't look so fluid are from trying to be too aggressive with CGI but that's just me I guess. I dont like the way she interprets Grace on screenful the time but its passable and not detrimental to the film.
Gabriel Luna is pretty much the same sans dialog as he doesn't speak much. You can tell they searched for a look akin to Robert Patrick in T2 and I think they found the Latino version, although Patrick was much better in his role I think.

Spoiler: show
You'll notice I've left out Arnold's role and that's because I couldn't find a way to discuss him with out revealing potential spoilers about him killing John or his role with the new team. I thought he did a wonderful job though, this film has everything you would expect from Arnie, including some of the best lines. I also love the fact the director pauses on him in key scenes where you just wait for his killer catchphrase, but then we cut away without hearing it. Beautiful.


Obviously there are some nods to the previous film and as I noted before, you can't not acknowledge that as it's all one story. The director really handled some potential campy scenes really really well in that respect and it made the film that much better.
As for the action, it's about what you would expect and again, similarities to 2, but hey, what can you do?
Some minor parts were kinda eye rolling in their quest for raising the CGI bar, but overall, it was well constructed, especially when you discover the Terminator can...well, you'll see.

Give this one a look, but before you do, plant yourself firmly in the mind of just having seen T2 and ignore all that shit after because it doesn't apply, at all.


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Rambo: Last Blood
Sly

I grew up with Rocky and Rambo and Star Wars and that's why I continually watch the sequels, even if some are better than others.
First Blood was an unexpected accepted movie for its depiction of soldiers resources for acclimatizing to society and for dealing with PTSD.
part II etc...not so much.
However, Rambo (2008) was good. We really were given some insight and development in the Rambo character, and more importantly, he had help this time. As gory as it was, it was still a good flick I thought. Incidentally, there were one or two deleted scenes that were only a couple of minutes that really added depth to the story and would have made it a much better film, but I digress.
Why do I bring all of this up?
Because Rambo is where this series should have ended.
Last Blood is awful. Every cliched plot device is weak and dry as it can be. If foreshadowing in this film were say, in a poker hand, it would be the stooge.
There's just nothing redeemable about this movie unless you just want a mindless revenge filled rage fest.
At least John Wick has depth, and much more realistic action I might add. Matter of fact, go watch those films and ignore this one altogether.
If you want Rambo, watch First Blood or Rambo 2008 and ignore the rest, especially this one.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on March 22, 2020, 09:49:59 AM
Was curious about Dark Fate. Not sure I like that they apparently erased everything after T2 since I actually thought T3 was decent (the other two after that by all means erase), but can see how that would make for a much different story. I'll have to check it out down the road.

John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum
Keanu Reeves, Halle Berry, Laurence Fishburne, Ian McShane, Mark Dacascos[/i]

This might be my favorite out of the three. So damn good and so damn entertaining. Halle Berry still looking fine, too. The fight choreography does not disappoint at all.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on March 22, 2020, 02:31:44 PM
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I may take up the "RememberThisPod Challenge" while in quarantine. I need to watch more older movies.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on March 22, 2020, 02:45:31 PM
Was curious about Dark Fate. Not sure I like that they apparently erased everything after T2 since I actually thought T3 was decent (the other two after that by all means erase), but can see how that would make for a much different story. I'll have to check it out down the road.

John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum
Keanu Reeves, Halle Berry, Laurence Fishburne, Ian McShane, Mark Dacascos[/i]

This might be my favorite out of the three. So damn good and so damn entertaining. Halle Berry still looking fine, too. The fight choreography does not disappoint at all.

You'd like DF  :)

Im sure Id like Wick 3, Ive been meaning to watch that, maybe it'll be in my rotation the next day or two.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on March 22, 2020, 02:46:13 PM
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I may take up the "RememberThisPod Challenge" while in quarantine. I need to watch more older movies.

Ive been doing this...not the challenge, but watching older movies, re igniting my Hitchcock fare as well.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on May 03, 2020, 07:32:45 PM
Been on a DC Animated run the last few weeks. Their animated team has consistently done something they haven't been able to do for the live-action DCU ever since Christopher Nolan and Christian Bale ended their Dark Knight trilogy: put out decent stuff.

The Death of Superman

IIRC this is the third time Superman's death has been covered (Superman v. Doomsday was garbage, and Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice wasn't much better), and this is the one that comes closest to the amazing source material. They did great work on the animation and the voices just fit for all the characters, even though when I hear Rainn Wilson's voice he strikes me more as Dwight than Lex Luthor lol. Amazing job setting up the story too and some of the emotional threads that went along with it. Happy to finally see this storyline get the proper film adaptation it deserved.
4.25 out of 5


The Reign of the Supermen

Takes place 6-months after Death of Superman, and jumps right in to where some of the new "Supermen" started showing up in Metropolis. I honestly don't remember as much from this storyline as I did for Death of so I can't tell you how close it comes to the original source (although it seems familiar). Pays some lip service to how Lois and some of the Justice League are dealing with the loss but almost too conveniently wraps that up in a little bow. Didn't find this one as good as the first one, but still worth a watch I feel.
3.75 out of 5


Red Son

What if Kal-El's ship hadn't crashed into a small farm in Kansas, but instead in to Soviet Bloc country? That's the alternate universe the storyline in the comic and movie covers. Really was looking forward to this one ever since I read the comic a few years ago (you should really check it out), and the movie adaptation delivered.
4.0 out of 5


Batman: Hush

This storyline dropped in the comics a few years ago and was really hard to put down. The animated film also stays pretty true to the story. That's about all I want to say about it because I can't recommend the graphic novel enough. Check 'em both out.
4.5 out of 5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on May 12, 2020, 02:52:01 PM
Oh hell yes!! Can't wait to be in The Room Where It Happens when this drops; seen it twice in Chicago and the opportunity to get to watch the original cast do this is something I've been looking forward to! Even if you're not a fan of musicals, I can't recommend this one enough. While it's a bit of a bummer this won't hit the big screen like it was initially supposed to, it's awesome that they're moving up the release date to this July 3rd instead of October 2021.

https://ew.com/movies/hamilton-movie-disney-plus/
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on May 12, 2020, 02:53:59 PM
I haven't listened to a single song from Hamilton or watched any bootleg stuff. I wanted to either see the original cast or at least catch it live. Guess I finally get to be enlightened come July.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on May 12, 2020, 05:39:50 PM
Meant to post this earlier, but it's longer so I didn't want to do it on my phone, and then as my work laptop is my only laptop I've been waiting for a free moment, haha.

So, originally was supposed to get married April 25, in PA, but that didn't happen. The time off I would've had for that instead became a staycation. Was nice, not working and just hanging out with the fiancee the whole time, and we played a LOT of Don't Starve Together on the PS4.

However, I needed to do something different at least ONE of the days of vacation. My buddy and I once did a 24 hour horror movie marathon, but that's too much, so instead we just programmed a little four-feature film day with a theme of Hollywood/LA/movies. Just so happened also that we'd never seen any of the films we had chosen. In order of us watching:


Lost in La Mancha

Wow. I've heard this movie was sort of brutal, but goodness. Lost in La Mancha is a documentary made when Terry Gilliam attempted to film his Don Quixote movie (one of many times he attempted to film it). Initially it's meant to just be a straight forward documentary, but as the production becomes more and more snakebitten, it starts feeling more like The Office real fast. Was very interesting, Gilliam doesn't come off great but it's hard to not feel bad for him, and goodness Johnny Depp is so young.

4/5 stars


Sunset Boulevard

A struggling screenwriter has a chance encounter with a former Hollywood starlet who pins her hope for a comeback on him. Mind games and pettiness abound. Sunset Boulevard is a classic, and this being my first time watching it (admittedly I did not know the ending),  I was pretty surprised by some of the twists and turns. There's a reason it's a classic, and it did not disappoint.

4/5 stars



The Player

Robert Altman's The Player. I had actually tried watching this once before when I was younger, but I think it was late or something. The amount of cameos alone make this movie worth it for any movie lover, but going back and seeing a young Vincent D'Onofrio was its own rewarding experience, haha. A very playful, strangely meta (for its time) movie that holds up today, minus the lack of superheros on the movie lots.

Tim Robbins plays a movie producer being blackmailed by a writer he rejected. That's the plot. However, naturally, there's twists and turns and more to it than that.

Also, funnily enough, there's one Sunset Boulevard reference in a spoken line of dialogue, so that was a fun treat.


3.5/5 stars


Mulholland Dr

For our final film, we left the bright lights of Hollywood and went more for the seedy underbelly of LA. A girl awakes with amnesia and can't seem to remember who she is. Along the way, we do meet a film director and some aspiring actors/actresses, but this movie is less concerned with that and is mostly just David Lynch absolutely screwing with the heads of his audience, as far as I can tell. Did it keep my attention? Sure did. Do I understand what the hell happened? No sir, I do not. I blame myself, although, in doing some research after, it seems like the movie has thrown everyone for a loop and Lynch refuses to explain it.


3/5 stars
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on May 13, 2020, 12:49:52 AM
Sorry to hear about the canceled vows, that sucks. And to that end, I had no idea you were engaged lol Congrats!

A film festival is always a good idea  :D
While reading that I was wondering, surely he's seen LA Confidential? Right?
Mulholland can be rewarding, kind of, or not lol I see you fell right in the middle
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on June 21, 2020, 10:51:41 PM
If you're just starting to realize "wow, Norm's really looking forward to this", then you haven't been paying attention at all. Lol.

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on August 22, 2020, 09:21:31 PM
https://news.avclub.com/robert-pattinson-solves-some-riddles-beats-some-clowns-1844816169?_ga=2.13302007.1979591935.1595258308-amp-h5XijQZYRCcpBwk5-1GqXpAiMtSF6kfZ9_r5zWtsPTX9T-Gx73jzaBOGhsJt3VTp

I am Jack's undying anticipation
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on August 22, 2020, 09:38:39 PM
Was just coming in to post this trailer. I like it...feels more like a crime thriller.

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on August 22, 2020, 09:42:16 PM
The trailer for the Snyder Cut of Justice League was also released today. Not linking to that because whatever lol...I'm pretty sure I've made my opinion on him known more than once or twice. That shit's supposed to be 3.5 hours long too.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on August 22, 2020, 10:25:01 PM
The trailer for the Snyder Cut of Justice League was also released today. Not linking to that because whatever lol...I'm pretty sure I've made my opinion on him known more than once or twice. That shit's supposed to be 3.5 hours long too.

The trailer felt 3.5 hours long.

Wonder Woman was the only thing that kept my interest in DCU at all.
Couldn't get through BvS, never even gave JL a look.
As far as this one goes, honestly, Im just about Batmanned out. Im sure Ill die it a look.
But you ever see something in a trailer that just makes you say, nope?
The quick Zoe Kravitz "fight" scene not only failed to impress but reminded me of the crappy wire work in Charlie's Angels.
Come at me...
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on August 22, 2020, 11:12:07 PM
1917


I was looking forward to this film quite a bit and what you'll notice right away is that there's not a lot for the editor of this project to do as Mendes directs it as one 2 hour tracking shot which is quite amazing.
I don't want to say it was gimmicky but there were times where traditional edits would have helped the story. Almost as if it was more important to maintain the style of filmmaking vs the story. And Im not saying that just to be a disention vote regarding an outstanding project, but I think most people would agree.
At the same time, it isn't a roadblock for the film either.
The score, to me, was good but it didnt really compliment the film if that makes sense? There were scenes where the music was quite tired and cliched leaving you just kinda, aw man.
But then, you're over it pretty quickly.
Speaking of quickly, the exposition is laid out in quite the expedient fashion and we are off and running in a tense first act.
Some good storytelling, some great plot devices, some not so great, but those are minimal.
Ive heard some say the characters didnt grow and I like to think that in a story such as this, there's really no time. War is fast, furious, adrenaline inducing and exhausting. There's time for growth later.
We learn about them, their buildup and their motivations and their actions drive the story and we, orI, care about them and their mission.
In a nutshell, it's almost akin to Saving Private Ryan in that a couple of soldiers need to make their way to the front lines that are supposed to be clear, or maybe not, of Germans. Tasked with warning a Colonel about a trap regarding a raid he is preparing is the protagonist's chief concern. Secondarily, one of the two men has a brother in that outfit and does not want him walking in to a setup.
It's simplistic in its idea, get from point A to point B, but in wa,well, good luck.
I liked this film and I believe you should give it a look because it's more than worthy.

4.25/5

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on August 24, 2020, 11:17:05 AM
My brother and I had a discussion last week, and he mentioned that since this pandemic started he's watched a ton of movies and tv shows, so much so that he started using the TV Time app to kind of keep track of what he's watched...it was a lot.

Naturally, I decided to go back and see what I've watched in this time frame...yeah, not as much. Even if I add in random movies that I found playing while flipping through channels (John Wick Chapter 1, Independence Day, Infinity War, Endgame, Revenge of the Sith, etc.) it doesn't add up to a lot.

Movies
John Wick Chapter 3
The Death of Superman
The Reign of the Supermen
Superman: Red Son
Batman: Hush
Birds of Prey
Hamilton (3 times)

TV Series
maybe 3 episodes of Jack Ryan S2
The Clone Wars (all of S1 and about 10 episodes of S2)...I can't recommend this series enough
2 episodes of Stranger Things S2
2 episodes from West Wing S3
a few episodes from Parks & Rec
a few episodes from The Good Place...I can't recommend this series enough either, and the last season hits Netflix near the end of September
one episode from The Office S6

My watching habits are dictated by my mood lol.

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on August 24, 2020, 12:59:50 PM
My watching habits are dictated by my mood lol.

This is me to a T. All during quarantine I've thought to myself "I could catch up on SO MANY MOVIES," but then I sit there like, "Doesn't the pandemic have me depressed enough, do I really want to watch Chinatown or The Deer Hunter on top of everything happening in real life?"

And then I put The Office on.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on August 24, 2020, 08:46:53 PM
My watching habits are dictated by my mood lol.

This is me to a T. All during quarantine I've thought to myself "I could catch up on SO MANY MOVIES," but then I sit there like, "Doesn't the pandemic have me depressed enough, do I really want to watch Chinatown or The Deer Hunter on top of everything happening in real life?"

And then I put The Office on.


lol

I've made tremendous progress on my entertainment during quarantine, so much so, Ive run out of things to watch. I mean I still have a NF list but that's not really must see, I guess more along with y'all, depends on my mood.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Rigg44 on August 26, 2020, 02:48:45 PM
Powers

I watched the new Jamie Foxx vehicle on Netflix this weekend and was underwhelmed. It was for the most part well-acted and the concept is ok but not that original.  The basic idea is there is a street drug called power you can take to gain a superpower that power is unknown until you take the pill. Once the pill is consumed you will either get a power or spontaneously explode. After you get past that concept and all it entails its essentially and vengeful father/ cop that operates outside the lines team-up.  Don't get me wrong it will fill a slow Saturday afternoon and you won't hate that you watched it but its nothing special.

On a scale of 5 with 5 being the best Ill give it a 3.5/5  worth a watch but that's about it 
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on September 07, 2020, 06:14:30 PM
Old Guard
Charlize Theron

First things first, I didnt know this was a comic book but figured it had at least that vibe to it after seeing the trailer.
With me being a serious Charlize mark, I had to check it out.

Andy (Theron) leads a band of four immortal soldiers whose goal is to try to not just save people, but the right people. Once who can help underprivileged or the world as a whole.
Our first glimpse of these soldiers is the opening scene where we see them being killed. Relax, that cant be a spoiler if its the opening scene, can it?
We know little of what is going on or where we are in their journey but we soon see that they have these matching dreams that alerts them of another.
A new arrival to their world, another immortal.
Andy sets out to find her (KiKi Layne) because her and the others had discussed how alone and scared they were when they discovered their survivability.
A few issues I have, which are pointless overall, and I realize I am walking on eggshells here, but we first meet Nile (Layne) with her platoon in Afghanistan. she is part of an all female squad and it just seems so obviously served up it retracted from the movie for me. It was more of a "girl power" thing than a plot point. In any event, they are told to breach a home which they do in a seriously ridiculous manner, and that's when Nile discovers her new reality.
See? I'm just being an asshole, right?

I noted some reviews where people mentioned portions of this two hour ride were clunky and slow. Uhh, ever see a super hero movie before sport?
But, I disagree here. The conversations were poignant, well delivered by likable characters, mostly, and were brief enough to contribute without dragging you in to a nap.
The fights senes were good, you know, super hero-sh...nothing like watching that train wreck ScarJo flying around on wires, but still very slick with a twinge of believability in them.
The really cool thing about this film to me, and again, I had no prior knowledge of these characters via the comic books, was the fact that while they were
Spoiler: show
"immortal" they were still human. And I mean human in the sense, they could be captured, tortured, imprisoned etc...
It wasn't like they were all a Captain Marvel who can't even get a hangnail.

So for me, it added a very real sense to the characters.
The ending was a splendid one which I really enjoyed and
Spoiler: show
I also saw somewhere that it was mentioned there "might be" a sequel forthcoming...Did you SEE the end? They literally just TOLD you in big black and white letters that a toddler could understand, yes, there will be a sequel.


So yea, check this one out.

4/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on September 10, 2020, 08:58:57 AM

I'm intrigued by this one. Saw the original take when it was released and it put me to sleep; since then I've had no desire to rewatch it and hadn't read the books either.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on September 11, 2020, 06:26:29 PM
https://news.avclub.com/nintendo-and-sega-documentary-console-wars-hits-cbs-all-1845030266

I'm not exactly about to sign up for CBS All-Access for one documentary, but I do want to see this. The novel is so perfect.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on September 11, 2020, 08:11:25 PM
I dont have to see it, I lived it lol  :D

Kidding! Id like to see it too, but ill find it elsewhere
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on September 11, 2020, 08:11:53 PM
I dont have to see it, I lived it lol  :D

Kidding! Id like to see it too, but ill find it elsewhere


Yeah, I'll either sign up for a free trial to watch it or go other routes if that's not an option.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on September 11, 2020, 10:27:56 PM
Looking forward to watching that, book was incredible.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on September 13, 2020, 10:54:30 PM
I just finished the two season run of OA on Netflix, but Im not here to talk about that specifically.
Can we discuss how giants like this are constantly killing creativity in the second golden age of television?
Im still livid over Deadwood. They say because of the cost of the show, but then they let shit like GoT go on forever which is more expensive than a CGI infected super hero movie.
Sorry if you are a GoT fan but cmon, that show was shit after a couple of seasons.
Stuffed shirts have been murdering the music industry and individuality since Elvis, and they spoon fed MTV and radio just about every conceivable steaming pile of shit they could inhale in the 80's, 90's and 2000's.
Finally, artists have more control now and really, good for them.
Not so much in favor of NF, HBO, etc content creators now.
They single handedly ruined Dexter because they thought they knew better where the story should go, you know, rather than the fuckers that actually created it.

If you dont know, and I didnt either, but OA was presented to have a 4-5 season arc and NF was on board but after just two seasons, fans are left with an absolute unfinished mess after just two seasons. Well, they did get ole gee whiz apology from NF. We love this show and look forward to working with this team again in the future (so we can continually fuck them over)
It was really sad to hear  Brit Marling (producer, writer and star of OA) discuss the sudden ending.
Let's hope NF at least has the decency to allow someone else to come in and pick it up.

I just dont get why some cash cows are left on the ground and others arent. well, yes I do...see Dexter.
To paraphrase George Carlin, some stuffed shirt felt like someone challenge the size of his dick, so he had to cancel the show.

And the billionaires wonder why people pirate their shit?

ok, I fell better now.


Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on September 20, 2020, 10:52:49 PM
The Social Dilemma

I have friends...hell, family members, who I deem close minded, closet racist assholes. Some of whom are highly educated, which blows my fucking mind when I hear the shit they spew.
I'm keeping this friendly here to try to get you to objectively watch The Social Dilemma.
in a nutshell, you have these movers and shakers of the tech industry discussing how social apps have run amok and it's literally like the machines have taken over ala Terminator. Only not with brazen violence. Not by the machines themselves anyway.
This presentation is not even calling the corporate giants, Facebook, Google et al, evil per se. I feel like it's a fairly impartial look at how society has reacted to the social media take over, zoomers in particular, since they are the first generation to literally grow up with this tech.
I tell people, even my moronic dipshit close minded asshole family members to give this a look and to be honest with themselves as I was with myself.
And let's have a conversation.
Please.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on September 21, 2020, 07:23:40 PM
That's definitely on my list.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Rigg44 on September 22, 2020, 12:09:12 PM
The Social Dilemma

I have friends...hell, family members, who I deem close minded, closet racist assholes. Some of whom are highly educated, which blows my fucking mind when I hear the shit they spew.
I'm keeping this friendly here to try to get you to objectively watch The Social Dilemma.
in a nutshell, you have these movers and shakers of the tech industry discussing how social apps have run amok and it's literally like the machines have taken over ala Terminator. Only not with brazen violence. Not by the machines themselves anyway.
This presentation is not even calling the corporate giants, Facebook, Google et al, evil per se. I feel like it's a fairly impartial look at how society has reacted to the social media take over, zoomers in particular, since they are the first generation to literally grow up with this tech.
I tell people, even my moronic dipshit close minded asshole family members to give this a look and to be honest with themselves as I was with myself.
And let's have a conversation.
Please.

This was a great watch.  The good point is that is showed that the manipulation has moved both the right and left further to the edges.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 08, 2020, 11:53:09 PM
This will be a quickie, but the NF doc 24 Hour War is worth a watch if you are a racing fan.
There was also the movie, if you are just a casual fan, Ford vs Ferrari with Damon and Bale that was really good at telling this story too.
The doc covers how 24 Hours @ Le Mans came to be and how big racing really was, people just dont realize today.
So it moves kinda quick until it gets to the meaty part which is Ford v Ferrari in the 60's.
It delves in to the management of both Ford and Ferrari, the racers, engineers etc.
Interviews with some of those guys still alive today adds to the emotion and realism of what they are discussing.
If you want entertainment, go with the movie. It's pretty accurate and well told.
If you've seen that and want more, go to the doc, it was worth it to me, especially seeing all the old footage.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Rigg44 on October 09, 2020, 10:54:43 AM
This will be a quickie, but the NF doc 24 Hour War is worth a watch if you are a racing fan.
There was also the movie, if you are just a casual fan, Ford vs Ferrari with Damon and Bale that was really good at telling this story too.
The doc covers how 24 Hours @ Le Mans came to be and how big racing really was, people just dont realize today.
So it moves kinda quick until it gets to the meaty part which is Ford v Ferrari in the 60's.
It delves in to the management of both Ford and Ferrari, the racers, engineers etc.
Interviews with some of those guys still alive today adds to the emotion and realism of what they are discussing.
If you want entertainment, go with the movie. It's pretty accurate and well told.
If you've seen that and want more, go to the doc, it was worth it to me, especially seeing all the old footage.

Both the documentary and the movie are worth watching.  They were very well done.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 09, 2020, 01:11:38 PM
This will be a quickie, but the NF doc 24 Hour War is worth a watch if you are a racing fan.
There was also the movie, if you are just a casual fan, Ford vs Ferrari with Damon and Bale that was really good at telling this story too.
The doc covers how 24 Hours @ Le Mans came to be and how big racing really was, people just dont realize today.
So it moves kinda quick until it gets to the meaty part which is Ford v Ferrari in the 60's.
It delves in to the management of both Ford and Ferrari, the racers, engineers etc.
Interviews with some of those guys still alive today adds to the emotion and realism of what they are discussing.
If you want entertainment, go with the movie. It's pretty accurate and well told.
If you've seen that and want more, go to the doc, it was worth it to me, especially seeing all the old footage.

Both the documentary and the movie are worth watching.  They were very well done.

 :D
You a big race fan?
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Rigg44 on October 12, 2020, 03:48:50 PM
This will be a quickie, but the NF doc 24 Hour War is worth a watch if you are a racing fan.
There was also the movie, if you are just a casual fan, Ford vs Ferrari with Damon and Bale that was really good at telling this story too.
The doc covers how 24 Hours @ Le Mans came to be and how big racing really was, people just dont realize today.
So it moves kinda quick until it gets to the meaty part which is Ford v Ferrari in the 60's.
It delves in to the management of both Ford and Ferrari, the racers, engineers etc.
Interviews with some of those guys still alive today adds to the emotion and realism of what they are discussing.
If you want entertainment, go with the movie. It's pretty accurate and well told.
If you've seen that and want more, go to the doc, it was worth it to me, especially seeing all the old footage.

Both the documentary and the movie are worth watching.  They were very well done.

 :D
You a big race fan?

Not really but I like a good documentary and a good movie and both fit that bill.  Not to mention this story had a David vs goliath spin, America vs. Europe spin , sticktuitivness vs pessimism spin to it, all of which appeal to me so... I like racing in a passing sort of way but I really just like a well made historically based story.   
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 12, 2020, 06:18:41 PM
This will be a quickie, but the NF doc 24 Hour War is worth a watch if you are a racing fan.
There was also the movie, if you are just a casual fan, Ford vs Ferrari with Damon and Bale that was really good at telling this story too.
The doc covers how 24 Hours @ Le Mans came to be and how big racing really was, people just dont realize today.
So it moves kinda quick until it gets to the meaty part which is Ford v Ferrari in the 60's.
It delves in to the management of both Ford and Ferrari, the racers, engineers etc.
Interviews with some of those guys still alive today adds to the emotion and realism of what they are discussing.
If you want entertainment, go with the movie. It's pretty accurate and well told.
If you've seen that and want more, go to the doc, it was worth it to me, especially seeing all the old footage.

Both the documentary and the movie are worth watching.  They were very well done.

 :D
You a big race fan?

Not really but I like a good documentary and a good movie and both fit that bill.  Not to mention this story had a David vs goliath spin, America vs. Europe spin , sticktuitivness vs pessimism spin to it, all of which appeal to me so... I like racing in a passing sort of way but I really just like a well made historically based story.

Im on board with that opinion. I felt it had a bit of crossover appeal but Im biased so I wasnt sure
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 19, 2020, 03:42:46 PM
Trial of the Chicago 7
Sacha Baron Cohen, Joseph Gordon-Levitt

You know I love films based on true stories, docs and the like so I was eager to see this one.
I haven't done much reading about this though and what I had read I didnt retain all that well so this was to be even more of an experience.
This is the story about the trial of 7 (8 originally) defendants charged with crossing state lines to incite a riot during the Democratic National Convention in Chicago in 1968.
The underlying tone, which was true, was that it was a political witch hunt to stamp out the peace nicks, hippies and quell the protests so Nixon could steamroll forward with his agenda.
Nixon and current Attorney General (The Wire's John Doman) wanted "revenge" if you will because outgoing AG, Ramsey Clark (played beautifully by Michael Keaton) investigated and declined to pursue charges regarding the riots because he found no federal laws were broken.
Jason Gordon-Levitt plays Federal Prosecutor Richard Schultz who was handpicked to prosecute the case.
Sacha Baron Cohen plays rebel rouser Abbie Hoffman to a bonafide T in my opinion and has such great chemistry with the rest of the cast, matter of fact, they all seemed to gel pretty well.
I think though, Mark Rylance as William Kunstler was tremendous. His courtroom demeanor played well and above all, accurate, to me anyway. Obviously I wasnt there, but based on my court experiences, yea, just well done.

If you are familiar with Aaron Sorkin, you will recognize his work straight away, and if you are a fan of his, even moreso.
It was a well told story, interweaving real news footage with his film to reflect the tragedy and horror of what transpired, but at the same time, he doesnt hit you over the head with his message in these instances. The 7 really feels more lighthearted, almost like a buddy comedy. Relying on heavy dialog (hey, it's a trial AND Aaron Sorkin) and art direction to capture the essence of the era, Sorkin tees it up.

While watching this film I was noting certain things I wanted to check out, as I do with most 'based on a true story' presentations.
There were no real over the top cartoony like instances but there were some courtroom scenes where I told myself, no way.
Courtroom movies usually almost always bother me because they are almost always full of shit. However, when I looked this one up it turns out an abundance of information was taken from the court transcripts. Ok, wow. That happened.
I dont think Im spoiling this when I tell you it just so happens that Sorkin even toned down or omitted a few instances instead of cranking up the theatrics. I found that to be quite interesting.

The Trail of the Chicago Seven was a story that needed to be told. It's the perfect time for it because we are in a similar situation right now. Obviously we won't learn from it as we never learn from the past but still, it is an entertaining and informative watch that balances caustic and witty dialogue with tragedy anger and empathy.
Watch this and lets discuss

4.5/5

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 25, 2020, 01:52:59 AM
Every October, I dig in to my Halloween bag a flicks.
This go round was Halloween, such a good horror flick, setting the stage for others. Speaking of....

Friday the 13th
This film gets a lot of heat because of the sequels and that's unjust. The Friday franchise released a film every single year since the original all the way up to 87 I think, it was ridiculous and none of them were even remotely close to the original.
Now Im not suggesting it's a Hall of Fame feature. Well, maybe slasher HOF, but I digress.
Some of the early steadicam shots were pretty rough, especially watching it with a 2020 prism, but the rest of the camera work was pretty good in how it switched from POV to audience. The fade to black in lieu of cuts though, bad choice. It just killed the tension every time.
And why does every horror movie have the most unrealistic chase and/or fight scenes? Friday suffers from the latter, and to be fair, it is an older woman and an inexperienced actress <shrug>
However, it did have a reasonable chase scene. Something even....

the Scream franchise lacked.
Yea, I went through all four. Initially, I had watched one obviously, and II, but never even peaked at III or IV and I now know why.
Scream was great though. It mocked its own genre while embracing it at the same time. I loved the nostalgic references and making movie plots part of the plot was a bold move Cotton.
I really enjoyed the frantic nature of the killer chase scenes, but too often the speed in which the characters were moving given the distance between them, it just didnt flow as all the shots were put together. Some will say Im nitpicky, but those things ruin the immersion for me.
The fight scenes, however, were much better. A little overacted admittedly, ala the garage scene with Rose, I wanna be in the sequel, McGowan.
II was actually a good story and on its way to being a good follow up I thought, but then we had to go to drama class. II was also hindered by poor casting I thought. Laurie Metcalf, riding high from her Roseanne success, was not a good selection for Billy's mom. And I forget his name, but the fat kid, Vern from Stand By Me, remember him? Not a good option as the boyfriend. They both just didn't seem to fit the Scream world.
III was actually a good idea for a story. Easily concocted without bending or changing any plotlines from its predecessors, but oy, the telling of this story. Im not sure what happened to Wes Craven on this one, but it wasnt good and his editor also failed him. The less said about III, the better.
As for IV, I liked the story, and the plot paying homage to itself was quite a nice idea.
Casting was better except for Wendy Peffercorn. Go back and watch the early scene when Sid is at her book signing and the cops open her trunk (I wont spoil it for you if you havent seen it) and the cops react to keep the crowd back.
You can see her, arms stretched out from her sides in a linebacker stance, literally hopping around as if she's playing Red Rover in order to keep the throngs of the crowd away, who arent closing in mind you. It's just fucking hilarious and unnecessarily weak. And still, somehow she is supposed to be an authority figure, but she is probably the only cop whose uniform makes her look like a bimbo.
And can we discuss Gale for a moment? Easily meant to be, and is, the most hated character, but she embraces that and delivers. The self aware digs she takes at herself and her 90's icons are terrific, not to mention the aforementioned jabs at the horror genre.
We wont even discuss Dewey's injury. Good lord man.
And an ICU unit, with all the shit going in there at the end of the movie, and noone is around, literally any fucking where. I know it's a movie, but cripes sake man, come on.
Anyhoo...I made it.

What else? I know there was more than that....I already talked about Bly Manor...damn. I cant remember lol
Oh well, if I do, Ill come back to it. If you have any I need to watch, cite em  :D
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 26, 2020, 12:04:35 AM
The Others
Nicole Kidman

This one has always been in the back of my mind to watch but just never did. well, today was the day.
Kidman is a mom who lives in an old mansion in the islands of France with her two kids in 1945.
Her kids have a disease characterized by photosensitivity, therefore, all curtains must be shut at all times and only candles are to be used in the home, hence no electricity.
When we come in, Grace Stewart (Kidman) is seeking live in help to nanny her kids and to handle the grounds. The three person troupe she hired were led by Mrs. Mills (Fionnula Flanagan) who tries to stay neutral on matters between the family members. The older kid, (Alakina Mann) is a bit stand offish to her dominating mother while son Nicholas (James Bentley ) rather dotes on his mom.
The home schooled young ones learn in depth bible teachings from Kidman. Despiter her authoritarian personality her kids seemingly scoff at some of the teachings, much to mom's dismay.
Meanwhile Mrs. Mills softens the kids with her stoic yet calming manner, seemingly not taking either side in the minor skirmishes in the daily life of the Stewarts.

I love the cinematography in this movie. The understated tones really sell the mood along with the WWII era art direction.
Nicole Kidman was stellar as was the directing and editing too. If you have surround sound, turn this one up. I dont have to tell you the sounds you might hear in an old mansion, especially in a horror setting, and yes, I called it a horror film.

I enjoyed this more than I thought I would so if you havent watched it, give it a look
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 27, 2020, 09:19:13 PM
Continuing my Halloween thread, next up is

Host

This was a cool little bit of filmmaking. Think of ...Blair Witch, via Zoom.

Set in the year, 2020 lol, not a joke.
Everyone is dealing with the pandemic and like most friends, this group of buddies have been Zoom'ing to cure boredom and to have some interaction with each other.
To really liven things up, our host, Haley, invites her friends to a seance via Zoom with her friend who is a spiritual medium.
Haley and her 5 friends are mocking the upcoming session just as most anyone would, but Haley says that despite knowing the likely outcome, please be respectful to her friend. Obviously not wanting to embarrass her with snide snarky jokes.
All agree and she is let in to the conference.

The audience participates in POV manner, ala BWP, and then, you just kinda have to imagine what's next.
The actors are real friends and made it themselves and honestly, it's a good piece of storytelling via creative measures. I love the idea and at :56 minutes, it's an easy watch.
I'd suggest you take a look.

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 29, 2020, 11:27:22 AM
Ready or Not

This isnt a horror flick per se, but I ran across it and wanted to check it out.
Samara Weaving plays Grace, our blushing bride to be who is marrying Alex (Adam Brody) of the supremely wealthy La Domas family who made their fortune via board and card games.
Alex is apprehensive because he knows the family history and is also somewhat of a black sheep as he has tried to distance himself from the truth.
Grace is told by Alex that as a tradition, something his family adheres to religiously, the newlywed has to draw a card which will display in which she must partake.
She is somewhat confused and mildly curious at the beginning but agrees to go along.
Alex and the family knows there's one card that none of them really want her to pull and the odds are against it, but it's a tense selection process nonetheless.
Andie McDowell and Henry Czerny are the doting mom and dad who demand the family do must what be done when they see Grace pulled the dreaded Hide and Seek card.

This film is hardly campy and despite its dangerous themes you can rightly assume the movie doesnt take itself entirely too seriously nor is it based wholly in reality.
The characters sharply contrast one another and each has their own humorous quips and observations from time to time, but they are determined to find Grace and honor the family tradition.

4/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 29, 2020, 10:47:29 PM
The Frighteners 1996
Michal J. Fox

Ok, believe it or not, I havent seen this one. I always thought it was going to be too hokey and not funny, like Beetlejuice or Ghostbusters.
And it was, almost.
This film walks a fine line between camp and horror.
Fox plays a paranormal investigator.
Turns out he can see and communicate with spirits. In order to boost his business, he has his spirits haunt homes so they will call him to exorcise the demons. Interesting in that is the very thing Walter Peck accused The Ghostbusters of doing, but I digress.
Fox notices that a demon is marking people for death and killing them, both in the real world and on the other side.
The film begins to blend in some thriller type horror stuff and it works overall, I mean Zemeckis is part of it ya know.
You can kinda figure it out from here.
The special effects are kinda cheesy in the early going but since it's not a real serious film, it gets a pass. As the after life characters appear and interact, the VFX are much much better and more conducive to the film.
It's a fun kinda ride with a not so twist of a third act, but bearable.
I liked it ok and didnt feel like it was a waste of time.
if it weren't Halloween season, I may not be as forgiving, but all in all

3.5 / 5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on October 29, 2020, 11:25:57 PM
Dude, I LOVE The Frighteners! One of my high school finds, it's absolutely a campy little comedy (I think it's only Peter Jackson's second movie, and obviously before he did Lord of the Rings), but oh man. Jeffrey Combs doing his crazy paranormal detective thing, MJF, I love all of his ghost pals, and an especially game Jake Busey? Hell yes.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 30, 2020, 11:15:03 AM
The ghost pals were great as was Busey. I would have liked to seen him in more roles.
I loved R Lee Emery's appearance too, straight outta FMJ lol
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on October 30, 2020, 02:02:04 PM
So, the fiancee and I decided to watch a movie a day for Halloween (it's possible I forgot to log a few), with us splitting up the movie choices between us. Here's a blurb for all of them so far (and, as always: I keep my Letterboxd up to date with reviews, and even just a general list of movies I've watched during quarantine, if you ever want to sneak a peek - https://letterboxd.com/bucfever/). Most of these we watched either on Netflix, Hulu, Prime Video, rented via Prime, or watched free on whatever TubiTV and PlutoTV are. Lets dive in!

Geralds Game (2017)
Amazing film! Read the book in middle school (eh...yeah....), and as much as I can remember, this is a pretty damn faithful adaptation. Captivating. Netflix original, so free on the service.

The Haunting (1999)
Liam Neeson. Catherine Zeta Jones. Owen Wilson. Lili Taylor. Yeah, this was a bomb back in '99 and still is, but worth a few laughs at the special effects of the day, and of course Owen Wilson getting his head lobbed off by a chimney flue.

Repo! The Genetic Opera (2008)
Less horror and more just horror aesthetic, it doesn't quite rise to the heights of another gothic horror musical (Sweeney Todd), but it's still an entertaining little movie.

Frailty (2001)
Absolute cult horror classic from '01. Bill Paxton (RIP) in his first directing effort and starring role, with Matthew McConaughey and Powers Booth. Still holds up, although the ending always is a bit cheesy for me.

Freeway (1996)
This was a really weird movie. Keifer Sutherland and Reese Witherspoon, "based on Little Red Riding Hood." The director didn't go on to much, and uh, I see why. Still, was interesting watching the two of them in these unusual roles.

Hubie Halloween (2020)
Avoid at all costs.

Lucky (2011)
Another horror comedy, this one starring Colin Hanks! Colin Hanks wins the lottery, and his female coworker, who he likes despite her despising him, decides she'll finally give him a chance now that he has money, and even marries him! Only to find out he's a really, really bad serial killer and if she wants to keep the money, she's going to need to give him some help. Entertaining for what it is, won't knock your socks off but you'll get a few laughs. Plus, Colin Hanks.

The Collector (2009)
Another cult horror film, this one by one of the guys behind Saw. Arkin's a man with a debt and a timeline, so he decides to rob the house he was working at earlier in the day, only to find that someone has beaten him there....I love this movie, although the fiancee was a bit too squeamish so we had to remove it's sequel, The Collection, from our schedule, but I also highly recommend that as well.

Thirteen Ghosts (2001)
This was right after The Collector, as I was going to do a double feature with The Collection but instead ended up having to select a "palette cleanser." Tony Shaloub, some brief F. Murray Abraham, Matthew Lillard, Shannon Elizabeth, just a stacked cast all around. I can't remember if I saw this in theaters or if this was a "can't sleep' watch, but I remember thinking it was more of a "mainstream, poppy" type horror, but there are definitely parts that get a bit intense. Good flick overall, not super scary but sort of the "fun joyride" horror movie.

The Craft (1996)
The first film in the next double feature (her choices this time), this was actually my first time watching The Craft. Good movie! No surprises there.

Practical Magic (1998)
Not exactly horror, but, WITCHES. I actually remember seeing this back then, I remember my parents renting it from Blockbuster or whatever (I would've been 11), mainly the husband's death scene and the "lime in the coconut" scene, not sure if I fell asleep for the other parts. Anyways, a fun little all-female vehicle (somewhat strangely directed by Griffin Dunne, or After Hours and American Werewolf in London fame), I enjoyed it.

The Ritual (2017)
This is on Netflix and I cannot, cannot recommend it enough. After losing a friend in a tragic robbery, a group of friends go hiking in the woods in his memory. Horror ensues. I'll say no more. Just watch it.

The Autopsy of Jane Doe (2016)
A surprise entry! Her niece came over one night and chose this movie for us, I had never seen it. Brian Cox and Emile Hirsch, and interesting little movie where a "Jane Doe" corpse brings with it supernatural horrors. Pretty decent, for a later day horror flick.

Jennifer's Body (2009)
I remember when this came out, although I didn't go see it. Wasn't a Megan Fox fan. But it's actually a good movie! Has plenty of flaws, it's not a perfect movie, but some good commentary and Megan Fox is good in the role overall.

House On Haunted Hill (1999)
I used this to go back and watch some horror movies of my youth that I remember seeing on-release in theaters. In 1999, there was The Haunting, and there was The House on Haunted Hill. Definitely a stacked cast here as well, Chris Kattan, Geoffrey Rush, Famke Janssen, Ali Larter, Taye Diggs, poor man's Jeff Goldblum Peter Gallagher. The movie is still somewhat decent in the first half, minus the overly campy and boorish behavior of Rush and Janssen's married couple. The finale is rough, with an uninspired "final ghost" that was poorly received in '99 and only looks worse now. Was fun to revisit for nostalgia's sake, and only for nostalgia.

Midsommar (2019)
Saw this in theaters when it came out in 2019, she hadn't so she picked it. I liked this movie the first time, although had a lot of issues with it, however, I enjoyed it far more on rewatch and felt like I really understood and connected with the film a lot more. Was definitely at least worth a watch before, a splendid film.

When A Stranger Calls (2016)
Her pick, I actually haven't seen the original so can't compare this remake to it. It was...fine. It was fine. Wasn't overly bad, was just...fine.

The Descent (2005)
Oh, The Descent. Back in the days of Saw and Hostel, when people said the horror genre was dead and thought torture porn was here to stay, The Descent was the cult horror flick we could all point to and say "Horror is alive!" I fear it hasn't aged well in the last 15 years, and one of my major issues: the first half, when it's just the women in the cave, is more tense and scary than the second half when the monsters appear, still stands. Still though, love this movie.

The other issue is I bought it on Amazon to watch, and it uses the fucking alternate ending. I had to pull up Youtube to show her the real ending. The alternate ending is only used on Prime due to the fact that they made a sequel based off it (I think the alternate ending was the main one used in UK).

The Mothman Prophecies (2002)
Richard Gere! Laura Linney! Will Patton, aka the white coach from Remember the Titans!

99% sure this was an "It's 11 PM and HBO has this one" high school movie, but again, revisiting. West Virginians are seeing a mothman, a supernatural presence that Gere's character has some familiarity with. An interesting little movie, "based on a true story," overall it misses its marks but was fun for me to revisit.

Interview With The Vampire (1994)
I'd never seen this before, was her pick, and my goodness, what a movie. The Slater bits are a bit slow, a framing device that may be unnecessary, but Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt absolutely nail their characters, and small child Kirsten Dunst is unbelievable in her role. If you're like I was and haven't seen it yet, fix that.

Dark Skies (2013)
Saw this one in theaters, it went under the radar back in 2013 but is actually really good. A family of four, debt-ridden and trying to make their way, start having unexplained phenomena occur in their home, on top of everything else. I really like the lead actor in this, Josh Hamilton, and Keri Russell is here too for a great performance, along with a brief cameo by JK Simmons. Highly recommended.

Trick R Treat (2007)
A little horror anthology covering 4 stories that all occur at the same time on Halloween. More Brian Cox here, plus Anna Paquin, it's a cute little Halloween tale that's not particularly scary but is entertaining at least.

The Lovely Bones (2009)
Horror in the "this can actually happen" category, I suppose (her pick, not mine), but I enjoyed it. Missed this one in theaters, a great, creepy performance by Stanley Tucci, and Mark Wahlberg bordering on his "The Happening" level of character. Still, worth a look, not Peter Jackson's finest work as director but not his worst, I assume.

Parasite (2019)
FINALLY got her to watch it. It's still free on Hulu. Rent if on Prime if you have to. WATCH PARASITE.

How To Be A Serial Killer (2008)
This was her pick and was insane. Absolutely a B-movie, this is dark comedy by way of Clerks. Shot on a budget of probably about $2, and starring Dameon Clarke, who IMDB tells me has done a LOT of video game voice acting work, and Matthew Gray Gubler of Criminal Minds fame, this was obviously before either of these guys had regular careers. I DID enjoy it for what it is, but just know you're not in for any high minded fare here.

Halloween H2O (1998)
I was told no "Halloween," so instead, I skirted that rule by using Halloween H2O instead. Again, revisiting some bad movies of my youth, it was interesting to watch this having the new reboot in mind for context. There's seeds of that movie's plot in Laurie Strode here, although she's much more successful, being the head of some sort of private school academy. Josh Hartnett and Michelle Williams are here for a bit, so is LL Cool J. None of the magic of the original two, despite being the re-apperance of Laurie Strode after 4 sequels without her.




And that's been it so far. She gets a movie tonight, I have to choose one for Halloween (gonna go with Coraline, I think), but yeah. It's been a fun October.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 30, 2020, 06:21:36 PM
Dude! You've been holding out on me lol
Here I was thinking I was all alone  :o

I picked a few for comments or questions.

Frailty (2001)
Absolute cult horror classic from '01. Bill Paxton (RIP) in his first directing effort and starring role, with Matthew McConaughey and Powers Booth. Still holds up, although the ending always is a bit cheesy for me.


I loved this movie. What didnt you like about the ending?
Spoiler: show
The switcharoo, or Boothe being the killer or the religious stuff at the very end?


Freeway (1996)
This was a really weird movie. Keifer Sutherland and Reese Witherspoon, "based on Little Red Riding Hood." The director didn't go on to much, and uh, I see why. Still, was interesting watching the two of them in these unusual roles.


Saw this when it came out and it was, strange lol
Reese and Kiefer were cool together though, and Brooke Shields lol Loved her brief arc

The Ritual (2017)
This is on Netflix and I cannot, cannot recommend it enough. After losing a friend in a tragic robbery, a group of friends go hiking in the woods in his memory. Horror ensues. I'll say no more. Just watch it.


For real watch, or are you fucking with me? Should I replace tonights selection with it?

When A Stranger Calls (2016)
Her pick, I actually haven't seen the original so can't compare this remake to it. It was...fine. It was fine. Wasn't overly bad, was just...fine.


The original was not a great film but as much time as I was spending at the thatre, I saw it more than once so, do the math. It was passable. However havent sen it since so...
Never watched the remake because I cant fathom how they would create the same scary scenario.

Dark Skies (2013)
Saw this one in theaters, it went under the radar back in 2013 but is actually really good. A family of four, debt-ridden and trying to make their way, start having unexplained phenomena occur in their home, on top of everything else. I really like the lead actor in this, Josh Hamilton, and Keri Russell is here too for a great performance, along with a brief cameo by JK Simmons. Highly recommended.


This or The Ritual?

Trick R Treat (2007)
A little horror anthology covering 4 stories that all occur at the same time on Halloween. More Brian Cox here, plus Anna Paquin, it's a cute little Halloween tale that's not particularly scary but is entertaining at least.


Sounds like Creepshow. You say it's entertaining. Does that mean, entertaining, watch it. Or entertaining but not worth it?
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on October 30, 2020, 06:41:51 PM
Frailty (2001)
Absolute cult horror classic from '01. Bill Paxton (RIP) in his first directing effort and starring role, with Matthew McConaughey and Powers Booth. Still holds up, although the ending always is a bit cheesy for me.


I loved this movie. What didnt you like about the ending?
Spoiler: show
The switcharoo, or Boothe being the killer or the religious stuff at the very end?


The Ritual (2017)
This is on Netflix and I cannot, cannot recommend it enough. After losing a friend in a tragic robbery, a group of friends go hiking in the woods in his memory. Horror ensues. I'll say no more. Just watch it.


For real watch, or are you fucking with me? Should I replace tonights selection with it?
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Dark Skies (2013)
Saw this one in theaters, it went under the radar back in 2013 but is actually really good. A family of four, debt-ridden and trying to make their way, start having unexplained phenomena occur in their home, on top of everything else. I really like the lead actor in this, Josh Hamilton, and Keri Russell is here too for a great performance, along with a brief cameo by JK Simmons. Highly recommended.





Trick R Treat (2007)
A little horror anthology covering 4 stories that all occur at the same time on Halloween. More Brian Cox here, plus Anna Paquin, it's a cute little Halloween tale that's not particularly scary but is entertaining at least.


Sounds like Creepshow. You say it's entertaining. Does that mean, entertaining, watch it. Or entertaining but not worth it?

So, in order (at least, I thought, until I looked after posting and realized stuff didn't highlight as I expected):

A little of all 3. It's not even that they're out of left field or anything obviously, as the movie sets it all up, it just feels a little lazier than the rest of the movie.

[Edit - Regarding The Ritual and Dark Skies]: And yes, I mean WATCH THE RITUAL. It's extremely good. I'd say, between that and Dark Skies, I'd watch Dark Skies first, just because I personally think The Ritual is better, but both are good.

Trick R Treat's fun in an "I don't know what to watch tonight, it's the day before Halloween/Halloween/just a general day in October, I'll put this on the TV" kind of way. You won't hate it. You'll chuckle at parts. You'll go "oh that's gross" at parts. And then you'll move on. Just some fun little performances (forgot to mention Dylan Baker Hall) and little Halloween tales. It's good fun, but nothing more.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 30, 2020, 11:20:16 PM
So the ritual it is, or was.
I really enjoyed it, but I have questions.

Spoiler: show

I figured early on that we were dealing with two stories regarding the main character.
Him coping with the death of his buddy at the liquor store and having flashbacks in the moment.
And the obvious, dealing with the main antagonist.

So, I found myself wondering, why isnt this thing just killing the last two guys?
The beast knows where they are, primarily because of the fucking flashlight.
I knew it was the beast or the condemned that created or led them to the path of the village to be sacrificed.
So is that the story, they had to be ritualized, or sacrificed? That's why the beast didnt kill them?
Or was he satiated by the groups other two friends in the interim?

The wounds in his chest; was that the beast marking him because it knew what emotional pain he was in about his friend? After his capture, the one girl remarked, you submit to him and no more pain.

And finally, at the end....was the beast giving him a last chance to worship? I assumed if he was reluctant he would be killed.
Was that the reason for pressing him to the ground?
I guess that's what our boy thought because he slashed the monster with a hatchet and ran out of the woods. Im not sure if he knew the creature could leave the woods or not, but I figured he couldn't.

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on October 31, 2020, 05:28:57 PM
That's a lot of questions! We'll save those for a PC response.

Meanwhile, I forgot one more movie:

Hard Candy (2005)

I never saw this, but I've heard all the great work of mouth since it's release, even back then. Just never got around to it before now. Anyways, Ellen Page and Patrick Wilson are the lone stars of this one, both in early roles in their career (this predates Juno for Page). A really tense film, in the torture porn category BUT without the gore (one sequence still made me pause the movie and collect myself. You'll know which one). Definitely worthy of all the praise it's received, a good watch.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on October 31, 2020, 06:02:44 PM
lol well hurry up.

I saw Hard Candy when it was released and man, it was a tough watch for sure .
Ive only seen it one though, I think thats enough lol
I agree in recommending this film
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on November 01, 2020, 12:42:14 AM
Alright, so Dark Skies, I liked it. I didnt love it, but I liked it.
I didnt like Josh Hamilton in this role. It just didnt seem to suit him very well, and I really didnt care about him all that much. Maybe it's a combination of things, but he didnt do it for me.
Keri Russell on the other hand, she really poured herself in to this part it seems. I also think she is an underrated actress. Unlike Hamilton, I cared about her part in the family, struggling at work, her rapport with the fam, the kids.
I dont know wy I never saw this, I guess it slipped under the radar for some reason. So I looked it up to find out more as I tend to do and I was really kinda surprised to see that it is practically hated by most popular review sites.
Like I said, I didnt love it, but damn, 49% on RT? I wasnt expecting that at all. I mean, that's worse than Friday the 13th part 6 for crying out loud.

Turns out the articles I read say it's hated because it pulls directly from other films, like the ones the producers worked on, ala Insidious and Paranormal Activity. Signs was another film cited in which I was led to believe Dark Skies ripped off not only a theme but whole scenes shot for shot.
There's a tiny bit of sarcasm dripping there but still, you feel me.
Those points may be true, but it didnt affect me because I havent seen any of those pictures.
I really kinda feel outta place now, liking a movie that is rejected wholeheartedly by the general public.
Ah well....

So what to do to finish off Halloween? I was going to go with the above mentioned lighter Trick r Treat, but I passed because for a few nights now I've had the inkling to revisit The Thing. Which I did.
All in all, it was a pretty good October. I'm kinda sad it's over.

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on November 01, 2020, 05:46:56 PM
I love the homages in Dark Skies, haha.  Yeah, there's a lot parallel to Poltergeist, but I enjoyed those nods myself.

We went out to a haunted house and corn maze last night, but still decided to watch a late night movie since we were getting an hour back anyways. Decided on

The Houses October Built (2014)

Much like Dark Skies, I had a lot of interest in this one until the reviews savaged it. Unlike Dark Skies, I agree with the reviews. Kinda fun for a while, but never really kicks into gear until a really abrupt ending. Mostly leaves you feeling disappointed. Still, was pretty fun to watch ON Halloween, definitely fit the mood and all.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on November 01, 2020, 08:31:53 PM
ehh, you never addressed my questions lol
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on November 01, 2020, 08:39:07 PM
Ah, but I will, eventually. I probably can't answer any of them, but I'll address 'em!
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on November 02, 2020, 12:52:02 PM
So the ritual it is, or was.
I really enjoyed it, but I have questions.

Spoiler: show

I figured early on that we were dealing with two stories regarding the main character.
Him coping with the death of his buddy at the liquor store and having flashbacks in the moment.
And the obvious, dealing with the main antagonist.

So, I found myself wondering, why isnt this thing just killing the last two guys?
The beast knows where they are, primarily because of the fucking flashlight.
I knew it was the beast or the condemned that created or led them to the path of the village to be sacrificed.
So is that the story, they had to be ritualized, or sacrificed? That's why the beast didnt kill them?
Or was he satiated by the groups other two friends in the interim?

The wounds in his chest; was that the beast marking him because it knew what emotional pain he was in about his friend? After his capture, the one girl remarked, you submit to him and no more pain.

And finally, at the end....was the beast giving him a last chance to worship? I assumed if he was reluctant he would be killed.
Was that the reason for pressing him to the ground?
I guess that's what our boy thought because he slashed the monster with a hatchet and ran out of the woods. Im not sure if he knew the creature could leave the woods or not, but I figured he couldn't.




So, having read the questions, I BELIEVE all the answers are, simply, "yes," haha. At least, that was my reading of it. I assume that
Spoiler: show
 the group they encounter probably underwent similar circumstances (and it may be a "the strongest of the pained are chosen" thing, too, for all I know),
but yeah, what you've got there all sounds about right.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on November 02, 2020, 01:29:32 PM
lol you know, if everyone could just admit I'm right, things wold go a lot smoother  :D
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on November 08, 2020, 02:47:57 PM
Old Man and the Gun
Robert Redford and Sissy Spacek

Ive had this one on the list for a while and for two reasons; One, I think Redford is a great actor and director and two, I have an affinity for true or based on true stories.

Forrest Tucker was an aging bank robber who used charisma and kindness in lieu of threats and violence to reach his goals.
He and two friends dubbed the Over the Hill gang operated primarily in areas around Oklahoma and Texas  in the early eighties.
His story appeared in the New Yorker in 2003 catching the attention of Redford who was intrigued not only of his skills as a criminal but his 17 escapes from prisons throughout hyis life, including some high profile institutions.

The films opening declares the movie to be mostly true.
Based on the reading I've done, that appears to be accurate, believe it or not.
the problem I have with the film is that it's too much like it's main character. While keeping to the truth on sscreen, the film, like Forrest, is just sorta bland. There's no real tension, no real emotion, no thrill, it is interesting and I liked it, but it just lacked any draw power for me.
But the thing is, it's the truth, so Redford couldn't really do much more without coloring way outside th lines and that would have been a huge disservice to the story. All he could do was translate what really was and what was was that Forrest Tucker was a charming, charismatic, unthreatening but not uninteresting story.
If you are a fan of Redford or a fan of true stories, certainly check this on out.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on November 08, 2020, 03:47:50 PM
Saw Old Man and the Gun when it released in theaters with kiddo, we both loved it, really good film.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on November 08, 2020, 04:26:01 PM
glad to hear that, I liked it too
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 10, 2020, 09:21:36 PM
Retro watch this weekend.
I yanked War Games from the archives.
Still holds up for me. I remember reading about it years ago when on screen hacking was being discussed and War Games was mentioned as one that was actually pretty accurate.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 25, 2020, 10:58:32 PM
WW84
Gal Gadot

We catch up with Ms. Prince in 1984 where we see flashes, literally, of her, during a robbery gone wrong at a mall.
During the intro here, I canot decide how serious patty Jenkins is in her WW universe, because at ties so far, it seems to be pretty campy, which is not a good sign. Luckily, she tempers it well with Gadot, who I absolutely love as WW. Such a striking beauty and athletic enough to be believable on screen.
We know her current sitch as a museum curator or some such and it's here we are introduced to the mundane "ugly" pretty girl played by Kristen Wiig.
During her exposition, Jenkins creates a few moments or pure misogyny that are a reach for me, I mean, even in the 80's, but, it was a brief few moments to depict a character so we let that go too.
Pedro Pascual takes center sreen as our main villain, Max Lord.
You see, Max is in dire straits. He fancies himself Tony Robbins (before there would have been a Tony Robbins) but his finances are no bueno.
He seeks this ancient artifact that he apparently had been tracking which harks back to our opening scene, but now it's in the hands of our protagonists who don't yet know what this ancient charm actually is.
Staying spoiler free, it is the center piece of the film now.
I really liked the feel of the film, reverting to the 80's.
As Chris Pine is seeking outfits to wear (yes, he's back and it's explained in the movie, I cant spoil it) with Diana as the decider, jenkins takes this opportunity to give us a chuckle at that oh so neon fashionable decade. Other wise, the 80's references are quite muted which really could've been an easy oversell.
As noted prior, there are still instances where the camp rears it's ugly head and I honestly can't decide why the director elected such choices.
It's also reflected in some minor but important casting selections. My only conclusion is that maybe she's trying to keep an element of the old TV show alive? Either way, not really a fan, but nonetheless those decisions do not factor in during the third act in which the film begins to hammer home the theme of the movie.
At 2.5 hours, you might think, no way. I mean, Marvel, sure, but DC Comics? Nah
Might wanna give that a re think. I feel like the director has better control over the WW world and her character and Gadot only gets better if that's possible.
Also, being a Star Wars nerd, I was watching this movie to see if I can gain a glimpse of directorial decisions made by Jenkins that would give me hope for her being at the helm of the next Star Wars project.
She should be ok, as long as she grasps the SW universe when attempting her humor and doesn't let it turn in to cheese.
Give this one a peek

4/5


Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: TheNorm on December 26, 2020, 03:33:37 PM
All I'm going to say about Wonder Woman 84 is that one day there should really be a look back at what the MCU gets right with their movies/franchises and what the DCU can learn from it.

Then maybe actually apply it their future films.

2.5/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on December 28, 2020, 05:22:59 PM
I watched it Xmas Day, but we had her aunt, uncle and niece over (they moved here in April for his job, so they have no friends, like us! So we're the only people we hang out with), so between brunch and board games, the movie was more background noise than main attraction. It seemed a jumbled mess, and the Steve Trevor stuff brings up some questions, but I have to give it an actual watch to judge it properly.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 29, 2020, 03:54:01 PM
In the meantime, I'm really disappointed in some upcoming reboots and remakes:

Nutty Professor (no Murphy)
Carrie (limited TV series)
House Party
Indecent Proposal
The Crow - still
Conan the Barbarian - Amazon TV series
Mighty Ducks - TV
Three Musketeers - not much info, but apparently Mission Impossible style
Stripes - TV series, by far the most disappointing
License to Drive
Terms of Endearment
Splash - Gender reversed remake wtf
Highlander, again
Green Lantern - there was one already?
The Great Outdoors - Kevin Hart starring. So I take it back, this is the worst.
American Werewolf in London - female wolf this time
Logan's Run - franchise
I know What you did last summer
Big Trouble in Little China - The Rock and booo!
Bewitched - T series but now it will be an interracial thing
Grease - spinoff  ::)
Clueless
Many Saints of Newark - Sopranos prequel starring Gandolfini's son portraying him in a setting of Newark during the riots in the 60's
Frasier - continuation
Nash Bridges - continuation
Practical Magic - prequel
Dexter - TV limited series. This is supposed to be a 10 ep project that focuses on Dexter after his self imposed exile.


Animated remakes
Gremlins
Good Times


Out of all this crapola, the only ones I'm interested in are Dexter, Many Saints and Frasier.
Out of those, I'm sure Frasier will be the most successful.
Many Saints is one I really want to see as well since Im a huge Sopranos fan. I dont think it will be terrible, but Im not wholly confident it will be a masterpiece like it's predecessor.
Dexter was really good the first 4 seasons or maybe 5, cant recall. But, the stuffed shirts interfered and fucking ruined it.
I sincerely hope Hall, et al can recover and give this show a proper send off.

I sincerely hope Stripes and Great outdoors never get made or fail on a massive scale.
Why would you name a TV show Stripes? It is going to have absolutely NOTHING to do with the original in any way shape form or fashion.
No character connection, no era connection, no story connection no nothing. It's about a bunch of misfits in the army. Just call it something else and stop trying to live off the name like that shitty Lethal Weapon TV experiment.
kevin Hart isn't funny to me and I can see right now it's just going to be a standup comedy hour for Hart.
Again, just trying to ride off of the name, there's no reason at all to reboot it.
As much as I hate it, at least the female Ghostbusters idea was legit.
Andy btw, Splash can fuck right off too...

Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on December 29, 2020, 05:04:55 PM
It's just name recognition. Marvel created a movie studio and printed money because of all their recognized properties, and DC more-or-less did the same teaming up with WB. Now every studio wants to mine their own back log of previous hits to try to create either "connected universes" (such as the failed Dark Universe) or the "sequel-reboot," i.e. the upcoming Ghostbusters where the original cast is involved to pass the torch and then they can continue the franchise like that was the plan all along. Studios, TV or movie, don't want anything that isn't a "franchise." Outside of maybe streaming services (Netflix, and not streaming but HBO too), most studios are looking for "how long can this show/movie franchise go on" from the initial pitch, whereas Netflix and HBO seem to be somewhat better at saying either A) you've gone on long enough (more Netflix) or B) just having a set number of seasons per the creator (I'll note that Mad Men and Breaking Bad both, I believe, had a set number of seasons established by their creator. Vincent Gilligan (who did BB) also said Better Call Saul will end at 6).

It's gross. Prior to Marvel and DC, there was what, like, maybe James Bond that had X amount of movies, and that was it? You were lucky to get a trilogy, and you only got a sequel if the first was a hit, not "we're ready to announce a sequel as long as it doesn't lose money," which we've also seen happen. It sucks, and it's the business side of movies taking agency away from the creative/original side.

But especially in 2020, when people turned up to stream Mulan (basically a superhero movie), WW84 and the other mainstream movies (Tenet, I'm sure, once it's available) and disregarded other original movies or genre fare (Palm Springs, The Assisant, Bacarau, Never Rarely Sometimes Always, First Cow), I don't see things getting any better.

Then again, I heard people complaining that "Hollywood's run out of ideas" since I was a kid in the 90s. I feel like we saw more book adaptations back then (even if we didn't realize they were book adaptations. Looking at you, Die Hard) but not quite the catalog cannibalization we're seeing of late.

There's a few directors and/or studios though who fight the good fight. A24, Neon, Bong-Joon Ho, Charlie Kauffman, Scorsese still hits on all cylinders. There's good stuff out there, and more coming, but yeah, I'm a bit sick of franchises at the moment.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 29, 2020, 06:24:19 PM
yea that's what I was suggesting, just name recognition and it's absolute shit.
I get your point about wanting a franchise, but also as you note, not everyone does it, I mean some shows are planned for more seasons to start then are abruptly canceled which is the other side of the negative coin.
Programs like Fleabag which ran its course in two seasons was phenomenal, but that's a rarity.

The Hollywood is out of ideas thing is quite old and true, many didnt realize there were as many adaptations such as Die Hard and First Blood.

When I was growing up, I cold rattle off every single movie at the theaters at any given time. Back then, it had to be at the movies first, then it took like almost a year for it to get to home video in the early 80's. Then during the hey day of cable, you'd see some direct to video releases but really not all that many. But now? Shit. With so many avenues, I couldnt tell you ten films that have been at the theaters this year, or last, since, you know, Covid.

There is good stuff but it's harder to find, at least for me.

On a side note about franchises' I really really liked First Blood.
Deeper message, no over the top super hero shit. And part II had the makings of another great film but they just went all action movie on us and ruined it. Die Hard, same thing. Just an ordinary guy trying to stay alive, but by Die Hard II, he's super action hero suddenly.
Granted Rocky didnt go down the shitter until III, but still.
I just think they do a disservice to their characters in order grab some cash.
Nobody thinks Die Hard and oh what a great movie that was, they think Die Hard, the same action movie made what, 4 times? 5 times now? I dont even know. Rocky? Rambo? Still? What a joke....they just kill their original films that were so good.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on December 30, 2020, 12:48:22 PM
Granted Rocky didnt go down the shitter until III, but still.
I just think they do a disservice to their characters in order grab some cash.
Nobody thinks Die Hard and oh what a great movie that was, they think Die Hard, the same action movie made what, 4 times? 5 times now? I dont even know. Rocky? Rambo? Still? What a joke....they just kill their original films that were so good.


I think that's partly why the trilogy works so well. It's essentially an extended 3-act play, comprised of other 3-act plays, haha. You've got a beginning, middle, and what should be an end, and can sort of explore from there.

That being said, I'd say outside of James Bond and the MCU, Rocky's one of the only other franchises I can think of that stated it's case past three movies. Everyone loves Rocky IV, and even though V is garbage, Balboa was considered a big comeback at the time, and the Creed movies have been an absolute hit. Especially looking forward to Creed III since Michael B Jordan is going to direct it as well as star now.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on December 30, 2020, 02:09:15 PM
yea no doubt the Creed flicks are awesome and I really liked Balboa despite it being a film so deep in to the franchise.
Sorta like Rambo for me, I liked it too.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on January 28, 2021, 12:47:06 PM
Athlete A

A disturbingly honest report on the sexual abuse of Team USA gymnastic athletes harking back to the 90's.
The doc starts with a look at the gymnastics global scene, going back to Nadia Comanec who became the template for success.
Then fast forward to Mary Lou Retton becoming the face of the sport for USA.
We then evolve in to the marketing and money making machine that this sport reated in our country.
Of course when you start making gazillions of dollars, people gain power and then will protect it at all costs. Enter Dr. Nasser.
Early on in the story, one of the initial reporters discussed watching the "professional treatment" videos Nasser had produced for educational purposes.
He says that despite his artful medical language, what you were seeing him do was quite unsettling.
It just keeps branching out from here, focusing on the reporting and investigating of the story by the IndyStar.
We hear from everyone from gymnasts to some parents to a cop and they all tell an incredibly sad, sickening story.
So ultimately Nasser is arrested and once they search his home, they also find child porn, tons of it.
We see excerpts of his initial interrogation by cops (he had been interrogated and cleared on similar accusations years before) and he is so arrogant, using medical jargon to try and cover his inability to address the questions, and knowing what he did, it's simply appalling.
The investigation, thankfully, does not stop with him as they wanted to dive in to how a guy like Nasser could get away with such atrocities.
Examinations of the sport reveal how brutal the training and coaches are, namely the world renowned Bela and Martha Karolyi and their famous raining ranch in Texas.
Watching this program is uncomfortable for sure, but it also ignites rage when you see how obtuse Team USA, ala Steve Penny, ignored and covered up such serious crimes.
Obviously it was ingrained in everyone, not abused, to protect the product, the money, the gold mine.
You see it throughout history, you see it today and you will see it tomorrow.
Wherever you see money and power, you will see people being abused in slave like conditions.
They will throw out a scapegoat then just continue to rake in the cash.
That said, we are still waiting to see if anything of consequence will happen to Penny. He's been arrested, awaiting trail according to the doc.

We do see some hope along with spirited recovery by many of the victims as well as a satisfying few victim's speeches directed at Nasser during his trail.
While it is certainly tragic, it is a documentary developed with a promising outlook that justice has and will continue to prevail along with the future gymnasts having a much safer environment in which to pursue their goals.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on February 01, 2021, 07:54:07 PM
I'm bored and work is slow, lets do this:

Today, I bring you, stories from three separate movie ventures I've engaged upon recently (there's a reason I'm doing this intro, it's not a great bit). Lets begin with Snowpiercer.

Snowpiercer (2013)

A movie that's been on my "To See" list since...well, 2013. Out of nowhere, my fiancee says to me the other night, "I want to watch that Snowpiercer TV show." I said then we have to watch the movie first, and 8 years later than I'd originally meant to, I've finally done it.

If you don't know the story, the simple and quick premise is: in the battle against climate change, mankind screws up extraordinarily when they launch...tech...into the sky to...end?...climate change. Look, the intent or how it was supposed to work doesn't matter, because they BACKFIRE, and the world descends into a tremendous ice age, killing all of humanity except for the inhabitants of Snowpiercer.

Snowpiercer is a big train, on a track that circles the globe (presumably around the equator? Trajectory is never made clear), that rich folks hid away on as they were protected from the elements, however the tail cars were taken over by the "rabble," if you will. Yup, much like Parasite, Snowpiercer is about capitalism, class and, well, climate change. Thanks, Bong Joon-Ho!

To continue would be the beginning of spoilers, so suffice to say, the movie absolutely lives up to the hype. Chris Evans has a great performance, Tilda Swinton is here being really weird, and I enjoyed Kang-ho Song as Namgoong Minsoo (Kang-ho having played the father in Parasite, which, again, if you have not seen, go do it now. It's free on Hulu.) The direction is fantastic, confirming that yes, Bong-Joon Ho CAN film an action scene. Also, Jamie Bell is here, just a FEW years before he'd be made irrelevant by the existence of Tom Holland.

Anyways, Snowpiercer. Go check it out, it's on Netflix right now.

4 Stars




A good movie that was, and what a fantastic recap to share with all of you. That's not all I have though, for I ALSO bring you (here, the bit "pays off"):

News of the World (2020)

No, I did not subject myself to the innards of a movie house, HOWEVER, I did subject myself to the outtards of a drive-in theater! Yes, one of those words in the previous sentence was NOT a word. Lets get to it.

News of the World follows Tom Hank's character, Captain Jefferson Kidd, as he (repeatedly tells people) "travels town-to-town" with news of the world. I didn't have much of a care to see this, I'd heard some mixed reviews, but it was in a double feature with another film I DID want to see, and it was cheaper to see both at the drive-in than just rent one on Prime. I say this to note I DID very much enjoy the film. I can't say for sure if it'll bait the Oscars like it's clearly attempting to do, since I haven't seen nearly enough 2020 films to say, but I'm sure it'll contend.

The "twist" of the film is that, while travelling, Hanks happens upon a young girl, played expertly by Helena Zengel. The girl was being delivered to distant family, as her parents and home were killed by native americans, and now those same native americans are dead, leaving her in her current situation. The problem is, her escort has clearly been murdered, and now she's alone, with Hanks being the only one around. And she's NOT quite civilized.

The movie, as you may have read, has many parallels to the modern world, opening with Kidd reading from a newspaper about a measles outbreak, as he travels a country greatly divided following the Civil War, as they try to figure out how to unite with their former enemies under one flag. Unfortunately (or not, depending on how exhausted you are after the last four years), I don't think it quite delved as far into that well as it could, as the movie came alive more in those moments of him reading and delivering the news (sometimes to hostile crowds), than I felt it did during some lengthy chase sequences that seemed to fill time more than fill the story (although, I suppose we can file those under "gaining a younling's trust").

Regardless, if you're a fan of Hanks, feel like renting a new release or travelling out (to a drive-in) for it, or just want to know it's worth waiting for when it comes to the $1 Redbox months later, the answer, simply is yes.

3.5 stars



Promising Young Woman (2020)

Wow, this movie. The basic premise is simple: Cassie and Nina are best friends, who go to med school together. Nina is raped, and later drops out (Cassie does too), and commits suicide. The man who raped her, graduates #1 in their med school, goes on to have a nice life with no consequences.

But this isn't just some revenge story, that'd be TOO simple. Promising Young Woman, written and directed by Emerald Fennell (who showran the second season of Killing Eve, and wrote for Fleabag, I believe, with Phoebe-Waller Bridger) takes a keen eye on everyone who failed that night (including, to some extent, Cassie herself, as she blames herself for not being at the party where events occurred).

Cassie, now 30 and working the same job at a coffee house, goes out most nights, pretending to act incredibly drunk and allowing men to take her to their place, "to make sure she's ok." Naturally, these men are up to no good, but when Cassie shows she's not drunk at all and is 100% cognitively aware, they all immediately distress and start telling her how they're all "nice guys."

The movie may lose you here, because clearly, Cassie puts herself in a position to be taken advantage of by someone with predatory intentions, but that's not who the movie wants to focus on. Predators know they're predators, the movie targets those who don't realize they're the bad guy. To say more would be to spoil some of the movie's great moments (including a Spiderman 2 actor who does such a fantastic job with his limited time on-screen), but it's not just "man bad, hate men," and instead focuses on "rape culture" as a whole, who aids and abets it, and who the real culpable ones are.

One last thing: the movies' use of Bo Burnham is so effective. I love him as a stand-up, but after he wrote and directed Eighth Grade, and seeing him in this starring role, I'm excited for any project he has next. Incredible talent.

3.5 stars




As usual, I'll note I track my movies at my profile on Letterboxd, right here: https://letterboxd.com/bucfever/

Have my best of 2020 list (it's a small list), my unranked, "Every Movie I've Watched During Quarantine" list, and the simplest of reviews for each movie I watched: Is It Worth It? Often it's a yes. Sometimes there's a no. Riveting stuff.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on February 01, 2021, 10:09:50 PM
if there is a great thing about this pandemic, it is the fucking Drive In!
Ive always loved drive ins...the good and the bad and they are a piece of Americana.

Ive kept myself in the dark about News of the World because I figured id see it at some point because, Hanks.

Promising Young Women sounds intriguing, and one that sorta ties in with one I just watched which was story which was
Bombshell

I love Bombshell being used as a homonym. Ok that's out of the way.
Charlize Theron and a studded cast depict the inner workings of Fox News centering around Megyn Kelly (Theron) and Gretchen Carlson (Kidman)
I wont bore you with the backstory because you should already know.
Bombshell is a sleek, almost Aaron Sorkin style of film and centers around the serious matter of sexual harassment.
I dont know all of the characters IRL so hard for me to say who all was real or not, but I believe Margot Robbie was a composite character but still, very compelling.
Ailes was played absolutely masterfully by John Lithgow. One scene, and you'll know which one, was just so hard to watch and I think it needs to be seen by every male with hiring power.
The only negative thing I can say about this movie is that since it is centered around Trump and the election and some real news footage, it just reanimated all my disdain for that unbelievable shitstain and any demon that supports him.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on February 01, 2021, 10:53:38 PM
Yeah, I think you're right about that being a composite. I'd love to watch that one for the performances and cast alone, haven't gotten around to it yet though.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on February 03, 2021, 02:29:24 AM
So this movie is a bit young to be referenced as an archive pull, but nonetheless...

Since I just watched Revenge of the Sith after reading the novel, I was thinking about the Star Wars timeline and realized Solo fell in right about here.
I hem and hawed quite a bit because Ive berated Solo at every level and really only watched it with one eye open because I was pre disposed to hate it.
Having only seen it once, I decided to give it another look.
Ill say, my disdain his lifted, a little.
I really like how Woody Harrelson can be a great character and lead actor, no matter what. I love when young uns see him in Cheers, not knowing he was in it and freaking out.
I can tell you, letting time pass may have eased my critical sense of this film, but I think, seeing it now, really, my big issue with it has always been the casting of the lead character. Sorry, I dont know who he is, but there is just nothing Solo about him.
That's another reason I hated this movie before I even saw it. Harrison Ford is Harrison Ford and the only young version of him you'll ever find is, Harrison Ford.
So, to be fair to whoever this guy was, he really didnt have a chance, in my opinion anyway.
Lets call this film a good movie to escape with if you will. Not a lot of Star Wars meat here and I really also thought it contributed to franchise fatigue. That said, I ease my ire and will elevate this one above AOTC.
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on March 09, 2021, 01:39:10 PM
https://www.bizbuysell.com/Business-Opportunity/hi-way-drive-in-movie-theater-in-upstate-ny/1814375


I've got 5,000, who's putting up the other 870,000 with me? Guys? Anyone?
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on May 02, 2021, 12:45:26 AM
LOL I could go...$50, will that get me in??


Promising Young Woman
Carey Mulligan

There isn't much exposition in this film as the director chose to let Carey Mulligan flesh out Cassandra (Cassie) as we move along.
Honestly, we don't need to know everything because the high points are bled out slowly but reassuringly.
Cassie has an issue with men who take advantage of intoxicated women by playing the white night only to later accost, molest and potentially rape their new found score.
This is not a heavy handed "the cops never do anything so I will" kinda narrative, not at all, nor iis it a blood and guts "Ill get you for this" vehicle.
Carrie plays drunk and goes along with her savior, hping to find a shred of decency in her world, but it isn't to be.
In the background, we know why she is this way, sort of, we just don't know details, but that lure is always dazzling just under the surface.
Bo Burnham, yea, that one, plays Ryan. An old college mate who runs in to Carrie these years later and despite his genuine nature and interest, he is rebuffed by the untrusting protagonist.
I should preface this by saying, look, Im the first guy to admit, I'm no prize and the last one that should be judging the appearance of others, but Bo just has that look, ya know? Oh he is talented, and really quite surprising, at least to me, on point in this film. Capturing the essence of this character and having on screen chemistry really heaped this film up a rung, not that it needed it.
This theme has popped up again and it needs to be told, again, or still. However, the narrative is not such a harsh in your face one, like say Thelma and Louise. Not so black and white. In PYW, Carrie hears, "I'm a nice guy" and she scoffs, "If I hear that one more time..."
But you should hear it at least one more time because you should watch this film.
Wonderfully made and acted. Ok, there was a touch of overacting in a scene, but to illustrate a point, I let it slide. Nothing really diminishes this story. It's not a slow burn but it does unravel and though the interest and intensity rises, it does maintain a solid pace.
If you check your watch early on and huff because its only been thirty minutes of the 1:54 run time, just sit tight, and stop looking at your phone.

4.25 /5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: BojackHorsefella on June 09, 2021, 07:17:43 PM
Seems sort of appropriate this is the next reply in succession:

Bo Burnham's Inside (on Netflix)


Watched this a few days ago and it's stuck with me ever since.

The quick background is, Bo left standup comedy about 5 years ago due to onstage panic attacks. He was planning a comeback, which is when the pandemic hit, and over the past year he recorded this special in his home (I'm pretty sure he has a "studio" in his backyard, based solely on the ending shot of his previous Netflix special, "Make Happy"). The special bounces around so many subjects, some all at the same time, but basically deals with the initial "oh man, there's a pandemic" into "everything has gone wrong and I have 0 idea how to cope."

It's a brilliant look at the past year in total, but also the line between performance and authenticity, as well as our genuine selves and our online selves. Particularly for someone like Burnham, who rose to fame from the early days of Youtube, and seeing him tackle the ill effects the internet has had, especially during the past year, with his own success derived from it is pretty gripping (although he seems to fall firmly on the "this was a mistake" side, if you take the special at face value).

One of the reasons Burnham is so beloved is he's not a typical stand-up comedian, he's a performer, and his live shows are full of parody songs and big showy effects, ending typically with a showstopper number. In Inside, his creativity is put to the test and I was genuinely fascinated by the different setups he constructed (I can only imagine the amount of hours spent downloading and installing software, waiting for equipment/props/clothing to arrive, programming the various lights and such, editing in post, etc that this all took). My favorite is easily during the song "I'm Turning 30," where 3 lights (one off-screen) and an iPhone screen combine for a pretty great 80s throwback and visual homage.

Burnham's never held back on mental health commentary in his shows, and Inside is no different, although it's much more intense. I imagine it's somewhat hard to be sad when you're in front of a crowd of 1000s (anxious, sure, but sad, maybe not?), but here we see Burnham at what he calls his all-time low. At one point he's surrounded by various clutter while laying on the floor, head on a pillow with a microphone resting next to it, covered by a blanket. It's unclear at times whether these cutaways (which there are multiple; some of Burnham setting things up, some of him talking to the camera seemingly candidly) are authentic or performative, and the truth likely lies somewhere in between.

Much like my favorite show, Bojack Horseman, Bo's great at both comedy and existential dread, and the special isn't without that. If your serotonin is particularly low, you may want to stop at the Intermission and come back another time. As the year goes on, it keeps looking like this pandemic will only get worse, as well as the world outside of it, Burnham starts to lose himself more and more. While he may have warmed up to the idea of staying inside forever, he realizes that won't keep him safe, as politics, global warming, and various other calamities seem to threaten our existence every moment of the day lately. We see him face this calmly during "That Funny Feeling," an incredible modern, camp-side take on "We Didn't Start the Fire." Lines like "The world at your fingertips, an ocean at your door" and "That unapparent summer air in early fall" accentuating the true enemy of us all waiting to pounce once this pandemic is over and the world "returns to normal."

Burnham covers personal subjects as well, such as the panic attacks he began experiencing on stage, as well as things like performing with no audience throughout he show (in previous specials, Bo's always had a rough time with his audience, one of his shows he states "if you can live without an audience, you should do it." Here, we see him clamoring to create to distract himself from reality (at one point, speaking to the camera, he acknowledges this, stating if he finishes the special, he has to go back to living life, so he'll just never finish the special so he can forever remain distracted from reality), and throughout the performance he uses audience noise at various points, culminating in an incredibly personal performance in "All Eyes on Me," at one point grabbing a camera he's using and swinging it around the room with him to simulate the audience's view.

All of this is to say, absolutely watch this. At 90 minutes, it's fantastic, and I've barely scratched the surface here (I have trouble determining if my favorite song is That Funny Feeling, All Eyes on Me, or one I haven't even mentioned here, "Welcome to the Internet" which is FANTASTIC).



5/5
Title: Re: The Movies Thread
Post by: Crewe on June 14, 2021, 05:13:46 PM
Might just do that.
You know, Ive always bee cynical when celebrities (as I see it) complain.
My first thought is always, you have a fuck ton of money, and never ever ever have to worry about making another mortgage payment the rest of your life. You have zero problems so shut the fuck up.

Through my own growth, albeit way late in life,  Im happy that while that sentiment still pops in to my head from time to time, it's less preveaant and less vicious. Instead, sprinkled more with understanding that any person can have real problems.

Ill have to add this to the list